xenocara Radeon Mobility HD 5470
Xenocara does not seem to recognize Radeon Mobility 5470 but it shows up in dmesg. The laptop has switchable graphics with Intel i3 integrated and dedicated Radeon 5470. Also it does not work when I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the screen is all black, but when I run on /home/shaul/xorg.conf.new then I can use fvwm like normal OpenBSD 5.1-beta (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sun Jan 22 05:19:38 PST 2012 sh...@sfbgs.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 3948367872 (3765MB) avail mem = 3829104640 (3651MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xe9b70 (51 entries) bios0: vendor INSYDE version V1.25 date 03/16/2011 bios0: Acer Aspire 5820TG acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP ASF! HPET APIC MCFG SLIC BOOT ASPT WDAT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices PEGA(S4) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) PXSX(S4) RP01(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz, 2261.36 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz, 2261.00 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz, 2261.00 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 5 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz, 2261.00 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf000, bus 0-127 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P2) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP01) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP02) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP03) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP07) acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP08) acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG3) acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG5) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 90 degC acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 model AS10B5E serial 277D type LION oem PANASONIC acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0 acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD02 acpivideo1 at acpi0: VGA_ acpivout1 at acpivideo1: LCD_ cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2261 MHz: speeds: 2266, 2133, 1999, 1866, 1733, 1599, 1466, 1333, 1199, 1066, 933 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Core Host rev 0x12 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x12: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5470 rev 0x00 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not configured azalia0 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 ATI Radeon HD 5470 Audio rev 0x00: msi azalia0: no supported codecs vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel Mobile HD graphics rev 0x12 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel 3400 MEI rev 0x06 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 3400 USB rev 0x05: apic 2 int 16 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia1 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 3400 HD Audio rev 0x05: msi azalia1: codecs: Realtek ALC269 audio0 at azalia1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x05: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 alc0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L1D rev 0xc0: msi, address c8:0a:a9:bb:df:4b atphy0 at alc0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 15 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x05: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 athn0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR9281
X.org server allows anyone to unlock computer (on current)
Hi, Locking the screen with xlock, then pressing ctrl+alt+numeric* unlocks the screen as described at: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/X-org-server-allows-anyone-to-unlock-computer-1417864.html This happens on amd64 week-old-current, tried with both fvwm (from base) and with jwm window manager. I suppose if anyone has physical access to a machine, they could get access to hard drive with a boot cd, but this vulnerability makes it pretty easy. Brett.
Re: X.org server allows anyone to unlock computer (on current)
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Brett brett.ma...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, Locking the screen with xlock, then pressing ctrl+alt+numeric* unlocks the screen as described at: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/X-org-server-allows-anyone-to-unlock-computer-1417864.html This happens on amd64 week-old-current, tried with both fvwm (from base) and with jwm window manager. I suppose if anyone has physical access to a machine, they could get access to hard drive with a boot cd, but this vulnerability makes it pretty easy. It was already fixed with a commit by sthen@ ciao, David
Re: X.org server allows anyone to unlock computer (on current)
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:32:30 +0100 David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Brett brett.ma...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, Locking the screen with xlock, then pressing ctrl+alt+numeric* unlocks the screen as described at: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/X-org-server-allows-anyone-to-unlock-computer-1417864.html This happens on amd64 week-old-current, tried with both fvwm (from base) and with jwm window manager. I suppose if anyone has physical access to a machine, they could get access to hard drive with a boot cd, but this vulnerability makes it pretty easy. It was already fixed with a commit by sthen@ ciao, David Too fast for me to see! --
Re: How to add new non-continuous A6 partition after install
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 05:26:33AM +, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote: For kinds of reasons, my disk is partitionized like this: 1st partition is for Windows system(Primary) 2nd is for OpenBSD(Primary) 3rd is Windows extended partition(Extended) 4th is originally not used, now I created a new one and mark it as A6.(Primary) Question is after I created the 4th partition, I can get the partition information using fdisk, but can't see anything using disklabel. How do I use the 4th partition? Will it be helpful if I just reformat it to fat32 or ext3? I used to ask this question before, as far as I know, it's not a support config in bsd 4.5. Is bsd 5.0 support this now? ??? it has worked in OpenBSD for a very long time, possibly forever, though I recall using it in 3.3. You should read disklabel documentation more closely. Pay particular attention to the b (set OpenBSD disk boundaries) command. Just be very very careful with your numbers, since there is totally no support for several ranges of boundaries, so once you enable your 4th partition, you basically have permission to create new bsd partitions all over the place, which includes the Windows stuff...
