Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables

2010-11-11 Thread Ryan McBride
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:45:16PM +0100, Tor Houghton wrote:
 May I ask whether or not per user ownership (or permission to update) a
 table is/will be possible?
 
 I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
 addresses to a table.

You can look at sysutils/tabled in ports, which provides this
functionality (permissions would be controlled by the filesystem
permissions on the fifo)

I don't think we'll be making /dev/pf accessible by non-root processes
any time soon.



Upgrade a firewall

2010-11-11 Thread OpenBSD Geek
Hi,
I use OpenBSD 4.7-STABLE at work only for firewall(PF, isakmpd,ipsecctl).
Now i want to upgrade it to 4.8 RELEASE.
So, i done :
Boot on 4.8RELEASE CD, choose Upgrade at prompt.
Follow instructions, and finally reboot the box.
After migrate /etc and /var : sysmerge -s
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.8/i386/etc48.tgz
I'm wrong ?

Thanks for your replies.



Re: Upgrade a firewall

2010-11-11 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:00 AM, OpenBSD Geek open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 Hi,
 I use OpenBSD 4.7-STABLE at work only for firewall(PF, isakmpd,ipsecctl).
 Now i want to upgrade it to 4.8 RELEASE.
 So, i done :
 Boot on 4.8RELEASE CD, choose Upgrade at prompt.
 Follow instructions, and finally reboot the box.
 After migrate /etc and /var : sysmerge -s
 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.8/i386/etc48.tgz
 I'm wrong ?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade48.html


 Thanks for your replies.



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Re: [SOLVED] Re: OpenBSD 4.8 freezes on certain activities

2010-11-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-10, Micha?? Koc m...@prime.pl wrote:
 Hi All,

 migrating from re to em solved the network problem

With the re(4), does the system recover if you leave it for a couple of minutes?



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 12:11:51AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
 and a U5 at work that has been running an app for probably the last
 ten years with probably less than five hours total downtime (original
 disk.  I'm scared). 

In that case you were lucky to have a good version of the
motherboard... There is at least one revision where the capacitors go
bad - mostly those buffering the CPU, causing the machine to become
unstable. Of the 3 U5/U10 I've seen with that revision, 2 were already
bad...

Cheerio,

Thomas
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   You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!



Re: [SOLVED] Re: OpenBSD 4.8 freezes on certain activities

2010-11-11 Thread Michał Koc

Yes, it does.

regards
M.K.

W dniu 2010-11-11 10:53, Stuart Henderson pisze:

On 2010-11-10, Micha?? Kocm...@prime.pl  wrote:

Hi All,

migrating from re to em solved the network problem

With the re(4), does the system recover if you leave it for a couple of minutes?




Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables

2010-11-11 Thread Tor Houghton
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:32:27PM +0900, Ryan McBride wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:45:16PM +0100, Tor Houghton wrote:
  May I ask whether or not per user ownership (or permission to update) a
  table is/will be possible?
  
  I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
  addresses to a table.
 
 You can look at sysutils/tabled in ports, which provides this
 functionality (permissions would be controlled by the filesystem
 permissions on the fifo)
 
 I don't think we'll be making /dev/pf accessible by non-root processes
 any time soon.

This looks exactly like what I need.

Thank you!

Kind regards,

Tor



Re: Upgrade a firewall

2010-11-11 Thread Jiri B.
Your nick looks like joke with this kind of question :)


 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:00:57 +0400
 From: open...@e-solutions.re
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Upgrade a firewall

 Hi,
 I use OpenBSD 4.7-STABLE at work only for firewall(PF, isakmpd,ipsecctl).
 Now i want to upgrade it to 4.8 RELEASE.
 So, i done :
 Boot on 4.8RELEASE CD, choose Upgrade at prompt.
 Follow instructions, and finally reboot the box.
 After migrate /etc and /var : sysmerge -s
 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.8/i386/etc48.tgz
 I'm wrong ?

 Thanks for your replies.



Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-11 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Your precious input suggested me an idea and I decided to check with the old
xmodmap which kinda bindings I might have for those keys.I don't exactly
know if xmodmap output might be valid for CLI as well, but here's what I got
by running xmodmap -
Home --- ^[OH
End --- ^[OF

Now I tried to bind those results, but without success :( as the following
combinations work inside xterm, but *not* in CLI (kinda puzzling indeed, as
the same xmodmap - shows your same escape sequence for Del ^[[3~ which
also works in CLI):

bind '^[OH'=beginning-of-line
bind '^[OF'=end-of-line

SO... I explored your way (Ctrl-V) and got these results on CLI:

Ctrl-V+Home --- ^[[7~
Ctrl-V+End  --- ^[[8~

The immediate try with bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line led to an
effectively working Home, adding a tilde every keypress.
So I decided to copy your way for Del and to define ^[[7 as a prefix with
bind '^[[7'=prefix-1 as prefix-2 was already busy with Del; and then again
bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line; you know what??? IT WORKED!

Now the problem becomes End, as I also discovered that there's no such thing
as prefix-0, prefix-3, etc... just prefix-1 (now busy for Home) and prefix-2
(already booked for Del). So, in this long story these are the results:

Del: always working in CLI and xterm (using ^[[3~ and prefix-2 technique)
Home: working in CLI with ^[[7~ using prefix-1, but not working in xterm;
working in xterm with ^[OH but not working in CLI
End: not working with ^[[8~ because there are no more prefix-? to use;
working in xterm with ^[OF but not working in CLI

Now I'm getting REALLY puzzled
...any  more clues???

THX





 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  thanks, first of all. Del key is now working marvellously :)
  (btw, is this hack valid cross platform?)
 
  Instead Home and End are still stuck... buy, maybe, this could be due to
 the
  fact that where I'm experimenting is a laptop (dell latitude L400) and
 I'm
  getting respectively Home with Fn+PgUp and End with Fn+PgDn.

 Those happen to be the bindings that worked on my system.

 The best way to fix your system is to bind to whatever keycodes the
 buttons make.  This is probably accomplished by typing bind 'ctrl-V
 home'=beginning-of-line.

 ctrl-v escapes the next button you press.



Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables

2010-11-11 Thread Dennis Davis
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Tor Houghton wrote:

 From: Tor Houghton t...@bogus.net
 To: Ryan McBride mcbr...@openbsd.org
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:06:25
 Subject: Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables
 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:32:27PM +0900, Ryan McBride wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:45:16PM +0100, Tor Houghton wrote:
   May I ask whether or not per user ownership (or permission to update) a
   table is/will be possible?
   
   I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
   addresses to a table.
  
  You can look at sysutils/tabled in ports, which provides this
  functionality (permissions would be controlled by the filesystem
  permissions on the fifo)
  
  I don't think we'll be making /dev/pf accessible by non-root processes
  any time soon.
 
 This looks exactly like what I need.

You could also used pftabled from:

http://www.wolfermann.org/pftabled.html

although it's mainly intended for keeping table(s) in step across
co-operating hosts.  Access is controlled by knowing a HMAC-SHA1
keyed hash.

Make this small change to get it to build on OpenBSD4.8:

--- Makefile.in.origWed Feb  4 11:09:33 2009
+++ Makefile.in Thu Nov 11 11:28:31 2010
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@
${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -o $@ ${SERVEROBJS} ${LIBS}
 
 pftabled.cat1: pftabled.1
-   nroff -Tascii -man pftabled.1  pftabled.cat1
+   mandoc -Tascii -mandoc pftabled.1  pftabled.cat1
 
 pftabled-client: ${CLIENTOBJS}
${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -o $@ ${CLIENTOBJS} ${LIBS}
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Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread Scott Stanley
 However, you can add one of these for ~30USD:

 sili0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 CMD Technology SiI3124 SATA rev 0x02: apic
 4 int 1 (irq 5)
 scsibus1 at sili0: 4 targets

 And an external drive(s)

Thanks for the tip (yet another device I didn't know existed). The
rackmount hard drive enclosures I googled cost more than the system in
question. I guess I'll have to MacGyver something to keep my dirves
from sliding all over the place, unless you have another piece of
hardware up your sleeve.

 all real sun amd64/i386 gear i had my hands on over the previous years
 was horrible. and that is mostly due to the management processors
 being so incredibly bad.

