Re: installing OpenBSD 4.9 to external USB harddisk: Disk does not boot
Now that this topic has come up on the lists, I am just wondering are there some non-externally powered usb drives that OpenBSD can boot from? Would be helpful to run and test -current on external drive, and have the release version on internal drive. Just to be clear, I for one didn't previously say that *all* USB drives with external power supplies had settling in problems. I don't think that is the case. I'm pretty confident there are externally-powered usb drives out there that will work without settling in -- though I have to admit I just don't know how prevalent the issue real is. I only know that *some* drives and adapters have these problems. I own a USB-to-SATA/IDE adapter that does and that needs settling in, but that's the extent of my first-hand knowledge. I also don't know whether OS support still plays a role in this. I could imagine that *maybe* the USB stack of some OSes might be able to recognize that a drive hasn't settled in properly and might then be able to reset the drive or part of its USB stack to get things to work without the user taking special settling-in precautions. But I just don't know. The only thing that can really reveal the truth is testing. I would recommend bringing a laptop into the shop and trying before you buy an external USB drive/adapter. Or make sure there's a no-question-asked money back guarantee if you mail-order.
Re: amd64 snapshot kqemu hangs
On 08/08/11 03:59, ropers wrote: On 8 August 2011 03:54, Philip Guentherguent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:46 PM, ropersrop...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 August 2011 01:06, Philip Guentherguent...@gmail.com wrote: You see that ddb{1} prompt that I'm quoting from *your* original email? That's the prompt of the built-in kernel debugger. It even has a manpage: try man ddb on a running system. Is there a particular reason why the ddb man page doesn't also exist on the web? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=+ddb Did you insert the '+' in there to test whether people can read URLs? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ddb Ah. No. I see. What happened there was that I inadvertently entered ddb into the search field rather than ddb and the space was converted to a +. Should that input field be made to tolerate/strip extraneous spaces? I don't know, and since I'm not qualified to do the work, I won't express an opinion here. IMO, hmm, no. $ man ddb man: no entry for ddb in the manual. But thanks anyway. :) --ropers
Re: installing OpenBSD 4.9 to external USB harddisk: Disk does not boot
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Michael Treibton wrote: is there a cleverer way of doing this? i just do not have the infrastructure here to attempt a serial capture, despite the well-documented instructions in the OBSD docs. i can get the output you want, although because the installer doesn't have scp or anything, i have no means of copying these files. is there another means at my disposal to get these files off? Mount a USB flash drive, a floppy, even an internal drive partition with FAT or EXT2/3 filesystem there and copy the files. Regards, David
Re: installing OpenBSD 4.9 to external USB harddisk: Disk does not boot
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, David Vasek wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Ted Unangst wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2011, Michael Treibton wrote: is there a cleverer way of doing this? i just do not have the infrastructure here to attempt a serial capture, despite the well-documented instructions in the OBSD docs. i can get the output you want, although because the installer doesn't have scp or anything, i have no means of copying these files. is there another means at my disposal to get these files off? You booted the installer somehow, right? Boot from that disk to the boot prompt, then boot hd1:/bsd or hd0:/bsd or something as appropriate. If you can boot from the install CD, try at the bootloader prompt: boot boot /4.9/i386/bsd -a -s replace i386 with amd64 and bsd with bsd.rd if needed Ooops, I meant bsd.mp, of course. But SP kernel should be enough anyway. Regards, David
Re: hibernation with APM
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:35:57 -0500 joshua stein j...@openbsd.org wrote: This is semi-OT, but how does that work, actually? I mean, I know how suspend to disk works in principle, but if it's done purely from the BIOS, wouldn't the BIOS need to know about (and use) a special partition to store the RAM contents? Otherwise, how would the BIOS know where to store the RAM contents in the absence of OS involvement? on at least older thinkpads, it would swap to an msdos partition that had a specially-formatted save2dsk.bin file. tphdisk in the ports tree can be used for that. Don't forget to consider the security implications of hibernate which greatly outweigh the security implications of suspend. Kc
OpenBSD on Dell PowerEdge
Hi all, for a new loadbalancer setup that should replace two old F5s the plan is to use OpenBSD/relayd. Looking at the specs, a Dell R410 (or R610) would meet the requirements regarding hot-swap HDDs (RAID 1) and redundant power supply, but... Can anyone please confirm that OpenBSD is running on that hardware and what raid controller would be a good choice? The boxes are also to have 6 network interfaces. Which additional Quad NIC would be the best to take, Broadcom or Intel? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Michael Lechtermann
Re: OpenBSD on Dell PowerEdge
Am Mon, 8 Aug 2011 11:37:43 +0200 schrieb Michael Lechtermann mich...@lechtermann.net: [cut] Looking at the specs, a Dell R410 (or R610) would meet the requirements regarding hot-swap HDDs (RAID 1) and redundant power supply, but... Can anyone please confirm that OpenBSD is running on that hardware and what raid controller would be a good choice? The boxes are also to have 6 network interfaces. Which additional Quad NIC would be the best to take, Broadcom or Intel? [cut] Never had problems with the Dell Rx10-class, but I don't use RAID. And I use Intel Pro dual NICs in most of my Dell Equipment. Again - no problems at all... Regards Andre Ruppert
may be bug
I am not sure if it a bug, #!/bin/ksh INFILENUM=$1 function read_line { $ # Associate standard input with file descriptor 4 # and redirect standard input to $INFILENUM $ exec 40 exec 0 $INFILENUM $ read LINE echo $LINE $ # Restore standard input and close file # descriptor 4 $ exec 04 exec 4- } read_line output read_line: ./num.sh[23]: $: not found read_line: ./num.sh[23]: $: not found may someone explain it regards, --- -- igor denisov.