Routerboard RB600 and hifn(4)
Hello! Does anyone on the list have experience with a hifn(4) card (such as the Soekris vpn1411) in a Routerboard RB600? I'm using it for an ipsec tunnel (isakmpd between RB600 and an other OpenBSD i386 box) and would like to know if it will give me any performance increase before I purchase one? Today I get about 12 Mb/s through the tunnel and 60-70 Mb/s outside. I am measuring this with iperf on OpenBSD 5.0 and the RB600 CPU is set to 533MHz. /Stefan
Re: How to add new non-continuous A6 partition after install
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Marc Espie wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 05:26:33AM +, lbvvbooo lbvvbooo wrote: For kinds of reasons, my disk is partitionized like this: 1st partition is for Windows system(Primary) 2nd is for OpenBSD(Primary) 3rd is Windows extended partition(Extended) 4th is originally not used, now I created a new one and mark it as A6.(Primary) Question is after I created the 4th partition, I can get the partition information using fdisk, but can't see anything using disklabel. How do I use the 4th partition? Will it be helpful if I just reformat it to fat32 or ext3? I used to ask this question before, as far as I know, it's not a support config in bsd 4.5. Is bsd 5.0 support this now? ??? it has worked in OpenBSD for a very long time, possibly forever, though I recall using it in 3.3. You should read disklabel documentation more closely. Pay particular attention to the b (set OpenBSD disk boundaries) command. I agree, I had been using something similar with older releases too. Still I don't think everything works with more than one A6 parition. It didn't work for me. Putting single FFS file system directly in the other fdisk partition works, but there is no standard fdisk partition ID for such a partition. To avoid many risks, I solved it by some undefined partition ID. Is there any recommended ID to use for the FFS partition? Regards, David
Re: locate weirdness
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Re: How to add new non-continuous A6 partition after install
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:04:13PM +0100, David Vasek wrote: Still I don't think everything works with more than one A6 parition. It didn't work for me. Putting single FFS file system directly in the other fdisk partition works, but there is no standard fdisk partition ID for such a partition. To avoid many risks, I solved it by some undefined partition ID. Is there any recommended ID to use for the FFS partition? You'll have to look more closely at the boot code. I think that it will prefer the active partition at the fdisk level. Apart from that, if I had two A6 partitions, one with an actual disklabel, the other with nothing, I know which one I would prefer...
Softraid
Hello World! Perhaps a trivial question. Let us suppose, I follow the instructions of SOFTRAID(4) for bulding a Raid 1 device sd0 from wd1, wd2, wd3. Let us suppose that I make a ufs file system in sd0. As I see, there are fdisc and disklabel partitions in each wd disc and in sd0. Will I later be able to mount wd1 (wd2, wd3) alone? As a Raid1 with one disk? And if I want to mount it in other operating system supporting ufs? And a question not about OpenBSD: is this problem solved with Hardware Raid or do hardware Raid controles add other info to the discs? I have a dpt PM37755U2B (SmartRaid V Millenium): is this controler supported by OpenBSD (not mentioned in DPT(4))? I want to make a file server with an old computer, just for backups, but I want portable discs, not to depend too much on hardware and operating system. Do someone have an Idea what can I do? :) Thanks Rod.
