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GPIO crash with Alix 3D3 board

2010-10-30 Thread Peter Bako
I'm trying to get access to the three front LED's of my new ALIX3D3 (VGA
version, BIOS 2/11/2009-AMD-LX800-6A43EAM1C-00), using OpenBSD 4.8.  I have
been able to get the left and right LED's working, but the middle one is
causing problems.

Basically the problem is during startup, before the securelevel is raised
from 0 to 1, I have to activate the GPIO module for the LED's.  The commands
for the left and right LED's works just great, but when I execute the
command to activate the middle LED, it causes OpenBSD to just crash and shut
down.  To make it worse, it does not leave a stack dump, any messages in any
logs or even anything on screen, it just shuts down.  The commands in my
rc.securelevel file are:


/usr/sbin/gpioctl gpio0 6 set out iout led1
/usr/sbin/gpioctl gpio0 25 set out iout led2
/usr/sbin/gpioctl gpio0 27 set out iout led3


According to the 3D3 documentation, the three LED's are attached to pins 6,
25 and 27 respectively, and this backed up by other documentation I have
found on the subject. 

I get the crash/shutdown if I have this command in rc.securelevel, or if I
go into single user mode and enter that middle line by hand.

Anyone have any experience with this board and have had the same problem?

Thanks,

Peter



Re: Looks like my 4.8 CD is in the mail!

2010-10-30 Thread Bryan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 09:53, Cato Auestad  wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 22:52 -0500, Denny White wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:54:46AM +0200, Jasper Valentijn spoke thusly:
>> > 2010/10/20 Fred Crowson :
>> > > My OpenBSD 4.8 disks turned up in the post this morning :~)
>> > >
>> > > Awesome - thanks for another great release :~)
>> > >
>> > > Fred
>> >
>> > Mine arrived just minutes ago. From openbsdeurope to Holland. :)
>> >
>> > Thanks devs and others who have made it possible!
>> >
>> > Jasper.
>> >
>>
>> Flash! This just in! Biloxi, MS. Puffy has hit the beach, and
>> with a new t-shirt to boot. Semper securus! Oorah! ;)
>>
>>
>
> Just received my 4.8 diskset in Stavanger, Norway, my first one to date.
> Thanks to everyone who made it possible! Just waiting for the poster to
> arrive B :)
>
> http://imgur.com/xGgZA.jpg
>
> --
> |- Cato Auestad
> |- bleakgadfly
> |- 0x19ABF872
> |- www.openbsd.org
>
>

Got mine in Austin, TX, USA a few days ago... was on holiday in the EU
or would have said something earlier...



Re: Sun Ultra 40 boot failure with 4.8 current

2010-10-30 Thread Amit Kulkarni
Hi,

I have isolated my problem to ehci.c by brute force printfs. NB:
jakemsr@ is helping me out on this issue.

I thought how would I go about finding this bug? This is a USB
keyboard bug, this machine has no PS/2 just USB ports. As soon as it
hits that usb_allocmem, it drops me into ddb without a working
keyboard. jakemsr@ helped me out by mentioning to setup a sshd to get
access. I initially disabled uhub in UKC and did the kernel compiles.
Later on I found out that disabling ehci in UKC works better as
problem goes away and I get keyboard access on machine, in addition to
sshd access. NVidia EHCI has problems for all OS (NetBSD, FreeBSD,
Windows) but I am stuck here.

Ok but since the crash happens before filesystems checks or network is
started I can't get to the machine keyboard at all to trace the dump
in ddb. I compiled with makeoptions DEBUG="-g", I tried kgdb. No dice.
How to get the stack trace?

Finally it led to
http://www.daemon-systems.org/man/ddb.4.html
options DDB_COMMANDONENTER="trace;show registers"

So again I entered this in my GENERIC
options DDB_COMMANDONENTER="trace"
makeoptions DEBUG="-g"

but it doesn't show a stack trace at all when dropping into ddb. And I
ca't type anything during that time because the keyboard is
inoperative!

Does this kernel options work or is that page outdated? I didn't get a
complaint during kernel compile.

Ideally, how can I force a kernel dump with stacktrace and with
offending line number information displayed without doing anything in
ddb? I personally would always have it on in my GENERIC config.