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Load average question
I am a little puzzled by how openbsd calculated load avaerage. I have a server running 4.9 i386 that should be doing very little indeed yet has a consistent load average of 0.6-0.9 Other similar servers have consisten load averages of 0.05-0.1 when i do a ps aux it shows a small number of processes using 0.0 CPU and very little memory. Where is the load coming from? I am not sure where to look. Thanks!
Re: Load average question
2011/8/8, Rikky Taylor rikkytay...@hotmail.co.uk: I am a little puzzled by how openbsd calculated load avaerage. I have a server running 4.9 i386 that should be doing very little indeed yet has a consistent load average of 0.6-0.9 Other similar servers have consisten load averages of 0.05-0.1 when i do a ps aux it shows a small number of processes using 0.0 CPU and very little memory. Where is the load coming from? I am not sure where to look. http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20090715034920mode=expanded -- Alexander Polakov | plhk.ru
Re: Load average question
Rikky Taylor rikkytay...@hotmail.co.uk writes: I am a little puzzled by how openbsd calculated load avaerage. I have a server running 4.9 i386 that should be doing very little indeed yet has a consistent load average of 0.6-0.9 Other similar servers have consisten load averages of 0.05-0.1 when i do a ps aux it shows a small number of processes using 0.0 CPU and very little memory. Where is the load coming from? I am not sure where to look. fairly high in the search results for openbsd load average on a popular search engine you will find this undeadly.org article that has a bit of discussion as well as useful pointers: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20090715034920mode=expanded - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Load average question
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Rikky Taylor wrote: I am a little puzzled by how openbsd calculated load avaerage. I have a server running 4.9 i386 that should be doing very little indeed yet has a consistent load average of 0.6-0.9 Other similar servers have consisten load averages of 0.05-0.1 when i do a ps aux it shows a small number of processes using 0.0 CPU and very little memory. Where is the load coming from? I am not sure where to look. There are also kernel processes which some other OS's do not include in load average calculation. It's a different quantity. For more detailed explanation read the article below or try to search a mailing list archive. http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20090715034920mode=expanded Nick, this is probably the single most frequently asked question... :-) Regards, David
Re: Load average question
Nick, this is probably the single most frequently asked question... :-) No, it is not. In the modern world of search engines, this question lands at the same level as trolling. If a person's first gut reaction isn't go type 3 words into a search engine, and instead they craft a 500 line email message to a list, that is trolling. Rikky, here is a diff which solves the problem you are facing: --- w.c Sat Jul 30 15:17:12 2011 +++ w.c.new Mon Aug 8 10:57:34 2011 @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ for (i = 0; i (sizeof(avenrun) / sizeof(avenrun[0])); i++) { if (i 0) (void)printf(,); - (void)printf( %.2f, avenrun[i]); + (void)printf( %.2f, 0.001); } (void)printf(\n); }
pf table creation query
Searching for a method to create a table based on the contents a file but slightly modified without needing to modify the file itself. Non-modified example is: table fromfile persist file /mypath/assortedaddresses Yet, attempts to modify do not work: table fromfile persist { !x.x.x.x/y, file /mypath/assortedaddresses } or: table fromfile persist { file /mypath/assortedaddresses, !x.x.x.x/y } generating: /etc/pf.conf:25: syntax error Also tried to create a new table by modifying the old one: table modfromfile persist { fromfile, !x.x.x.x/y } or: table modfromfile persist { !x.x.x.x/y, fromfile } and get: /etc/pf.conf:25: tables cannot contain tables Am I missing the proper syntax or is this not currently possible? Tanks, Chris
Re: Load average question
On 08/08/11 12:59, Theo de Raadt wrote: Nick, this is probably the single most frequently asked question... :-) No, it is not. In the modern world of search engines, this question lands at the same level as trolling. If a person's first gut reaction isn't go type 3 words into a search engine, and instead they craft a 500 line email message to a list, that is trolling. Rikky, here is a diff which solves the problem you are facing: --- w.c Sat Jul 30 15:17:12 2011 +++ w.c.new Mon Aug 8 10:57:34 2011 @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ for (i = 0; i (sizeof(avenrun) / sizeof(avenrun[0])); i++) { if (i 0) (void)printf(,); - (void)printf( %.2f, avenrun[i]); + (void)printf( %.2f, 0.001); } (void)printf(\n); } Hmmm. Wrap that around an #ifdef looking for an environment variable (LOADAV) and if it isn't set to IUNDERSTAND Theo's diff is what's shown. I'm not being entirely facetious. --STeve Andre'