Re: n00b questions -- keyboard messed up
On 1/22/12 9:47 PM, John Doe wrote: Excuse my good old-fashioned American turkeyness of last year, but if it's not secure by default, it does indeed belong on the website. Why can't we set machdep.allowaperture=1 for n00bs whose first priority is to use X Windows without getting hacked in the kernel from all those stray pointers escaping from Firefox? Sure, ASLR helps, but I want a basic browser capable of running Javascript securely in a thread-safe jail without crashing on double frees, running out of memory, and selling more cookies than the Girl Scouts, that somehow manages to maintain more hidden access logs than a Swiss bank on MY personal computer, regardless of the privacy settings I choose. Is surf a better browser, or are there other suggestions? Surely OpenBSD would not be accused of antitrust for integrating a browser into the operating system, or at least coming up with or pointing users toward a decent port if there is one. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but what I'm getting at is that I want/need a secure standards-compliant graphical client for web access. - Original Message - From: Tomas Bodzartomas.bod...@gmail.com To: John Doejl2...@yahoo.com Cc: w...@openbsd.orgw...@openbsd.org; OpenBSD-misc listmisc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: Re: n00b questions -- keyboard messed up On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:16 PM, John Doejl2...@yahoo.com wrote: The keyboard mapping in the kernel is getting correpted when I use X Windows Version 11 Release 6 Xenocara. I am using a Microsoft(R) Digital Media Keyboard 3000. How do I map the extra keys? and would it help if I used machdep.allowaperture=1 instead of 2? Also kbd can change the keyboard mapping as a regular user, but it cannot list the available keyboard mappings without being r00t, and it doesn't take effect until I log out and back in to X-Windows. Why is this, and how do I type diacritical marks like circumflex carets and other accents, umlauts, ruotsalainen o, etc. in OpenBSD? This thread belongs to misc@ and not www@ post your dmesg, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for mapping keys in X see man xmodmap Why machdep.allowaperture and what is done by this setting see http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=xf86sektion=4 (man xf86) I LOVE this guy... turkeyness Girl Scouts Swiss bank - that's what I call a good old fashioned blue blooded American perkiness! In fact, the lingo kept me reading and now I'm actually interested in this browser he is looking for.r Mehmasarja
Re: n00b questions -- keyboard messed up
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:47 AM, John Doe jl2...@yahoo.com wrote: Excuse my good old-fashioned American turkeyness of last year, but if it's not secure by default, it does indeed belong on the website. Why can't we set machdep.allowaperture=1 for n00bs whose first priority is to use X Windows without getting hacked in the kernel from all those stray pointers escaping from Firefox? Sure, ASLR helps, but I want a basic browser capable of running Javascript securely in a thread-safe jail without crashing on double frees, running out of memory, and selling more cookies than the Girl Scouts, that somehow manages to maintain more hidden access logs than a Swiss bank on MY personal computer, regardless of the privacy settings I choose. Is surf a better browser, or are there other suggestions? Many like xxxterm. cheers David
Packet loss simulation + PFsync documentation
Hello everyone, I've been searching around and couldn't find a full description of the pfsync header format and all the different types of messages (some kind of RFC). Do you guys know whether or not there exists such a document ? or something similar that would review in details al the types of messages for pfsync ? I've read David Gwynne's paper about pfsync_v5 (openbsd.org/papers/pfsync_v5.pdf), and he gives a quick list of the different message types, but its work is 2 years old and maybe the protocol evolved since then ? Are there no other message types in the current implementation ? Also, does the protocol implement some kind of reliability mechanism, like message sequencing / acknowledgements messages ? How would pfsync behave in an environment with limited bandwith and subject to packets loss ? Lastly, I'd like to test pfsync in a simulated environment with potential packets loss/corruptions and/or with limited bandwith. I know I can emulate packets loss by adding probability to a block rule in pf.conf, and I'm not sure but I think ALTQ could help to add some bandwith limitation (though its main goal is more to implement QoS rules, again correct me if I'm wrong). I've heard of Dummynet for FreeBSD ; is there the equivalent for OpenBSD ? Thanks for reading me, Regards, Quentin Aebischer University of Sherbrooke, Canada
