Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!

2010-03-15 Thread mehma sarja
hadly hadened (Boston dialect) if Guido is not watching it.

Mehma
===

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Han Boetes h...@mijncomputer.nl wrote:

 Chris Bennett wrote:
  You people have no sense of where security really lies at!
  If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all!

 I simply put my servers into armored concrete. After that I dump
 them somewhere in the middle of the ocean where the level is at
 least 3 km. That's hardening sir!



 # Han



Re: VLAN across two (or more) different vlandevs?

2010-03-15 Thread silvershadow123
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:58:42 +0100
 Von: Timo Schoeler timo.schoe...@riscworks.net
 An: misc@openbsd.org
 CC: silvershadow...@gmx.de
 Betreff: Re: VLAN across two (or more) different vlandevs?

  On 2010-03-12, silvershadow...@gmx.de silvershadow...@gmx.de wrote:
  Simply put, I need vlan 123 on both vr0 and vr2 (the Alix I use has
  three NICs, vr0 to vr2).
 
  the vlan device names (vlan123) do NOT need to be the same as the vlan
 ID.
 
  e.g.:
 
  hostname.vlan123
  inet 10.11.0.3 255.255.255.0 NONE vlan 123 vlandev vr0
 
  hostname.vlan1230
  inet 222.111.222.111 255.255.255.0 NONE vlan 123 vlandev vr2
 
  if this isn't what you want, describe in more detail what you're
  trying to do.
 
 Hi,
 
 maybe you already tried this, but named the files like this:
 
 /etc/hostname.vlan0123 (vlan 123, vr0)
 
 and
 
 /etc/hostname.vlan2123 (vlan 123, vr2)
 
 ?
 
 I ran into a similar phenomenon quite a while ago. After renaming the
 files so that '0' was not the first digit (e.g. .vlan1230 and .vlan1232,
 respectively), it worked as supposed.
 
 HTH,
 
 Timo

Hi!

Wow, thanks, that was exactly the problem I had!

After renaming it so that there's no 'zero' as the first number of the VLAN 
naming scheme, it works flawlessly.

However, AFAICS, the name of the file should be meaningless, shouldn't it? So, 
is that a 'bug', or intended behaviour?

Thanks again!

Donald
-- 
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http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02



Re: any web management gui for pf ?

2010-03-15 Thread Siju George
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM, PP;QQ P(P8P?P8QP8P=
chipits...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 is there any GUI (like pfsense) around which can be installed on a
 clean OpenBSD box (or even two CARP-connected boxes) for pf management
 ?
 I've found comixwall, but it seems to be dead already.


Is this what you ar e looking for?

http://www.fwbuilder.org/

I never used it and dont think I will ever use it. editing pf.conf is
just so easy :-)

--Siju



kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Donald Cooley
openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?

Regards,
Donald Cooley



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Anton Karpov
Sure.

Everybody is waiting for your patches :-)



2010/3/15 Donald Cooley dfcoo...@gmail.com

 openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
 old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?

 Regards,
 Donald Cooley



pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

I've just run into the following problem on a 4.6 box:

/etc/pf.conf (excerpt):


table rfc1918 const { 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 }
block out on $extif from rfc1918


# /sbin/pfctl -F rules -R -f pf.conf
rules cleared
pfctl: Must enable table loading for optimizations
# /sbin/pfctl  -s r
#


Imho, this interaction should be documented in the man page. One needs
to specify '-Tl', or else no rules will be loaded.


TIA!


Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Ludo Smissaert

Nick Holland wrote:
something is wrong. Any good computer, surely any server, should be 
able to run at 100% proc load indefinitely, regardless of the OS. 
Some laptops will have issues with this test, maybe some junky 
home-oriented machines might,


Yes that is true. My laptop started shutting down with a Terminal
overexposure message every time is on longer than an hour, a year after
I bought it. I run OpenBSD, but a friend of mine has exactly the same
laptop always running Windows and has the same problem. Need to keep a
book under it, there by giving the heat more change to escape. Now I can
still use it, longer than 30 minutes. To use it really on my lap, is
impossible, both my lap and the top will burn ;)


- ls



Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-15 11:47 AM, Ludo Smissaert wrote:
 ...  Now I can still use it, longer than 30 minutes. To use it really
 on my lap, is impossible, both my lap and the top will burn ;)

The ln2 reservoir may be empty.  Those dry out quickly even when the
machine is not in use.

Seriously, do you find a different using the cool running mode of APM?
Have apmd in your start up routines and then use apm -C to switch to
cool running.  It will also make a difference in how long you can work
on a single charge.