Re: pf table creation query
Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org writes: Searching for a method to create a table based on the contents a file but slightly modified without needing to modify the file itself. not currently doable, it seems, but putting negations in the file to be fed works - peter@deeperthought:~$ cat tablemuff table muff persist file /home/peter/mufftable peter@deeperthought:~$ cat mufftable 192.168.103/24 !192.168.103.21 peter@deeperthought:~$ sudo pfctl -vf tablemuff table muff persist file /home/peter/mufftable peter@deeperthought:~$ sudo pfctl -vt muff -T show 192.168.103.0/24 Cleared:Mon Aug 8 19:40:17 2011 !192.168.103.21 Cleared:Mon Aug 8 19:40:17 2011 So cat'ing your negations to the end of the file before load or writing a tiny script that loads your file, then uses pfctl to apply the negations would both work. - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Load average question
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:04 PM, STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: On 08/08/11 12:59, Theo de Raadt wrote: Nick, this is probably the single most frequently asked question... :-) No, it is not. B In the modern world of search engines, this question lands at the same level as trolling. B If a person's first gut reaction isn't go type 3 words into a search engine, and instead they craft a 500 line email message to a list, that is trolling. Rikky, here is a diff which solves the problem you are facing: --- w.c Sat Jul 30 15:17:12 2011 +++ w.c.new B B Mon Aug B 8 10:57:34 2011 @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ B B B B B B B B for (i = 0; i B (sizeof(avenrun) / sizeof(avenrun[0])); i++) { B B B B B B B B B B B B if (i B 0) B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf(,); - B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf( %.2f, avenrun[i]); + B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf( %.2f, 0.001); B B B B B B B B } B B B B B B B B (void)printf(\n); B B B B } Hmmm. B Wrap that around an #ifdef looking for an environment variable B (LOADAV) B and if it isn't set to IUNDERSTAND Theo's diff is what's shown. cpp can't look for environment variables I'm not being entirely facetious. how facetious are you being, on a scale from 1 to 10? --STeve Andre'
Re: OpenBSD on Dell PowerEdge
On 2011-08-08, Michael Lechtermann mich...@lechtermann.net wrote: Hi all, for a new loadbalancer setup that should replace two old F5s the plan is to use OpenBSD/relayd. Looking at the specs, a Dell R410 (or R610) would meet the requirements regarding hot-swap HDDs (RAID 1) and redundant power supply, but... R310 can do that too, dmesg from -current below. Can anyone please confirm that OpenBSD is running on that hardware and what raid controller would be a good choice? H200 (mpii) works ok. H700 (mfi) is faster but I guess you probably won't be needing super-fast disks on a relayd box. The boxes are also to have 6 network interfaces. Which additional Quad NIC would be the best to take, Broadcom or Intel? I don't ever recall seeing a quad Broadcom nic. booting hd0a:/bsd: 5639768+1593356+932192+0+617952 [89+498144+322457]=0xd29700 entry point at 0x1001e0 [7205c766, 3404, 24448b12, 8e18a304] [ using 821536 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2011 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC.MP) #51: Sun Aug 7 13:28:58 MDT 2011 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4284059648 (4085MB) avail mem = 4155899904 (3963MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xbf79c000 (66 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version 1.5.2 date 10/15/2010 bios0: Dell Inc. PowerEdge R310 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR HPET DM__ MCFG WD__ SLIC ERST HEST BERT EINJ TCPA SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) USBA(S0) USBB(S0) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3430 @ 2.40GHz, 1197.17 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3430 @ 2.40GHz, 1196.99 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3430 @ 2.40GHz, 1196.99 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3430 @ 2.40GHz, 1196.99 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (LYD0) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 5 (LYD2) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (HVD0) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (HVD2) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX0) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX4) acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 1 (COMP) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1 acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3, C1 acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3, C1 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Core DMI rev 0x11 ppb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Intel Core PCIE rev 0x11: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 4 ppb1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Intel Core PCIE rev 0x11: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 5 