Re: Softraid
On 01/23/2012 10:04 AM, sc...@web.de wrote: Hello World! Perhaps a trivial question. Let us suppose, I follow the instructions of SOFTRAID(4) for bulding a Raid 1 device sd0 from wd1, wd2, wd3. Let us suppose that I make a ufs file system in sd0. As I see, there are fdisc and disklabel partitions in each wd disc and in sd0. Will I later be able to mount wd1 (wd2, wd3) alone? As a Raid1 with one disk? And if I want to mount it in other operating system supporting ufs? as RAID1 with a FAILED disk, you should be -- that's the idea of RAID (often forgot, of course; people often forget the point isn't to have RAID, but to recover data). As for other operating system supporting UFS, that's kinda an interesting question. Not sure if any other OSs natively read OpenBSD partitions (same can be said for Solaris, FreeBSD and NetBSD). While your goal of having an OpenBSD replacement plan is good (you should always start out a project with, as one of your design goals, how do I switch off this product when a better one comes along or this one becomes unavailable/unmaintained), I don't think pulling disk and extracting data is what you need to worry about as much as moving data to a new platform at a later date. Should the OpenBSD project dissolve tomorrow, you would still be able to boot an OpenBSD install disk on any existing hardware, recover your data, and transfer it to a new machine/platform as desired. Other than that, OpenBSD speaks NFS natively, and can speak SMB with additions, and SSH for extracting data, so I don't think that will be a problem. And a question not about OpenBSD: is this problem solved with Hardware Raid or do hardware Raid controles add other info to the discs? The only hw RAID system I am aware of that you can remove a single disk from a mirror and have it Just Work in a PC with a native connection are the Accusys and Arco mirroring boxes -- they let you add a mirror to an existing single drive, or remove a drive from the box and let you use either of the drives without the Accusys hardware as a stand-alone. Unfortunately, they seem to be the exception rather than the rule. This is why it is important to have another identical RAID controller to extract data from your disk I have a dpt PM37755U2B (SmartRaid V Millenium): is this controler supported by OpenBSD (not mentioned in DPT(4))? plug it in and find out! but...if you have only one...don't use it for anything serious (or be ready to use your backup...) I want to make a file server with an old computer, just for backups, but I want portable discs, not to depend too much on hardware and operating system. Do someone have an Idea what can I do? :) Skip your HW RAID if you only have one controller -- you will wish you had listened to me should it fail. Either use softraid (yes, it ties you to OpenBSD, but only those disks, not your data), or simply copy to one disk, then from that disk to the other disk inside your system. OpenBSD is among the easiest OSs to move its disks from one machine to another around -- much easier than Windows or Linux, assuming the new hardware is supported by the version of OpenBSD on your disks (yet another reason to keep up to date). Nick.
Lemote Yeelong won't wake up from zzz when called from X
If I directly call zzz from xterm running under xfce4 it sleeps and doesn't wake up. I'm pretty sure I know the reason (and even suspect this is the expected behavior), but was hoping someone smarter would chime in with the reason. Thanks, -Bryan
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Re: Softraid
Thank you very much to Nick Holand for his answer! Not sure if any other OSs natively read OpenBSD partitions My experience with older OpenBSD and FreeBSD: if the OpenBSD partition is in a fdisc partition (slice), you can mount it in FreeBSD; with some trivial arithmetic and some editing of disklabel you can also mount a FreeBSD partition in OpenBSD. I dont know if this is still the case and if it is only casuality, not intended, if there can be troubles. or simply copy to one disk, then from that disk to the other disk inside your system Perhaps a solution with rsync is a good alternative, automated with a script. Rod.