/Lars



Re: [NEW] sysutils/hotplug-diskmount

2010-03-15 Thread Markus Schatzl
Hi,

here's an approach I'm using for years now, giving me much more
than the usual granularity when using USB hotplug devices:

http://www.neuronenwerk.de/files/usb-hotplug.c
http://www.neuronenwerk.de/files/attach

All the best,
/Markus



urndis

2010-03-15 Thread giovanni
tested on amd64 w/ my HTC tattoo

[...]
umass0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 HTC Android Phone
rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2
umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus2 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd0 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: HTC, Android Phone, 0100 SCSI2
0/direct removable
sd0: drive offline
sd0 detached
scsibus2 detached
umass0 detached
urndis0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 HTC Android
Phone rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2
urndis0: address 82:f1:8d:ce:5a:cb
[...]

-- 
see ya,
giovanni



Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/15 Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net

 Hi,

 I've just run into the following problem on a 4.6 box:

 /etc/pf.conf (excerpt):

 
 table rfc1918 const { 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 }
 block out on $extif from rfc1918
 

 # /sbin/pfctl -F rules -R -f pf.conf
 rules cleared
 pfctl: Must enable table loading for optimizations
 # /sbin/pfctl  -s r
 #


 Imho, this interaction should be documented in the man page. One needs
 to specify '-Tl', or else no rules will be loaded.


 TIA!


 Kind regards,
 --Toni++


Hi,

for me it works good ... just don't use -R option

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/4/6/147502

-- 
Matteo Filippetto



Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Ludo Smissaert

Lars Nooden wrote:

The ln2 reservoir may be empty.  Those dry out quickly even when the
 machine is not in use.


Interesting, did not know that. Probably designed to run empty after two
years or so. Guess I can't have it refilled at the drugstore ;)

Seriously, do you find a different using the cool running mode of 
APM? Have apmd in your start up routines and then use apm -C to 
switch to


Haven't used it, but now I have it running, it seems to make a
difference indeed. Thanks for the tip.


Regards,
-ls



Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 12:22:35 +0100, matteo filippetto 
matteo.filippe...@gmail.com wrote:
 for me it works good ... just don't use -R option
 
 http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/4/6/147502

thanks for this link.

Not using -R is not too good, either, as on this particular box,
reloading everything results in a severance of all existing
connections. A clarification in the docs is imho the way to go. My
'nroff' is almost nonexistant, but here's a diff:


--- pfctl.8.origWed Jun 11 09:23:36 2008
+++ pfctl.8 Mon Mar 15 12:53:04 2010
@@ -354,7 +354,9 @@
 Only print errors and warnings.
 .It Fl R
 Load only the filter rules present in the rule file.
-Other rules and options are ignored.
+Other rules and options are ignored. If you are using
+tables, you need to also specify one of -T load or
+-o none.
 .It Fl r
 Perform reverse DNS lookups on states when displaying them.
 .It Fl s Ar modifier


Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Steve Shockley

On 3/15/2010 5:47 AM, Ludo Smissaert wrote:

Yes that is true. My laptop started shutting down with a Terminal
overexposure message every time is on longer than an hour, a year after
I bought it. I run OpenBSD, but a friend of mine has exactly the same
laptop always running Windows and has the same problem. Need to keep a
book under it, there by giving the heat more change to escape. Now I can
still use it, longer than 30 minutes. To use it really on my lap, is
impossible, both my lap and the top will burn ;)


If you know how to disassemble laptops, open the thing up and remove the 
dust from the radiator on the heat pipe.  If you don't know how to 
disassemble laptops (or don't care to) blow some compressed air through 
in the opposite direction of the air flow.


If you do take it apart, make sure you have some heatsink grease 
on-hand, as the factory stuff may look (and function) like dried 
toothpaste.  Don't spend extra on special grease, it doesn't really 
make a difference.




Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:02:50AM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote:
 If you do take it apart, make sure you have some heatsink grease  
 on-hand, as the factory stuff may look (and function) like dried  
 toothpaste.  Don't spend extra on special grease, it doesn't really  
 make a difference.

Laptops often have thermal pads, which can't be replaced with thermal
paste. Better not remove it unless you know what you're doing. The pad
is nearly impossible to re-use, dust will stick to it and it'll be
unusable.

Snake oil thermal pastes are just a rip-off, though.



Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:54:09PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
 
 Not using -R is not too good, either, as on this particular box,
 reloading everything results in a severance of all existing
 connections. A clarification in the docs is imho the way to go. My
 'nroff' is almost nonexistant, but here's a diff:
 
 
 --- pfctl.8.orig  Wed Jun 11 09:23:36 2008
 +++ pfctl.8   Mon Mar 15 12:53:04 2010
 @@ -354,7 +354,9 @@
  Only print errors and warnings.
  .It Fl R
  Load only the filter rules present in the rule file.
 -Other rules and options are ignored.
 +Other rules and options are ignored. If you are using
 +tables, you need to also specify one of -T load or
 +-o none.
  .It Fl r
  Perform reverse DNS lookups on states when displaying them.
  .It Fl s Ar modifier
 

doesn;t Other rules and options are ignored. already cover this?
furthermore, since -T has a load command, should we really expect -R to
load tables?

i don;t see that it needs to be more explicit.

jmc



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Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/15 Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net


 Hi,

 On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 12:22:35 +0100, matteo filippetto 
 matteo.filippe...@gmail.com wrote:
  for me it works good ... just don't use -R option
 
  http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/4/6/147502

 thanks for this link.

 Not using -R is not too good, either, as on this particular box,
 reloading everything results in a severance of all existing
 connections. A clarification in the docs is imho the way to go. My
 'nroff' is almost nonexistant, but here's a diff:


 --- pfctl.8.origWed Jun 11 09:23:36 2008
 +++ pfctl.8 Mon Mar 15 12:53:04 2010
 @@ -354,7 +354,9 @@
  Only print errors and warnings.
  .It Fl R
  Load only the filter rules present in the rule file.
 -Other rules and options are ignored.
 +Other rules and options are ignored. If you are using
 +tables, you need to also specify one of -T load or
 +-o none.
  .It Fl r
  Perform reverse DNS lookups on states when displaying them.
  .It Fl s Ar modifier


 Kind regards,
 --Toni++


Hi Toni,

I find this

Starting in OpenBSD 4.2, the default is basic. See
pf.conf(5)http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pf.confsektion=5manpath=OpenBSD+4.6for
a more complete description. 

on faq (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/options.html) and also in the man
pages

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pf.confsektion=5manpath=OpenBSD+4.6

Best regards
-- 
Matteo Filippetto



Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Brian Shackelford
We are a service company and have removed many heatsinks that had
thermal pads and re-applied using thermal grease (of course this is
after very carefully removing the thermal pad with plastic scraper and
alcohol) and have never had one come back to us with a thermal issue
again.  Many times the system even runs cooler according to our clients
than when they first got it - although that could just be perception.

Of course - it is your system - use your judgement and do what you feel
best.  Again we have done this many times and we warrant our work and
have not had one come back yet.

As to the type - I have not seen a tremendous difference in the high
end vs. regular brands on the market.

- Good Luck

-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf
Of Jussi Peltola
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:12 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:02:50AM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote:
 If you do take it apart, make sure you have some heatsink grease
 on-hand, as the factory stuff may look (and function) like dried
 toothpaste.  Don't spend extra on special grease, it doesn't really

 make a difference.

Laptops often have thermal pads, which can't be replaced with thermal
paste. Better not remove it unless you know what you're doing. The pad
is nearly impossible to re-use, dust will stick to it and it'll be
unusable.

Snake oil thermal pastes are just a rip-off, though.



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote:
 openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
 old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?
 
 Regards,
 Donald Cooley

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develw=2r=1s=openbsdq=b
KDE doesn't give a fuck about OpenBSD, so why should we?



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Tobias Ulmer wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote:
  openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
  old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?
  
  Regards,
  Donald Cooley
 
 http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develw=2r=1s=openbsdq=b
 KDE doesn't give a fuck about OpenBSD, so why should we?

Actually, KDE only cares about Linux.

-- 
Antoine



Re: VLAN across two (or more) different vlandevs?

2010-03-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
the filename must incorporate a valid device name, vlan0123 is
not permitted (vlan0 is ok, otherwise the number must start with
digit 1-9).

On 2010-03-15, silvershadow...@gmx.de silvershadow...@gmx.de wrote:
  Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:58:42 +0100
 Von: Timo Schoeler timo.schoe...@riscworks.net
 An: misc@openbsd.org
 CC: silvershadow...@gmx.de
 Betreff: Re: VLAN across two (or more) different vlandevs?