mpii0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Symbios Logic SAS2008 rev 0x03: msi scsibus0 at mpii0: 42 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: Dell, Virtual Disk, 1028 SCSI4 0/direct fixed naa.600508e013201cfbcb2f1f04 sd0: 476416MB, 512 bytes/sector, 975699968 sectors ses0 at scsibus0 targ 10 lun 0: DP, BACKPLANE, 1.07 SCSI3 13/enclosure services fixed t10.DP_BACKPLANE00 Intel Core Management rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured Intel Core Scratch rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 8 function 1 not configured Intel Core Control rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 8 function 2 not configured Intel Core Misc rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 8 function 3 not configured Intel Core QPI Link rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 not configured Intel Core QPI Routing rev 0x11 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 not configured ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 3400 USB rev 0x05: apic 0 int 22 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0
Re: Load average question
On 08/08/11 17:18, Andres Perera wrote: On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:04 PM, STeve Andre'and...@msu.edu wrote: On 08/08/11 12:59, Theo de Raadt wrote: Nick, this is probably the single most frequently asked question... :-) No, it is not. B In the modern world of search engines, this question lands at the same level as trolling. B If a person's first gut reaction isn't go type 3 words into a search engine, and instead they craft a 500 line email message to a list, that is trolling. Rikky, here is a diff which solves the problem you are facing: --- w.c Sat Jul 30 15:17:12 2011 +++ w.c.new B B Mon Aug B 8 10:57:34 2011 @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ B B B B B B B B for (i = 0; i B (sizeof(avenrun) / sizeof(avenrun[0])); i++) { B B B B B B B B B B B B if (i B 0) B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf(,); - B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf( %.2f, avenrun[i]); + B B B B B B B B B B B (void)printf( %.2f, 0.001); B B B B B B B B } B B B B B B B B (void)printf(\n); B B B B } Hmmm. B Wrap that around an #ifdef looking for an environment variable B (LOADAV) B and if it isn't set to IUNDERSTAND Theo's diff is what's shown. cpp can't look for environment variables I'm not being entirely facetious. how facetious are you being, on a scale from 1 to 10? About 6. It's that low because of multiple arguments I've had with people about what load averages mean, and the calls I've gotten from people panicked about a 15+ load average, etc. People tend to think of load averages like blood pressure, I've come to understand. --STeve Andre'
Re: OpenBSD on Dell PowerEdge
- Original Message - | On 2011-08-08, Michael Lechtermann mich...@lechtermann.net wrote: | Hi all, | | for a new loadbalancer setup that should replace two old F5s the | plan | is to use OpenBSD/relayd. | | Looking at the specs, a Dell R410 (or R610) would meet the | requirements | regarding hot-swap HDDs (RAID 1) and redundant power supply, but... | | R310 can do that too, dmesg from -current below. | | Can anyone please confirm that OpenBSD is running on that hardware | and | what raid controller would be a good choice? | | H200 (mpii) works ok. H700 (mfi) is faster but I guess you probably | won't | be needing super-fast disks on a relayd box. | | The boxes are also to have 6 network interfaces. Which additional | Quad | NIC would be the best to take, Broadcom or Intel? | | I don't ever recall seeing a quad Broadcom nic. snip I think there is an issue with Broadcom cards and VLANs IIRC. On the Dell R200 I have the integrated bge drivers do not seem to support VLANs, other cards might not have issues but YMMV. -- James A. Peltier IT Services - Research Computing Group Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 778-782-6573 Fax : 778-782-3045 E-Mail : jpelt...@sfu.ca Website : http://www.sfu.ca/itservices http://blogs.sfu.ca/people/jpeltier
Re: may be bug
Hi Igor, igor denisov wrote on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 02:39:23PM +0400: I am not sure if it a bug, It looks like a copy-and-paste bugs in your script. read_line: ./num.sh[23]: $: not found Run hexdump -C on your script. I see this, for example: 23 21 2f 62 69 6e 2f 6b 73 68 0a 49 4e 46 49 4c |#!/bin/ksh.INFIL| 0010 45 4e 55 4d 3d 24 31 0a 0a 66 75 6e 63 74 69 6f |ENUM=$1..functio| 0020 6e 20 72 65 61 64 5f 6c 69 6e 65 20 20 7b 0a 20 |n read_line {. | 0030 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 || * 0070 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 24 0a | $.| 0080 23 20 41 73 73 6f 63 69 61 74 65 20 73 74 61 6e |# Associate stan| And this: 00d0 74 6f 20 24 49 4e 46 49 4c 45 4e 55 4d 20 0a 24 |to $INFILENUM .$| 00e0 0a 0a 65 78 65 63 20 34 3c 26 30 0a 65 78 65 63 |..exec 40.exec| If you put a dollar sign at the end of a line, no matter whether there are lots of blanks before it or not, you need not wonder that the shell tries to interpret the dollar sign as code. Yours, Ingo
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