I'm very ignorant, as you can tell, about technical computing. I
thought that a good system = good OS + good CPU + robust components. I
mean to say that although the functional design of each component (say
RAM, motherboard, etc) makes a difference, I just assumed that there's
not a huge amount of variation in performance of these components,
just in quality (endurance). Nobody needs to bother addressing this
statement, suffice it to say that one can know more than all the
people around him about something, and still know almost next to
nothing about the subject :)

Thank you all for the insightful discussion.

-Scott



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Today's pkg_add -u broke my Thunar on xfce

2010-11-11 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Hello,

I'm running -current on i386, today I upgraded system to 8 nov 2011
snapshot.
X and xfce4 worked flawlessly. I last upgraded xfce at the end of October.
After controlling X was ok, I went from CLI to upgrade the whole packages
with pkg_add -u.
Now, after loading xfce, icons on desktop do not show, and thunar fails to
start.

Is there some problem with last Thunar build?
THX



Re: Today's pkg_add -u broke my Thunar on xfce

2010-11-11 Thread David Coppa
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm running -current on i386, today I upgraded system to 8 nov 2011
 snapshot.
 X and xfce4 worked flawlessly. I last upgraded xfce at the end of October.
 After controlling X was ok, I went from CLI to upgrade the whole packages
 with pkg_add -u.
 Now, after loading xfce, icons on desktop do not show, and thunar fails to
 start.

 Is there some problem with last Thunar build?

If you launch thunar from a xterm, does any error message appear?

ciao,
david



Re: Today's pkg_add -u broke my Thunar on xfce

2010-11-11 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Hi David,

The first time, no msg at all, just the window of thunar that appears for
half a second and disappears immediately.
After that, with further trials:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

On CLI from where I launched startx xfce4-panel gives a couple of warnings:

1. Internal plugins need the X-XFCE-Module-Path entry to work properly
2. Failed to create plugin smartbookmark




On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:27 PM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm running -current on i386, today I upgraded system to 8 nov 2011
  snapshot.
  X and xfce4 worked flawlessly. I last upgraded xfce at the end of
 October.
  After controlling X was ok, I went from CLI to upgrade the whole packages
  with pkg_add -u.
  Now, after loading xfce, icons on desktop do not show, and thunar fails
 to
  start.
 
  Is there some problem with last Thunar build?

 If you launch thunar from a xterm, does any error message appear?

 ciao,
 david



Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
 The immediate try with bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line led to an
 effectively working Home, adding a tilde every keypress.
 So I decided to copy your way for Del and to define ^[[7 as a prefix with
 bind '^[[7'=prefix-1 as prefix-2 was already busy with Del; and then again
 bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line; you know what??? IT WORKED!

You have misinterpreted what prefix-2 means.  You can use it more than
once.  Consult the man page for ksh.



Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-11 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Actually I've been carefully through ksh man, and if I try to use prefix-2
more than once it just applies to the last entry, e.g.:

bind '^[[3'=prefix-2
bind '^[[3~'=delete-char-forward

and here Del works OK, but if I add:

bind '^[[7'=prefix-2
bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line

then Home works but Del does not anymore, and this does not even consider
End; as well, trying with:

bind '^[['=prefix-2
bind '^[[3~'=delete-char-forward
bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line
bind '^[[8~'=end-of-line

yields a flawlessly working Del, plus a working Home and End which, each
time pressed, add a nasty tilde at cursor.
All this testing was made in CLI only



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  The immediate try with bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line led to an
  effectively working Home, adding a tilde every keypress.
  So I decided to copy your way for Del and to define ^[[7 as a prefix
 with
  bind '^[[7'=prefix-1 as prefix-2 was already busy with Del; and then
 again
  bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line; you know what??? IT WORKED!

 You have misinterpreted what prefix-2 means.  You can use it more than
 once.  Consult the man page for ksh.



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Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread Diana Eichert

as an aside.

anyone know where you can purchase a Portwell CAM-0100 in NA?

diana



Re: Azalia No Problem but no Audio

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On 6 November 2010 20:59, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:39:00PM -0700, James Hozier wrote:

  I am not sure what all this code means, but would you like me to test
 stuff out?
  If I'm supposed to do something with this piece of code, you'll have to
 let me know
  what to do with it

 no, that's specific code for that specific machine he has.  yours needs
 special help too, that'll come later ...