Thanks

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Amit Kulkarni  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I managed to cvs update of 4.8 stable sources, do a rebuild of config (it
> needed mandoc and libc.so.57.0 which I grabbed from Oct 22 snapshot), did a
> build of 4.8 stable kernel, and booted. Please don't flame on incompatible
> libc & mandoc, I just wanted to see where it fails exactly. At least now it
> shows a ddb prompt when it fails instead of press any key to reboot. prompt
> doesn't accept any key press at all.
> I copied the exact message from screen, hoping it would catch something
> helpful to somebody.
> uhub2 at uhub0 port 7 "Standard Microsystems product 0x2502" rev 2.00/0.01
> addr2
> kernel: protection fault trap, code=0
> Stopped atusb_allocmem+0x83:   cmpq
%rbx,0(%rax)
> Thanks
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Amit Kulkarni  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to get a old Sun Ultra 40 AMD64 to work on OpenBSD (preferably
>> current). I have tried many different snapshots of 4.8 current (I will try
>> on the 4.8 stable later in a week or so!)
>> I copied bsd.rd from the Oct 22 snapshot as /nbsd.rd, went to the UKC to
>> set with verbose option but it scrolls too fast to see exactly what's the
>> problem. I don't have a floppy or serial console on this machine so can't
>> save the dmesg somewhere. I get a fatal protection fault in supervisor
mode,
>> press any key to reboot (it happens near the uhubN lines in the scrolling
>> dmesg around the Pentium MTRR line).
>> 4.7 installs fine, but X won't work as this machine has a NVIDIA Quadro FX
>> 380 (graphics card failed after 3 years), which is probably in 4.8 stable
>> according to this page (change in May 2010)
>>
>>
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/xenocara/driver/xf86-video-nv/src/nv_dr
iver.c
>> I have emailed the dmesg from 4.7. What can I do to get the dmesg from the
>> -current bsd.rd to help diagnose what's wrong or what changed?
>> Thanks for help



Re: something weird with perl in CVS?

2010-10-30 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Maurice Janssen  wrote:
> A few days ago, I extracted the src.tar.gz from the 4.8 CDROM and
> synchronized the src tree to -stable through CVS.  I expected to see
> about 5 files being changed, but to my surprise a lot (all?) files in
> src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/ were also updated.
> This seems weird, because as far as I know, no commits were done to CVS
> in the perl directory with a OPENBSD_4_8 tag and certainly not so many.
>
> I looked at a few files for the differences and until know I've seen only
> changes in the comments, for example:
> (src0/ is a clean copy from src.tar.gz from the CDROM, src/ is synced
> through CVS to OPENBSD_4_8)
...
> Does anybody know what has happened?

There was a late change in the keyword substitution mode for those
files.  That's a per-file mode (note that it's *not* per-revision
per-mode) and there are no email messages generated for them, just as
no messages generated for imports.


> I assume that my src tree (after
> syncing with CVS and therefore with all the 'new' files in
> gnu/usr.bin/perl) is still suitable for building 4.8-stable.  Is this
> assumption correct?

Yep, it's good.


Philip Guenther



Re: OT IPv6 Was: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Brad Tilley
On 10/30/2010 04:18 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:


> Lets hope the youtubes and facebooks go v6 so that they get of my v4
> lawn.

No need to hope:

$ dig  +short www.v6.facebook.com
2620:0:1cfe:face:b00c::3

Brad



Re: Short thank you and gratitude note for constant OpenBSD improvements/evolutions!

2010-10-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Daniel,

Daniel Ouellet wrote on Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:30:47PM -0400:

> No one SADLY really thank you

Actually, there were quite a few mails recently saying "thank you".

> YOU give us

We also do it for ourselves.  :)

But yes, publishing code and getting feedback from people using it
is necessary for making it better, and keeping good code to yourself
is stupid (excepting dirty quickhacks, of course).  Its usefulness
isn't diminished when others use it, too.

Besides, you can help to keep the project going
 * by buying CDs (remember, Theo is working full time on OpenBSD,
   and needs a salary, and without his dedication, all this would
   work much less smoothly, if at all),
 * by donating (remember, without donations, there is no way to
   get developers together for hackathons; many devs pay for their
   own travelling and hotel costs, but not all are able to do so),
 * and by sending patches (remeber, without people sending patches,
   we can't recruit new developers).