  On 2010-03-12, silvershadow...@gmx.de silvershadow...@gmx.de wrote:
  Simply put, I need vlan 123 on both vr0 and vr2 (the Alix I use has
  three NICs, vr0 to vr2).
 
  the vlan device names (vlan123) do NOT need to be the same as the vlan
 ID.
 
  e.g.:
 
  hostname.vlan123
  inet 10.11.0.3 255.255.255.0 NONE vlan 123 vlandev vr0
 
  hostname.vlan1230
  inet 222.111.222.111 255.255.255.0 NONE vlan 123 vlandev vr2
 
  if this isn't what you want, describe in more detail what you're
  trying to do.
 
 Hi,
 
 maybe you already tried this, but named the files like this:
 
 /etc/hostname.vlan0123 (vlan 123, vr0)
 
 and
 
 /etc/hostname.vlan2123 (vlan 123, vr2)
 
 ?
 
 I ran into a similar phenomenon quite a while ago. After renaming the
 files so that '0' was not the first digit (e.g. .vlan1230 and .vlan1232,
 respectively), it worked as supposed.
 
 HTH,
 
 Timo

 Hi!

 Wow, thanks, that was exactly the problem I had!

 After renaming it so that there's no 'zero' as the first number of the VLAN 
 naming scheme, it works flawlessly.

 However, AFAICS, the name of the file should be meaningless, shouldn't it? 
 So, is that a 'bug', or intended behaviour?

 Thanks again!

 Donald



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Brad Tilley
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:27 +0100, Antoine Jacoutot
ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote:
   openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
   old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?
   
   Regards,
   Donald Cooley
  
  http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develw=2r=1s=openbsdq=b
  KDE doesn't give a fuck about OpenBSD, so why should we?
 
 Actually, KDE only cares about Linux.

The isfinite() issue? That's C99 and POSIX stuff, right? Or are you guys
talking about something else? OpenBSD does have a log2() (unlike FreeBSD
7.x) even though you can get there by doing log()/log(2). 

Brad

 -- 
 Antoine



Re: Problems with Carp, Multi-WAN and pf syntax.

2010-03-15 Thread Marcus Mülbüsch

Stuart Henderson schrieb:


you're probably looking for reply-to, something along these lines:

pass in quick on gif1 inet to (gif1) reply-to 10.33@gif1
pass in quick on pppoe0 inet to (pppoe0) reply-to 0.0@pppoe0


   Yes I was.

   Except that the syntax was not exactly clear to me if you want a 
packet both to redirect-to an internal interface and then reply-to an 
external interface.


   Now I found out that the following does work:

# Redirect WWW traffic
pass in log quick on $if_wan1 inet proto tcp from any to any \
reply-to ( $if_wan1 $gw_wan1 ) rdr-to $srv_www round-robin

(And similar lines for the other interfaces)

My only problem is that the rule resolves to:

 pass in log quick on em0 inet proto tcp from any to any flags S/SA 
keep state reply-to ip@em0


if shown with pfctl -sr

In fact pfctl -sr does not show a single redirection, nor does it show 
that it does redirect to several servers in a round-robin-manner; though 
obviously it does.


While I'm not perfectly happy with that, at least I'm now in a state of 
works for me.


Thank you all.

Marcus



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Brad Tilley
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:56 -0400, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com
wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:27 +0100, Antoine Jacoutot
 ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote:
  On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
  
   On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote:
openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?

Regards,
Donald Cooley
   
   http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develw=2r=1s=openbsdq=b
   KDE doesn't give a fuck about OpenBSD, so why should we?
  
  Actually, KDE only cares about Linux.
 
 The isfinite() issue? That's C99 and POSIX stuff, right? Or are you guys
 talking about something else? OpenBSD does have a log2() (unlike FreeBSD
 7.x) even though you can get there by doing log()/log(2). 
 
 Brad

Never mind. I did not realize that list was a result of a search for
OpenBSD. Duh.



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Brad Tilley wrote:
  Actually, KDE only cares about Linux.
 
 The isfinite() issue? That's C99 and POSIX stuff, right? Or are you guys
 talking about something else? OpenBSD does have a log2() (unlike FreeBSD
 7.x) even though you can get there by doing log()/log(2). 

I'm not saying KDE is only for Linux, I'm saying KDE only cares for it 
(at least this is how it looks like).

-- 
Antoine



bad clock caused reboot?

2010-03-15 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis

Strange thing today, one of my old OpenBSD did a reboot.

If it was a hard reset (ie power problem) I wouldn't have a
wtmp record right?