 --
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



bgpldsh questions

2010-11-11 Thread Max Clark
Hello,

- is it possible to add a motd to the bgplgsh?

- what's the sanest way to enable telnet access to the bgplgsh?

Thanks in advance,
Max



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Re: AES-NI and GCM performance

2010-11-11 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see a number of changes in the 4.8 changelog referencing additions
 of AES-NI and AES-GCM. This PDF from Intel extolls the (rather
 astounding) virtues for linux:
 
 http://edc.intel.com/Link.aspx?id=3754
 
 Has anyone published any performance numbers for this on OpenBSD
 running on fancy new Intel processors?

Mike Belopuhov is working on it, but AES-NI acceleration of AES-GCM
isn't in the tree yet.

I think it is a reasonable assumption that OpenBSD's AES-GCM IPsec
performance will see a similar improvement.  The GHASH part of
AES-GCM is one of those algorithms that are easy to do in hardware,
but are slow when implemented in software with CPU arithmetic
operations.  (The whole raison d'etre of AES-GCM is that it is
accommodating to hardware implementations for line-speed encryption.)

AES-NI support for AES-CBC and AES-CTR is already enabled.  Somebody
might have figures for those.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-11 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 07:22:09PM +0100, Paolo Aglialoro wrote:
 Actually I've been carefully through ksh man, and if I try to use prefix-2
 more than once it just applies to the last entry, e.g.:
 
 bind '^[[3'=prefix-2
 bind '^[[3~'=delete-char-forward
 
 and here Del works OK, but if I add:
 
 bind '^[[7'=prefix-2
 bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line
 
 then Home works but Del does not anymore, and this does not even consider
 End; as well, trying with:
 
 bind '^[['=prefix-2
 bind '^[[3~'=delete-char-forward
 bind '^[[7~'=beginning-of-line
 bind '^[[8~'=end-of-line
 
 yields a flawlessly working Del, plus a working Home and End which, each
 time pressed, add a nasty tilde at cursor.

If you want to use a 4 characters keyboard key as a shell shortcut,
you will need to use a different shell than OpenBSD's ksh.

Like GNU's bash.

As you found out, ksh can only use key sequence in the form of
prefix + (1 letter). You get no error defining prefix + (2 letters)
but the 2nd character is ignored.

Also, as you tested, you can define as many prefix-2 sequence as
you want, they all end up as synomym of each other though.

Like up arrow is defined by default as:

^XA = up-history

but the actual key sequence is ^[[A for the keyboard up arrow. It
works because both ^X and ^[[ are defined as prefix-2.


Basicaly in your first exemple, you defined ( prefix-2 + ~ ). Houray
for tilde, but that doesn't allow you to differentiate between all
the key codes ending with ~.


 All this testing was made in CLI only



Re: Azalia No Problem but no Audio

2010-11-11 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:16:39PM -0200, Shazaum wrote:
 no work.

unless you're willing to send me your machine or one like it for keeps,
I've done all I am willing to do.  sorry.  it's just not worth my time
to try to fix vendor fuckups on machines I can't personally test.

 
 --
 
 Renato dos Santos
 shazaum.wordpress.com
 
 
 
 On 6 November 2010 20:59, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 
  On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:39:00PM -0700, James Hozier wrote:
 
   I am not sure what all this code means, but would you like me to test
  stuff out?
   If I'm supposed to do something with this piece of code, you'll have to
  let me know
   what to do with it
 
  no, that's specific code for that specific machine he has.  yours needs
  special help too, that'll come later ...
 
  --
  jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
  SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: Azalia No Problem but no Audio

2010-11-11 Thread Shazaum
ok, I admire your interest in wanting to add value to your code (to increase
the hardware support)
back to read the datasheet, and try to do something to help those who use
the same hardware that I use.

thank a lot of your attention
--

Renato dos Santos
shazaum.wordpress.com



On 11 November 2010 21:18, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:16:39PM -0200, Shazaum wrote:
  no work.

 unless you're willing to send me your machine or one like it for keeps,
 I've done all I am willing to do.  sorry.  it's just not worth my time
 to try to fix vendor fuckups on machines I can't personally test.