Keyboard mapping
Here's yet another question about keyboard mapping... When I boot bsd.rd and pick the cf keyboard mapping in the installer, everything works perfectly. After I reboot (bsd.mp), the keyboard seems correctly mapped (keys are at the right places), but some keys do nothing (e-acute (not a dead key) and accent dead keys). /etc/kbdtype contains cf. I tried playing with kbd and wsconsctl. Everything seems normal except the above mentioned keys that do nothing. When I switch to us, the keys that did nothing start working correctly, although with the us mapping. What could be different between bsd and bsd.rd that could have such an impact? I include both the dmesg from bsd.rd and bsd.mp. Thanks, Simon OpenBSD 5.0 (RAMDISK_CD) #36: Wed Aug 17 10:27:31 MDT 2011 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE real mem = 2138238976 (2039MB) avail mem = 2096250880 (1999MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/23/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0720 (30 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0905 date 09/23/2009 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 1005HA acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT SLIC acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P5) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6) bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00! pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 pci1 at ppb0 bus 4 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 athn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR9285 rev 0x01: apic 2 int 17 athn0: AR9285 rev 2 (1T1R), ROM rev 13, address 1c:4b:d6:20:6c:fe ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 19 pci3 at ppb2 bus 1 alc0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L2C rev 0xc0: msi, address 90:e6:ba:57:8a:72 atphy0 at alc0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 11 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 23 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 19 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 18 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2 pci4 at ppb3 bus 5 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GBM AHCI rev 0x02: msi, AHCI 1.1 scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, ST9250315AS, 0002 SCSI3 0/direct fixed naa.5000c500192a178e sd0: 238475MB, 512 bytes/sector, 488397168 sectors usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 Sonix Technology Co., Ltd. USB 2.0 Camera rev 2.00/9.07 addr 2 at uhub0 port 2 not configured softraid0 at root scsibus1 at softraid0: 256 targets root on rd0a swap on rd0b dump on rd0b OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC.MP) #59: Wed Aug 17 10:19:44 MDT 2011 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE real mem = 2138238976 (2039MB) avail mem = 2093182976 (1996MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date
Re: Keyboard mapping
Hi, Simon Perreault wrote [2012-01-23 21:44+0100]: /etc/kbdtype contains cf. I tried playing with kbd and wsconsctl. I'm not an expert, but i'll append something for you to play with even more. Maybe it'll help you. Otherwise wait for the answer of someone who actually is an expert. Everything seems normal except the above mentioned keys that do nothing. If the program you are working with is eight bit clean (ksh(1) doesn't work, csh(1) does), maybe it's the mapping. AFAIK there is no way, neither in base nor in packages, to print out the actually used scancodes of the keyboards' keys. After i've messed up another keyboard-related question last week or so (;) i've sat down and wrote a small thing which prints out the currently used ones, so that it's possible to compare them with the output of $ sudo wsconsctl keyboard.map Note that this is intermediate version, don't type too fast (ridiculous buffer handling) etc., but i haven't had time to polish it. But it works. IMHO a subset of that should be part of wsconsctl(8), btw. Hope that helps, good night and ciao, --steffen -- 8 -- /* wscons_scankey, a yet not finished showkey-thing. * Compile: * $ gcc -W -Wall -pedantic -ansi -o wscons_scankey wscons_scankey.c * Use (not on pseudo-terminal): * $ ./wscons_scankey [krtv] # default = k */ #include err.h #include errno.h #include signal.h #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include termios.h #include unistd.h #include sys/ioctl.h #include sys/time.h #include dev/wscons/wsconsio.h static struct termios tios_orig, tios_raw; static int no_raw; static void onsig(int sig); static void rawinit(void), rawon(void), rawoff(void); static void onsig(int sig) { rawoff(); exit(! (sig == SIGALRM)); } static void rawinit(void) { if (tcgetattr(STDIN_FILENO, tios_orig) 0) err(3, Can't query terminal attributes); tios_raw = tios_orig; (void)cfmakeraw(tios_raw); return; } static void rawon(void) { auto int arg = WSKBD_RAW; if (tcsetattr(STDIN_FILENO, TCSANOW, tios_raw) 0) err(3, Can't set terminal attributes); if (! no_raw ioctl(STDIN_FILENO, WSKBDIO_SETMODE, arg) 