# last
root  ttyp0client.hostMon Mar 15 16:47   still logged in
root  ttyp0client.hostMon Mar 15 16:26 - 16:27  (00:00)
reboot~ Mon Mar 15 09:46

wtmp begins Mon Mar 15 09:46 2010


Mar 15 07:54:12 server ntpd[5706]: adjusting local clock by 0.061002s
Mar 15 08:44:43 server ntpd[3592]: reply from 10.0.0.1: not synced 
(alarm), next query 3299s

Mar 15 09:46:03 server syslogd: start
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd:   Processor Machine Check (670), Code 0x92
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd: [ using 617920 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd: consinit: not using prom console
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd:   The Regents of the University of 
California.  All rights reserved.
Mar 15 09:46:03 server /bsd: Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights 
reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: Copyright (c) 1995-2009 OpenBSD. All rights 
reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: OpenBSD 4.6-stable (GENERIC) #3: Thu Nov 26 
14:54:22 EET 2009
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: 
r...@server:/usr/src/sys/arch/alpha/compile/GENERIC

Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: AlphaServer 400 4/233, 233MHz
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: 8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: real mem = 67108864 (64MB)
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: rsvd mem = 2048000 (1MB)
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: avail mem = 55369728 (52MB)
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: mainbus0 at root
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: cpu0 at mainbus0: ID 0 (primary), 21064A-0 
(unknown minor type 0)
Mar 15 09:46:04 server /bsd: apecs0 at mainbus0: DECchip 21071 Core 
Logic chipset


bla bla

Mar 15 09:46:05 server /bsd: WARNING: / was not properly unmounted
Mar 15 09:46:05 server /bsd: WARNING: clock gained 26 days -- CHECK AND 
RESET THE DATE!

Mar 15 09:51:20 server ntpd[6080]: 0 out of 1 peers valid
Mar 15 09:51:20 server ntpd[6080]: bad peer 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)
Mar 15 09:51:40 server ntpd[6080]: peer 10.0.0.1 now valid
Mar 15 09:52:33 server ntpd[29796]: adjusting local clock by -55.558227s
Mar 15 09:55:14 server ntpd[29796]: adjusting local clock by -54.760153s
Mar 15 12:50:56 server ntpd[29796]: adjusting local clock by -1.665123s
Mar 15 12:53:33 server ntpd[29796]: adjusting local clock by -0.879955s
Mar 15 12:56:49 server ntpd[6080]: clock is now synced


ideas?

Giannis



wireless iwi

2010-03-15 Thread oscar camillett
hello;

 When the system starts in openbsd 4.6, wireless device (iwi0) say:
iwi0.sleep

 after login, if I do :

 #ifconfig iwi0 scan

[ here iwi0 wakes up, works properly and it has found wireless networks]

Then :

#sh /etc/netstart iwi0

 [ Everything works properly after that. ]


Seems like the system doesnt start the device itself, if I dont perform
some scan or something.

thanks



spurious need to frag messages

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

one of my OpenBSD 4.6 boxen starts sending out need to fragment
messages to other hosts, w/o me seeing the reason.

# pfctl -s a |grep mss
# ifconfig|grep mtu|grep -v 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 33152
enc0: flags=41UP,RUNNING mtu 1536
pflog0: flags=141UP,RUNNING,PROMISC mtu 33152
#

And that's it...

IOW: There are only physical interfaces with an MTU of 1500 bytes
present, and there are no mss-meddling packet filter rules present.
Nevertheless, the machine started to send out random fragmentation
messages to ever more hosts around the internet, resulting in more and
more websites becoming inaccessible.

Sample message from tcpdump:

19:03:59.805030 1.2.3.4  5.6.7.8: icmp: 1.2.3.20 unreachable - need to frag 
(mtu 1420) for 5.6.7.8.80  1.2.3.20.59495: 2079874237 [|tcp] (DF) (ttl 243, id 
22121, len 1500) (ttl 255, id 23060, len 56)


The machine in question serves as a firewall, and it can (did) happen
that eg. one machine in the DMZ can access a certain foreign host,
while some other can't access the same foreign host. The only
consistency to be observed is that connectivity gradually deteriorates,
so that eventually, no machine in the DMZ can access a certain host,
while the number of inaccessible foreign hosts steadily increases.

The machine runs OpenBSD 4.6-stable/amd64.

What gives?


Kind regards,
--Toni++



NFS problems w/ diskless client

2010-03-15 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
Hi all,

(2nd try - the first message didn't make it to the list, apparently)

I'm currently trying to get one of my SGI Indys to run as a diskless
music player. I'm using Debian Linux (Lenny) for that and the Indy is
supposed to be booting diskless off my OpenBSD file server (i.e. NFS
root file system).