 
  --
 
  Renato dos Santos
  shazaum.wordpress.com
 
 
 
  On 6 November 2010 20:59, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 
   On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:39:00PM -0700, James Hozier wrote:
  
I am not sure what all this code means, but would you like me to test
   stuff out?
If I'm supposed to do something with this piece of code, you'll have
 to
   let me know
what to do with it
  
   no, that's specific code for that specific machine he has.  yours needs
   special help too, that'll come later ...
  
   --
   jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
   SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

 --
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: Azalia No Problem but no Audio

2010-11-11 Thread Shazaum
I say, I'll re-read the datasheet. (sorry)

--

Renato dos Santos
shazaum.wordpress.com



On 11 November 2010 22:35, Shazaum shaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok, I admire your interest in wanting to add value to your code (to
 increase the hardware support)
 back to read the datasheet, and try to do something to help those who use
 the same hardware that I use.

 thank a lot of your attention

 --

 Renato dos Santos
 shazaum.wordpress.com



 On 11 November 2010 21:18, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:16:39PM -0200, Shazaum wrote:
  no work.

 unless you're willing to send me your machine or one like it for keeps,
 I've done all I am willing to do.  sorry.  it's just not worth my time
 to try to fix vendor fuckups on machines I can't personally test.

 
  --
 
  Renato dos Santos
  shazaum.wordpress.com
 
 
 
  On 6 November 2010 20:59, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 wrote:
 
   On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:39:00PM -0700, James Hozier wrote:
  
I am not sure what all this code means, but would you like me to
 test
   stuff out?
If I'm supposed to do something with this piece of code, you'll have
 to
   let me know
what to do with it
  
   no, that's specific code for that specific machine he has.  yours
 needs
   special help too, that'll come later ...
  
   --
   jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
   SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

 --
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: Building a Practical Penetration Test Lab

2010-11-11 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 10/05/10 12:47, Toma9 Vavys wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to become helpful OpenBSD developer (pentester) one day,
 so I have a few questions.

 I am CompSci student at the moment. I consider myself as a white hat
 person and I really enjoy everything about security. It's a shame that
 we need to sleep sometimes, isn't it?

 Back to the main topic. I want to migrate to OpenBSD from ArchLinux.
 But I have these conditions. I travel a lot, so I need everything all
 in laptop(one). I am thinking about Windows 7 and OpenBSD dualboot
 because of my hardware support in Windows 7. I'd like to to use HDMI
 sometimes. So my questios are:

 1) What is the best possible way how to setup my penetration lab? I
 used Virtualbox in Archlinux, but I am new to BDS so I want to ask you
 what is different here in virtualization. Is it better to test
 everything in Windows 7 via Virtualbox. Or is it better to test
 everything via Qemu in OpenBSD? Are there any restrictions? What is
 your pentest lab setup like?

 2) I'd like to use disk encryption which prompts me for password
 at startup and then there will be 2 options for boot (Windows 7 or
 OpenBSD). How can I do this to keep OpenBSD totally safe from
 Windows 7? Can Windows 7 hurt my OpenBSD in any possible way? If yes,
 how can I prevent this?

 Thank you for your answers and patience.

 Toma9 Vavrys
 --
 Website: http://blog.cleancode.cz/


This might help with full disc encryption:
- http://16s.us/OpenBSD/softraid.txt
- man softraid
- man bioctl

Obviously, windows can't read anything.  I can, of course, write, or
delete you data.

The best penetration testing is though two physical computers, to better
simulate real conditions.
OpenBSD doesn't run properly on VirtualBox (it does install on the
latest version), and I belive virtualization is not really supported.


-- 
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: Azalia No Problem but no Audio

2010-11-11 Thread James Hozier
 From: Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 Subject: Re: Azalia No
Problem but no Audio
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Thursday, November 11,
2010, 11:18 PM
 
 unless you're willing to send me your machine or one like
 it for keeps,
 I've done all I am willing to do.  sorry.  it's
 just not
worth my time
 to try to fix vendor fuckups on machines I can't personally

test.
 