> your beliefs!

The groff case is not so much about beliefs as about practicability.
Did you ever try to write mdoc(7) manuals for groff, working around
the various bugs?  It was not fun.   Did you ever try to fix bugs in
groff?  I wasn't very successful, for sure, even though i spent some
time trying to read some chunks of that code.  Now we perhaps even
get a chance to install manual sources because mandoc(1) is fast
enough to format them on the fly, even on the slow architectures.
Let's see.

Simplicity, correctness, functionality and maintainability are key.
And having completely free code, of course.

Yours,
  Ingo

P.S.
The p2k10 hackathon in Budapest (hmm, in Pest, to be precise :)
was really nice.  Thanks to robert@ for a perfect organization!



Re: more about softraid

2010-10-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:28:21PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> Le Saturday 30 October 2010 15:22:32, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:18:42PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > > Le Saturday 30 October 2010 04:52:35, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:41:52PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > > > > > # bioctl -R sd0a sd2
> > > > >
> > > > > If I understand well the above command kicks off a rebuild on a
> > > > > replacement device. Few questions from my side ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to rebuild with another device for example sd0b or
> > > > > sd1a instead of sd0a ? (seems no if I understood properly)
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I got the question right, yes.  You can rebuild on any
> > > > appropriately sized chunk.
> > > >
> > > > > Is the same process as for initialization required for the rebuild ?
> > > > > e.g. # fdisk -iy sd0
> > > > > # printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E sd0
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > >
> > > Ok, to be more clear, say for example we set a softraid called sd2 with
> > > chuncks sd0a and sd1a in raid 1.
> > > sd0a becomes faulty/offline, I would like to use an appropriate chunk to
> > > relpace
> > > it, but say it is not designed sd0a but sd3a, what can we then do ? Could
> > > we rebuild on sd3a ?
> >
> > Lets say you have a raid 1 made out of 3 chunks; sd1a, sd2a and sd3a.
> > Now lets say sd2a breaks and you add a new drive sd4.  On that new drive
> > you create a d partition that is of the right size.  You could rebuild
> > the softraid volume with sd4d.
> >
> > I left out the drive shuffling that might (will) happen to simplify the
> > example.
> >
> > To prevent shuffling from biting you in the butt read up on the DUID
> > stuff that jsing wrote.  It is described in the mount(8) page.
> >
> > > Thanks & regards
> 
> Good, it works perfectly.
> 
> Another question,
> When I initiate a rebuild, is the operations done at creation needed ?
> 
> For example :
> 
> # fdisk -iy wd1
> # printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E wd1
> # bioctl -R /dev/wd1a sd0

yes but remember that this was just an example!  and this is really an
ugly trick to get a partition of type RAID.

fdisk is not required at all and should be used only when it makes
sense.  Having an fdisk partition (dos partition really) means you are
bound by the sizes initially invented in the 80s.  It only makes sense
to use if you have some multiboot thing.



Re: OT IPv6 Was: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:02:47AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> 
> SNIP
> >The US government mandates it and then when it gets to the people who
> >support it they use V4.  It is a beautiful thing.  Go committee design!
> >
> >Ask theo for his much smarter IPv5 idea.
> >
> 
> once upon a time the UG gov't mandated network gear had to support IPv6,
> now implementation is occurring.
> 
> whether you like it or not, IPv6 deployment is gaining strength.

I worked on more exception documents and other excuses than products
that would support it ;-)

Lets hope the youtubes and facebooks go v6 so that they get of my v4
lawn.



Re: Azalia "No Problem" but no Audio

2010-10-30 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:53:33PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:22:12AM -0200, Shazaum wrote:
> > well, with Linux I have no problem ...
> 
> linux support for realtek codecs alone is 5x as large as our
> driver for all of azalia.  likely they have some quirk for
> your specific bios/codec combo.

alsa has 2 different sets of quirks that match your bio/codec, one
is commented out.  so, when you say "Linux", what does that mean?
a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?  which version?  some distros
version?

it seems this is a laptop?  if so, are you not getting sound on the
speaker, or not getting sound on the output jack, or both?