After having figured out all the necessary parts (dhcpd set-up, tftpd
set-up, nfs set-up) I've got the Indy to boot - it gets its IP address,
finds its kernel via tftp and starts booting. However, as soon as it
starts doing something on its NFS root file system, I get tons of
server not responding, still trying messages on the Indy. After a long
time, the Indy will finally succeed in booting, but any further activity
on the root filesystem generates more errors.

On the file server, I cannot find any errors in the log files. However,
when the Indy is doing something, I can see the load going up without
any program in particular using CPU (what's that - interrupts?). At one
point it got that bad that the server hung completely and I was forced
to reboot. That server is running OpenBSD 4.5.

I've also noticed that things get better when I remount the nfsroot
on the Indy with an explicit vers=3 (I think I read somewhere that the
default is NFSv2 when booting it that way) - after the remount, the
errors stop.

To investigate this further, I've set up a test server for the tftp and
nfsroot (dhcp is still done by the main server) running OpenBSD 4.6. I
did a basic install and all I configured was tftp and nfsd (no pf or any
other extras). Same result: Any activity on the Indy results in loads of
server not responding NFS errors and everything is very, very slow.
tcpdump on the connection reveals loads of this:
00:23:51.589956 00:04:75:98:2b:9d 08:00:69:09:88:d3 0800 1514:
192.168.1.2.2049  192.168.1.82.940: xid 0x0 reply ERR 1448 (DF) (ttl
64, id 33443, len 1500)
(.2 being the server and .82 the Indy) - but that doesn't tell me
much...

As I remembered having NFS trouble with 4.5 before (after I upgraded
the main server from 4.2), I installed OpenBSD 4.2 on the test server.
Same configuration (just tftp and nfsd) - and presto, the Indy boots
absolutely fine - no problems at all.

Apparently, something in NFS has changed between 4.2 and 4.5 (and
higher) - and I just cannot figure out what... Hence, I have no idea
what I would need to change nor what to investigate further. I've been
over the release notes and the only NFS related change that I noticed
was the addition of rpc.statd in 4.4 - could this have anything to do
with the problems I'm seeing?

Any hints would be much appreciated - especially RTFM pointers and/or
ideas for further investigaiton...

Thanks in advance,

Thomas

Server config:

/etc/exports:
/export/nfs -alldirs -maproot=root -network=192.168.1.64 -mask=255.255.255.192

/etc/rc.conf.local:
nfs_server=YES  # see sysctl.conf for nfs client configuration
portmap=YES # Note: inetd(8) rpc services need portmap too
lockd=YES


dmesg of the test server (OpenBSD 4.6):
OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #58: Thu Jul  9 21:24:42 MDT 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 536178688 (511MB)
avail mem = 509644800 (486MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 11/14/00, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfda74,
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0ea0 (56 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version EA81510A.86A.0040.P09.0011141019
date 11/14/2000
bios0: Intel Corporation D815EEA
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf2f70/224 (12 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev
0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000 0xcb000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Host rev 0x02
intelagp0 at pchb0
agp0 at intelagp0: aperture at 0xf800, size 0x240
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82815 AGP rev 0x02
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA Quadro rev 0x10
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0x02
pci2 at ppb1 bus 1
xl0 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 9,
address 00:04:75:98:2b:9d
exphy0 at xl0 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x02: 24-bit
timer at 3579545Hz
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x02: DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Maxtor 32049H3
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 13:04:04 +, Jason McIntyre j...@kerhand.co.uk wrote:
 doesn;t Other rules and options are ignored. already cover this?

may be. But then, you are possibly only too deeply entrenched in this
stuff to see the problem.

 furthermore, since -T has a load command, should we really expect -R to
 load tables?

Should it really need to? My guess was that tables would usually have
been loaded already when one goes to selectively reloads the rules, and
either of spelling out that they need to be loaded explicitly, stating
that, by default, the already-loaded tables are being used, or that
they are being ignored, or that the whole command fails would imho be a
good thing.

Ok. I go out on a limb and say that explicit is better than implicit,
in a lot of cases, and would welcome the short explanation OR the
modification of the command to also load tables (which would require
amending the man page, too).

I admit that I was unaware of the rule optimizer until it bit me into
my bottom half. I mean, I usually don't care, from a user perspective,
whether there is something optimizing my stuff, and consider this
kind of breakage as a (an almost) hidden gotcha.