 

I'd like to thank you for your input on the issue I was having.
Patch didn't solve the problem, but I'm not complaining...I can live without
Flash/Java, and I can surely live without sound. I messed up fsck on an ext3
partition using OpenBSD due to my ignorance, so most of my files including
music got deleted anyway. Appreciate the help and now I hate nVidia even more



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Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-11 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:09:19 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert
deich...@wrench.com wrote:

 as an aside.
 
 anyone know where you can purchase a Portwell CAM-0100 in NA?
 
 diana
 

Diana,

You might want to give Portwell (in the US) a call: 1-510-403-3399

jcr



4.8-stable GENERIC i386 compliliation failure

2010-11-11 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Hi,

I just upgraded from 4.7-stable to 4.8-stable
and tried to rebuild the GENERIC i386 kernel
and 'make depend' failed.  Figuring that maybe
I'd done something wrong updating the source with
cvs I tried removing /usr/src and replacing it
with the 4.8 tarballs and I had the same
problem.

Here's the output:

snip
# cd /sys/arch/i386/conf
# config GENERIC
Don't forget to run make depend
# cd ../compile/GENERIC/
# make clean
rm -f eddep *bsd *bsd.gdb tags *.[io] [a-z]*.s  [Ee]rrs linterrs
assym.h
# make depend
make: don't know how to make ../../../../arch///locore.s. Stop in /usr/
src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.
snip

(Looks like something wrong with the _arch make variable)

Where should I go from here?

Thanks.

Karl k...@meme.com
Free Software:  You don't pay back, you pay forward.
 -- Robert A. Heinlein



Re: Building a Practical Penetration Test Lab

2010-11-11 Thread Jeremy Chase
2010/11/11 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar:
 On 10/05/10 12:47, Toma9 Vavys wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to become helpful OpenBSD developer (pentester) one day,
 so I have a few questions.

 I am CompSci student at the moment. I consider myself as a white hat
 person and I really enjoy everything about security. It's a shame that
 we need to sleep sometimes, isn't it?

 Back to the main topic. I want to migrate to OpenBSD from ArchLinux.
 But I have these conditions. I travel a lot, so I need everything all
 in laptop(one). I am thinking about Windows 7 and OpenBSD dualboot
 because of my hardware support in Windows 7. I'd like to to use HDMI
 sometimes. So my questios are:

 1) What is the best possible way how to setup my penetration lab? I
 used Virtualbox in Archlinux, but I am new to BDS so I want to ask you
 what is different here in virtualization. Is it better to test
 everything in Windows 7 via Virtualbox. Or is it better to test
 everything via Qemu in OpenBSD? Are there any restrictions? What is
 your pentest lab setup like?

 2) I'd like to use disk encryption which prompts me for password
 at startup and then there will be 2 options for boot (Windows 7 or
 OpenBSD). How can I do this to keep OpenBSD totally safe from
 Windows 7? Can Windows 7 hurt my OpenBSD in any possible way? If yes,
 how can I prevent this?

 Thank you for your answers and patience.

 Toma9 Vavrys
 --
 Website: http://blog.cleancode.cz/


 This might help with full disc encryption:
 - http://16s.us/OpenBSD/softraid.txt
 - man softraid
 - man bioctl

 Obviously, windows can't read anything. B I can, of course, write, or
 delete you data.

 The best penetration testing is though two physical computers, to better
 simulate real conditions.
 OpenBSD doesn't run properly on VirtualBox (it does install on the
 latest version), and I belive virtualization is not really supported.


 --
 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



I can confirm that OpenBSD doesn't always work as a virtual machine.
So I would focus on using OpenBSD as the host and using some other OS
as a client in QEMU.



Re: 4.8-stable GENERIC i386 compliliation failure

2010-11-11 Thread Vivien MOREAU
Thursday 11 Nov 2010 23:51 (-0600), Karl O. Pinc wrote :

 I just upgraded from 4.7-stable to 4.8-stable

How did you upgrade? Did you follow instructions at
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade48.html?

-- 
Vivien MOREAU



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