> > I have done all sorts of changes in controls, and no sound effect
> > 'll find which way do I change the codec, thanks
> 
> have you tried -current yet?  it's not clear if you have or
> haven't.

still wondering about this ...

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something weird with perl in CVS?

2010-10-30 Thread Maurice Janssen
Hi,

A few days ago, I extracted the src.tar.gz from the 4.8 CDROM and
synchronized the src tree to -stable through CVS.  I expected to see
about 5 files being changed, but to my surprise a lot (all?) files in
src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/ were also updated.
This seems weird, because as far as I know, no commits were done to CVS
in the perl directory with a OPENBSD_4_8 tag and certainly not so many.

I looked at a few files for the differences and until know I've seen only
changes in the comments, for example:
(src0/ is a clean copy from src.tar.gz from the CDROM, src/ is synced
through CVS to OPENBSD_4_8)

$ diff -u src0/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/Makefile.SH 
src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/Makefile.SH
--- src0/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/Makefile.SH   Sat Oct 24 19:01:02 2009
+++ src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/Makefile.SHThu Oct 28 20:42:22 2010
@@ -27,12 +27,9 @@
 echo "Extracting x2p/Makefile (with variable substitutions)"
 rm -f Makefile
 cat >Makefile <

Re: more about softraid

2010-10-30 Thread Jean-Francois
Le Saturday 30 October 2010 15:22:32, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:18:42PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > Le Saturday 30 October 2010 04:52:35, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:41:52PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > > > > # bioctl -R sd0a sd2
> > > >
> > > > If I understand well the above command kicks off a rebuild on a
> > > > replacement device. Few questions from my side ...
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to rebuild with another device for example sd0b or
> > > > sd1a instead of sd0a ? (seems no if I understood properly)
> > >
> > > Assuming I got the question right, yes.  You can rebuild on any
> > > appropriately sized chunk.
> > >
> > > > Is the same process as for initialization required for the rebuild ?
> > > > e.g. # fdisk -iy sd0
> > > > # printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E sd0
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> >
> > Ok, to be more clear, say for example we set a softraid called sd2 with
> > chuncks sd0a and sd1a in raid 1.
> > sd0a becomes faulty/offline, I would like to use an appropriate chunk to
> > relpace
> > it, but say it is not designed sd0a but sd3a, what can we then do ? Could
> > we rebuild on sd3a ?
>
> Lets say you have a raid 1 made out of 3 chunks; sd1a, sd2a and sd3a.
> Now lets say sd2a breaks and you add a new drive sd4.  On that new drive
> you create a d partition that is of the right size.  You could rebuild
> the softraid volume with sd4d.
>
> I left out the drive shuffling that might (will) happen to simplify the
> example.
>
> To prevent shuffling from biting you in the butt read up on the DUID
> stuff that jsing wrote.  It is described in the mount(8) page.
>
> > Thanks & regards

Good, it works perfectly.

Another question,
When I initiate a rebuild, is the operations done at creation needed ?

For example :

# fdisk -iy wd1
# printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E wd1
# bioctl -R /dev/wd1a sd0



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Re: Installing OpenBSD 4.8 on an iMac

2010-10-30 Thread Guillaume Dualé

On 30/10/2010 15:34, Vijay Sankar wrote:

Hi,

I have a new iMac desktop (running OS X 10.6.4) purchased because of
iPhone/iPod/iPad stuff but i would like to use OpenBSD 4.8 on it.

Will using Boot Camp to set up a Windows partition and installing OpenBSD
there work? Or is rEFIt or some other approach? Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks very much,

Vijay


Vijay Sankar
vsan...@foretell.ca

   

Hi,
rEFIT works to boot OpenBSD.
On Mac think to resize your MacOS partition to make place for OpenBSD.
Guillaume.



Re: OT IPv6 Was: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 10:02:47 -0600 (MDT)
Diana Eichert  wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> 
> SNIP
> > The US government mandates it and then when it gets to the people who
> > support it they use V4.  It is a beautiful thing.  Go committee design!
> >
> > Ask theo for his much smarter IPv5 idea.
> >
> 
> once upon a time the UG gov't mandated network gear had to support IPv6,
> now implementation is occurring.
> 
> whether you like it or not, IPv6 deployment is gaining strength.
> 

Hopefully they'll free up some ipv4 addresses for us.