An optimizer (or any other such device) which is on by default and
claims to not change semantics, should imho be transparent to the user,
but this one isn't. If you have other uses of disabling the optimizer
except for debugging pf, I'd really like to hear.


-- 
Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:19:41PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote:
  openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years
  old.  are there any future plans to update kde4?
  
  Regards,
  Donald Cooley
 
 http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develw=2r=1s=openbsdq=b
 KDE doesn't give a fuck about OpenBSD, so why should we?

You're totally mistaken.

KDE cares about the BSDs, and they're very much no-nonsense people.
I had absolutely no difficulty getting an account with them, nor with
folding back portable patches I had to make things work on OpenBSD.

The main reason we're behind for kde4 is that it's mostly impossible
to compile kde4 with gcc3, so there is some upheaval there.

Also the fact that back when I ported kde 4.0, it was not interesting
at all, especially compared to 3.5.10.

Other issues have happened since then. It shouldn't be that hard to get
kde4 to work, once you get past the gcc4 issue (and port cmake, but
apparently 2.8.0 is nicer).



Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Marc Espie wrote:
 You're totally mistaken.
 
 KDE cares about the BSDs, and they're very much no-nonsense people.
 I had absolutely no difficulty getting an account with them, nor with
 folding back portable patches I had to make things work on OpenBSD.
 
 The main reason we're behind for kde4 is that it's mostly impossible
 to compile kde4 with gcc3, so there is some upheaval there.
 
 Also the fact that back when I ported kde 4.0, it was not interesting
 at all, especially compared to 3.5.10.
 
 Other issues have happened since then. It shouldn't be that hard to get
 kde4 to work, once you get past the gcc4 issue (and port cmake, but
 apparently 2.8.0 is nicer).

Of course not having HAL doesn't help.

-- 
Antoine



axe(4) USB Adapter detected, but not working.

2010-03-15 Thread Alexandru Diaconu
Hi,

The adapter in question is a LevelOne USB-0201 which, AFAIK, uses the ASIX
AX88178 chipset. When I plug in the UTP cable, its status doesn't change,
it remains set to no carrier as if nothing happened (yes, the other end
of the cable is plugged in.)

I get the same behavior on OpenBSD 4.6, OpenBSD 4.6-STABLE and on the
latest snapshot. However, it worked without a hitch on FreeBSD 8 (using
the 'ue' pseudo-device -- there were no man pages for 'ue'.)

Currently running the latest snapshot on an ASUS EEEBOX B202.

$ uname -a
OpenBSD localhost 4.7 GENERIC.MP#447 i386

ifconfig output: http://pastie.org/870996
dmesg output: http://pastie.org/870992

Any ideas?



Re: mismatch output net-snmp -current

2010-03-15 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 17Apr2009 07:48, uno83 johan.unos...@gmail.com wrote:
| Agung T. Apriyanto-2 wrote:
|  i found mismatch output from snmpwalk in -current net-snmp, sample bellow
|  
|  r...@cadangan[patches]# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost
|  .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.20.1.2
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.0.1 = INTEGER: 1
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.66.1 = INTEGER: 5
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.67.1 = INTEGER: 6
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.68.1 = INTEGER: 7
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.69.1 = INTEGER: 8
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.58.145.172.241 = INTEGER: 2
|  IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.127.0.0.1 = INTEGER: 4
|  
|  r...@cadangan[patches]# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost
|  .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3
|  IF-MIB::ifType.1 = INTEGER: softwareLoopback(24)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.2 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.3 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.4 = INTEGER: 244
|  IF-MIB::ifType.5 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.6 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.7 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.8 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6)
|  IF-MIB::ifType.9 = INTEGER: 245
|  
|  interface index 5,6,7,8 have the right ip, but there's a mismatch at
|  index 1, 2 and 4 of IP-MIB.
|  
|  any of you have the same problems ?
| 
| We are seeing the same problem.

Me too, using net-snmp on OpenBSD 4.5.

How is the base OS snmpd in 4.5? It was insufficient back on 4.3 and I
ended up using net-snmp, but we recently added another NIC to the box
and now net-snmp reports no interfaces at all:-(

Am trying today to upgrade (or re-install) to 4.5 on this box to match our
working equivalent box (redundant pair of machine with staggered install
times, hence the mismatch), but of course the AMD64 install CD doesn't boot
:-(

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743



Re: axe(4) USB Adapter detected, but not working.