0) { int x = errno; (void)tcsetattr(STDIN_FILENO, TCSANOW, tios_orig); errno = x; err(3, Can't put keyboard in raw mode ( needs the WSDISPLAY_COMPAT_RAWKBD kernel option)); } return; } static void rawoff(void) { auto int arg = WSKBD_TRANSLATED; if (! no_raw) (void)ioctl(STDIN_FILENO, WSKBDIO_SETMODE, arg); (void)tcsetattr(STDIN_FILENO, TCSANOW, tios_orig); return; } int main(int argc, char **argv) { enum { MODE_KEYCODE, MODE_RAW, MODE_VALUE } mode = MODE_KEYCODE; ssize_t br, i; auto struct sigaction sa; auto struct itimerval it; auto char buf[64]; if (argc 1) switch (**++argv) { case 'k': mode = MODE_KEYCODE; break; case 't': no_raw = 1; /* FALLTHRU */ case 'r': mode = MODE_RAW; break; case 'v': mode = MODE_VALUE; no_raw = 1; break; default: mode = -1; break; } if ((int)mode 0) errx(1, Usage: wscons_showkey [krtv] (keycode, raw, termios-raw, value)); if (!isatty(STDIN_FILENO)) err(1, STDIN is not a terminal); rawinit(); sa.sa_handler = onsig; sa.sa_flags = 0; (void)sigfillset(sa.sa_mask); for (i = 0; i _NSIG; ++i) if (sigaction((int)i + 1, sa, NULL) 0 i == SIGALRM) err(2, Can't install SIGALRM signal handler); printf( You may now use the keyboard;\n After five seconds of inactivity the program terminates\n); for (;;) { it.it_value.tv_sec = 5; it.it_value.tv_usec = 0; it.it_interval.tv_sec = it.it_interval.tv_usec = 0; if (setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, it, NULL) 0) err(2, Can't install wakeup timer); rawon(); br = read(STDIN_FILENO, buf, sizeof buf - 1); rawoff(); if (br = 0) break; /* src/sys/dev/wscons/wsksymdef.h */ switch (mode) { case MODE_KEYCODE: { unsigned int rc, c; const char *meta; for (i = 0; i br; ++i) { rc
Re: Keyboard mapping
On 2012-01-23 16:40, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: If the program you are working with is eight bit clean (ksh(1) doesn't work, csh(1) does), maybe it's the mapping. THANK YOU! Keys work fine in csh, not in ksh. And bsd.rd uses sh IIRC, so that would be the answer. Thanks! Simon
Re: Keyboard mapping
Simon Perreault sperrea...@openbsd.org wrote: /etc/kbdtype contains cf. I tried playing with kbd and wsconsctl. Everything seems normal except the above mentioned keys that do nothing. They work fine but ksh defaults to treating the top bit as meta, so for instance e acute will be interpreted as M-i which isn't mapped. Try a simple cat /dev/null and typing there. You can use set +o emacs-usemeta to change ksh's behavior. And meta-key-mode in ~/.mg for mg(1). -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: n00b questions -- keyboard messed up
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 09:47:52PM -0800, John Doe wrote: Excuse my good old-fashioned American turkeyness of last year, but if it's not secure by default, it does indeed belong on the website. Why can't we set machdep.allowaperture=1 for n00bs whose first priority is to use X Windows Commenting halfway across your sentence: security and usability conflict here. Most people don't want it set to 1 because the VGA framebuffer does not offer many goodies regarding screen usage. without getting hacked in the kernel from all those stray pointers escaping from Firefox? Sure, ASLR helps, In fact, ASLR can hardly be called a defense in JITs (javascript is a JITted language: Just In Time compiled). Most JITs either manage their own memory, completely bypassing any ASLR in the OS, or depend on certain features of ASLR. Also, the current implementation of ASLR is not very effective on large memory hogs like browsers. but I want a basic browser capable of running Javascript securely in a thread-safe jail JITs are in their infant stage and still catching up to the latest decades of security insights. without crashing on double frees, That would scare me actually. A double free means that: either the software kept using the memory after the first free, likely corrupting another part of the program, and it may have used incorrect data for that time (since another part of the program may have written its own data their). For example, it may have published your passwords in some forum, if the memory was used for password storage and a form post buffer at the same time. running out of memory, Unfortunately, no resource is unlimited. and selling more cookies than the Girl Scouts, that somehow manages to maintain more hidden access logs than a Swiss bank on MY personal computer, regardless of the privacy settings I choose. In this case, you probably want to switch browsers altogether. Is surf a better browser, or are there other suggestions? I don't know surf. Someone mentioned xxxterm. I highly recommend it. It's also based on webkit, which uses a JIT for its javascript, so the above still applies to both browsers. Surely OpenBSD would not be accused of antitrust for integrating a browser into the operating system, We hardly classify as a monopoly. :) or at least coming up with or pointing users toward a decent port if there is one. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but what I'm getting at is that I want/need a secure standards-compliant graphical client for web access. xxxterm is very fast and minimalistic (less complexity, thus less chance for bugs). There's midori, which is a bit larger. Then there's chrome. If you're using i386, you can also decide to run opera, using the linux emulation layer. All these can be found in the ports collection. KDE also had a browser (konqueror). I don't know if KDE4 still provides it. Konqueror, as shipped in KDE3, is pretty dated and will probably not handle many sites, so won't display facebook or twitter (which may considered a feature). But if you're really conscious about security, you won't use any graphical browser. They're huge, complex beasts and the recent cool-aid of getting them to run faster has been detrimental to any left-over safety (not to mention portability). Using any browser is like locking the front door to your house after putting the furniture on your lawn. :( -- Ariane
Re: OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov 3 00:58:36 MDT 2011
Hi Richard, On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 01:05:15PM -0500, Richard Thornton wrote: One other thing which I forgot to add to my last email, my father always used to remind me that there are no stupid questions, but it appears to me that your openbsd group does not hold to that adage. We do prefer if you've done some research of your own too. Nick pointing you at the faq was a polite suggestion (although I guess it didn't come across as such). Using the same jargon as the rest of the mailing list helps reduce confusion, which is the main reason of us telling you to read it. Most questions are judged as being some level of stupid and the person who asked the stupid question is judged accordingly. One is either lazy or can't read, or too stupid to read the very well written FAQS, etc.. Actually, if it was unclear, I'd really like to hear about it. Whatever, so you guys have a great OS for yourselves. Excellent. Personally, I do enjoy others using it too. And not just because it makes me happy that they run my code. :) On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jan 21 09:44:14, Richard Thornton wrote: [snip: pointless flame fest] On Jan 21, 2012 9:25 AM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Jan 21 07:18:37, Richard Thornton wrote: It works for me now. I don't care about your precious FAQS. The faq, manuals, documentation, they're all part of making this OS into an actual OS, rather than a jumble of code. They're also there for your convenience: finding the answer in the faq and manuals is a lot quicker than waiting for a mail reply. Not to mention that people get annoyed if you show blatant disregard for them. I lack sufficient context to determine if you're responding because you thought you were being verbally abused or if you genuinely don't care. I hope it's not the latter. You are not supposed to care about them. You are supposed to read at least the absolute basics if you have trouble even figuring out which version you are installing. On Jan 21 08:54:49, Richard Thornton wrote: How do you know I did not read any docs? The fact is I did but I did not under stand that version#65 was not in fact the release found on the prepackaged disk. These are the very first lines of FAQ 5.1: There are three flavors of OpenBSD: -release: The version of OpenBSD shipped every six months on CD. -stable: Release, plus patches considered critical to security and reliability. -current: Where new development work is presently being done, and eventually, it will turn into the next release. And here, I'm left wondering how you missed that and am genuinely curious. Maybe it was in a non-obvious place, or how to correlate uname output to this was unclear? You still want to maintain that you have read it, or do you really have trouble understanding it? I did have some trouble finding this specific text. It's in section 5 - Building the System from Source. Not really the first place I'd look if I did an install and was dealing with packages. If you bought the official CD of the 5.0 release, as you claim, then what you installed from it is the 5.0 release. I was under the impression that he'd installed first, then sent money. Anyways, downloading from the website is not uncommon, even if you buy the CDs. He may have decided to download, because the CDs take some time to arrive... I'm sorry you got flamed. When I started using openbsd, I was amazed that I could use the manuals to look things up. All of the system is documented, the documentation is up-to-date, the FAQ tells what's important to get started. And we're proud of that. The documentation is the other stuff, the ports and the code. If they malfunction, it's a bug that needs to be fixed. Most bugs are found by users. But getting that into an actual fix requires feedback, which we don't get by flaming them into the next world! -- Ariane
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