OT IPv6 Was: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Diana Eichert

On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Marco Peereboom wrote:

SNIP

The US government mandates it and then when it gets to the people who
support it they use V4.  It is a beautiful thing.  Go committee design!

Ask theo for his much smarter IPv5 idea.



once upon a time the UG gov't mandated network gear had to support IPv6,
now implementation is occurring.

whether you like it or not, IPv6 deployment is gaining strength.



Re: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:55:50 -0700
Sean Kamath  wrote:

> It's a bitch
> to code in sftp support to every application that expects to operate on a
> file.

That's why I suggested the windows program that uses sftp as a windows
share that I happened to stumble across, but didn't log the name as it's
for windows, if I ever need it I'll find it, but I doubt that will
happen.

The example given was for a medical image which I imagine you would
need the whole file for and would only be created from a single
patient. But your reasoning for locking and scaling is sound assuming
there isn't another better alternative out there.

>>We'd love to have delegations in NFSv4 because it would
>>significantly enhance the ability to locality-based locking/caching.

That is possibly the only real argument I've heard for nfsv4 so far over
nfs3 and sounds interesting.

It's not my job and the devils in the details. However, I would search
every place under the sun, before mixing nfs, especially nfs4 from the
sounds of it with samba and security, but then the same could be said
for windows or hosts with web browsers connected to the internet.
The amount of compromised medical, police and government data is
rediculous (ignoring when it's left on the train) and the security
targets a joke or ignored, scalability is no excuse, unless it is
decided to be more important than the security, which may be the case,
right or wrong as often real risks are not even considered or possibly
thought of especially by those that want to maximise profit or minimise
todays cost at the expense of the future which will be someone elses
problem. It is certainly a recurring theme across the world, atleast
everywhere I've seen and often a simple design change fixes almost
everything!



Installing OpenBSD 4.8 on an iMac

2010-10-30 Thread Vijay Sankar
Hi,

I have a new iMac desktop (running OS X 10.6.4) purchased because of
iPhone/iPod/iPad stuff but i would like to use OpenBSD 4.8 on it.

Will using Boot Camp to set up a Windows partition and installing OpenBSD
there work? Or is rEFIt or some other approach? Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks very much,

Vijay


Vijay Sankar
vsan...@foretell.ca



Re: more about softraid

2010-10-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:18:42PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> Le Saturday 30 October 2010 04:52:35, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:41:52PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > > > # bioctl -R sd0a sd2
> > >
> > > If I understand well the above command kicks off a rebuild on a
> > > replacement device. Few questions from my side ...
> > >
> > > Is it possible to rebuild with another device for example sd0b or sd1a
> > > instead of sd0a ? (seems no if I understood properly)
> >
> > Assuming I got the question right, yes.  You can rebuild on any
> > appropriately sized chunk.
> >
> > > Is the same process as for initialization required for the rebuild ? e.g.
> > > # fdisk -iy sd0
> > > # printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E sd0
> > >
> > > Regards
> 
> Ok, to be more clear, say for example we set a softraid called sd2 with
> chuncks sd0a and sd1a in raid 1.
> sd0a becomes faulty/offline, I would like to use an appropriate chunk to
> relpace
> it, but say it is not designed sd0a but sd3a, what can we then do ? Could we
> rebuild on sd3a ?

Lets say you have a raid 1 made out of 3 chunks; sd1a, sd2a and sd3a.
Now lets say sd2a breaks and you add a new drive sd4.  On that new drive
you create a d partition that is of the right size.  You could rebuild
the softraid volume with sd4d.

I left out the drive shuffling that might (will) happen to simplify the
example.

To prevent shuffling from biting you in the butt read up on the DUID
stuff that jsing wrote.  It is described in the mount(8) page.

> 
> Thanks & regards



Re: nfsv4?