2010-03-15 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Mon, March 15, 2010 18:33, Alexandru Diaconu wrote:
 Hi,

 The adapter in question is a LevelOne USB-0201 which, AFAIK, uses the ASIX
 AX88178 chipset. When I plug in the UTP cable, its status doesn't change,
 it remains set to no carrier as if nothing happened (yes, the other end
 of the cable is plugged in.)

 I get the same behavior on OpenBSD 4.6, OpenBSD 4.6-STABLE and on the
 latest snapshot. However, it worked without a hitch on FreeBSD 8 (using
 the 'ue' pseudo-device -- there were no man pages for 'ue'.)

freebsd related. the ue loads also axe. can read axe man page.

matheus

 Currently running the latest snapshot on an ASUS EEEBOX B202.

 $ uname -a
 OpenBSD localhost 4.7 GENERIC.MP#447 i386

 ifconfig output: http://pastie.org/870996
 dmesg output: http://pastie.org/870992

 Any ideas?




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Re: bad clock caused reboot?

2010-03-15 Thread Nick Holland
Kapetanakis Giannis wrote:
 Strange thing today, one of my old OpenBSD did a reboot.
 
 If it was a hard reset (ie power problem) I wouldn't have a
 wtmp record right?
 
 # last
 root  ttyp0client.hostMon Mar 15 16:47   still logged in
 root  ttyp0client.hostMon Mar 15 16:26 - 16:27  (00:00)
 reboot~ Mon Mar 15 09:46
 
 wtmp begins Mon Mar 15 09:46 2010

nope.  Just pulled the plug out of a machine here to verify that, in
fact. :)

That just means the system came up, not that it went down formally for
a reboot...
...
 Mar 15 09:46:05 server /bsd: WARNING: / was not properly unmounted

and again, substantial evidence that the system went down hard and
unexpected, but obviously came back up on its own.

Nick.



Re: axe(4) USB Adapter detected, but not working.

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:33:54PM +0200, Alexandru Diaconu wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The adapter in question is a LevelOne USB-0201 which, AFAIK, uses the ASIX
 AX88178 chipset. When I plug in the UTP cable, its status doesn't change,
 it remains set to no carrier as if nothing happened (yes, the other end
 of the cable is plugged in.)
 
 I get the same behavior on OpenBSD 4.6, OpenBSD 4.6-STABLE and on the
 latest snapshot. However, it worked without a hitch on FreeBSD 8 (using
 the 'ue' pseudo-device -- there were no man pages for 'ue'.)
 
 Currently running the latest snapshot on an ASUS EEEBOX B202.
 
 $ uname -a
 OpenBSD localhost 4.7 GENERIC.MP#447 i386
 
 ifconfig output: http://pastie.org/870996
 dmesg output: http://pastie.org/870992
 
 Any ideas?

yes, we need some variation on
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/axe.88178.patch4
so it doesn't pickup the ghost phy.



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How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-15 Thread Dave Anderson
I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the
environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work'
on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, from a browser, or
embedded in some other program or script.  Unfortunatly there doesn't
seem to be any really good way to do this when a system is its own
firewall; the best tool I've found so far is 'ftpsesame', which
acknowledges a couple of significant problems (there's no guarantee that
the PF rules changes it makes will happen in time, and inspecting
packets 'on the fly' without a full TCP stack is errorprone).

I'd expect this to be a rather common desire; is there a good solution
that I've missed?  Suggestions are very welcome.

I do notice that 4.7 has a new divert-to-userland ability that looks
like it could be used to solve this problem properly, by intercepting
outbound and inbound control-connection packets on the egress interface.
If I read the documentation correctly, ftp-proxy has not (yet) been
updated to work this way; is anyone known to be planning to do this?

Thanks,

Dave

-- 
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d...@daveanderson.com



installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?

2010-03-15 Thread Cameron Simpson
I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro
not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't
boot off a USB device at all.

One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then
using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the
i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot
sector)?

Has anyone done this?
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Re: stinking patches

2010-03-15 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:07:43AM -0700, Ted Roby wrote:
 Thanks to the hard work of Jacob Meuser I now have a functional patch
 which modifies the azalia driver for Macbook revision 3,1.
 
 This was my first crafted patch in conjunction with a developer.
 
 I sorted out my own ignorance in applying the patch. Once I switched
 to using -p1 instead of -p0 I had resounding success.
 
 Should I now post my functional patch to tech until it is placed in CVS?

no need, I've got the patches.  glad it finally worked for you :)

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