2010-10-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:55:50PM -0700, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2010, at 7:43 AM, James A. Peltier wrote:
> > As for SFTP or any other method that would duplicate data, I have already
> discussed why it is not a possibility.  SSHFS *was and still is* a possibility
> but it was ruled out because of our HPC needs.
> 
> I run something that could be considered (and is often referred to as) an HPC
> cluster.  We leverage NFS heavily.  We'd melt our filers if they weren't
> front-ended by NFS caches.
> 
> You can't seek() using sftp.  You can't lock a file using sftp. It's a bitch
> to code in sftp support to every application that expects to operate on a
> file. And it scales for shit: Suck down a file and wait for the whole thing?
> Run sshfs on the cluster to a centralized sshfs-based fileserver?  I don't
> think so.
> 
> We are using NFSv3.  We'd love to have delegations in NFSv4 because it would
> significantly enhance the ability to locality-based locking/caching.
> 
> Thousands of machines sharing the same multi-petabyte dataset won't work with
> sftp.  Or sshfs.
> 
> My point is not to suggest what the OpenBSD developers should or should not
> implement.  That is there decision.  But it annoys me that people think sftp
> (or any other non-block-based file transfer mechanism) is a replacement for
> NFS.  It's not.
> 
> And it's not to suggest NFSv4 is the bees knees.  Some people may need/want
> it.  Some may not.

I don't think there is a debate for the need of a multi-arch networked
filesystem.  It is a pity there isn't anything good enough out there.
It is either hacky or crappy.  You can buy one and pay money out the
butt and it won't work on most arches to boot.  Now there is a fine open
source project that could be done NOT by committee but a dedicated
person who prefers functionality over bloat.

> 
> Sean
> 
> PS I can't believe I got sucked into this thread.

All your threads are belong to us!



4.8 Release party Amterdam

2010-10-30 Thread Floor Terra
OpenBSD 4.8 is really close and it's time for another release party. My
proposal:

Thursday November 4th
18:00 meet in front of cafC) de Deugniet to get something to eet.
20:00 back at de Deugniet and have some drinks

CafC) de Deugniet is located within 5 minutes walking from the Amsterdam
Central station.

I hope to see you there!

Floor



Re: more about softraid

2010-10-30 Thread Jean-Francois
Le Saturday 30 October 2010 04:52:35, Marco Peereboom a icrit :
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:41:52PM +0200, Jean-Francois wrote:
> > > # bioctl -R sd0a sd2
> >
> > If I understand well the above command kicks off a rebuild on a
> > replacement device. Few questions from my side ...
> >
> > Is it possible to rebuild with another device for example sd0b or sd1a
> > instead of sd0a ? (seems no if I understood properly)
>
> Assuming I got the question right, yes.  You can rebuild on any
> appropriately sized chunk.
>
> > Is the same process as for initialization required for the rebuild ? e.g.
> > # fdisk -iy sd0
> > # printf "a\n\n\n\nRAID\nw\nq\n\n" | disklabel -E sd0
> >
> > Regards

Ok, to be more clear, say for example we set a softraid called sd2 with
chuncks sd0a and sd1a in raid 1.
sd0a becomes faulty/offline, I would like to use an appropriate chunk to
relpace
it, but say it is not designed sd0a but sd3a, what can we then do ? Could we
rebuild on sd3a ?

Thanks & regards



Re: 4.8 arrival!

2010-10-30 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 05:36:00PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
> Chicago . . . THANKS!

Stockholm, sweden, yesterday (CET).

I especially appreciate the mount by UID feature and all the ACPI
improvements. And as always all the packaging artwork!

-- 

/ Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB



Re: openbsd fan needs help

2010-10-30 Thread Traian Ciobanu
IT Academy, Romania



openbsd fan needs help

2010-10-30 Thread Traian Ciobanu
Hello to all the OpenBSD community.
This is no spam, please read till the end.
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former USSR country. I managed to do everything by myself but now I need
some help and I am asking this from you. Yes I know I don't have the right
to ask anything for a community to which I don't give nothing back but I
don't know how else to do it. I need an sum of 2000$ for funding IT studies
and I am hoping that any person donating even 1$ can help me raise this
amount of money. In case you can not donate just post this to your facebook
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it. If you decide to help me just post this link http://goo.gl/KiTz to your
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