Re: Default route not used when its out and in a a subnet scope
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dan Shechter dans...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All. I have noticed something regarding routing, and I want to make sure its the expected behavior. Lets say I have interface em0 with IP 10.1.1.10/24 and a default route of 10.1.1.1, then I change em0 IP to 10.1.1.10/31 then change it back to 10.1.1.10/24. I have noticed that my OBSD 5.0 does not use the default route. I see the default route in netstat -nr and in route show, but my machine is not using it. Then when I do : route del default route add default 1.1.1.1, my machine starts using the default route again. Is that normal and to be expected? Best regards, Dan The same behavior verified by some member of #openbsd, and he suggested posting some output. Thanks to tmux, I have a record of showing the routeing table right after changing the route from /31 to /24. And then after removing and adding the default route. Notice that the addresses in this output are using the 10.0.123.0/24network: ~$ netstat -r Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlags Refs Use Mtu Prio Iface default10.0.123.1 UGS160497 - 8 em0 10.0.123/24link#1 UC 20 - 4 em0 10.0.123.1 00:1e:52:f6:5a:1a UHLc 0 90 - 4 em0 10.0.123.1100:1b:63:cb:95:63 UHLc 1 1091 - 4 em0 10.0.124.202/31link#4 C 00 - 4 em3 loopback localhost UGRS 00 33196 8 lo0 localhost localhost UH 0 8736 33196 4 lo0 BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST localhost URS00 33196 8 lo0 Internet6: DestinationGatewayFlags Refs Use Mtu Prio Iface ::/104 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ::/96 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 localhost localhost UH140 33196 4 lo0 ::127.0.0.0/104localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ::224.0.0.0/100localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ::255.0.0.0/104localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 :::0.0.0.0/96 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 2002::/24 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 2002:7f00::/24 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 2002:e000::/20 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 2002:ff00::/24 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 fe80::/10 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 fe80::%em0/64 link#1 UC 00 - 4 em0 fe80::200:24ff:fec 00:00:24:ce:97:48 UHL00 - 4 lo0 fe80::%em1/64 link#2 UC 00 - 4 em1 fe80::200:24ff:fec 00:00:24:ce:97:49 UHL00 - 4 lo0 fe80::%em2/64 link#3 UC 00 - 4 em2 fe80::200:24ff:fec 00:00:24:ce:97:4a UHL00 - 4 lo0 fe80::%em3/64 link#4 C 00 - 4 em3 fe80::200:24ff:fec 00:00:24:ce:97:4b HL 00 - 4 lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0U 00 - 4 lo0 fe80::1%lo0link#6 UHL00 - 4 lo0 fec0::/10 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ff01::/16 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ff01::%em0/32 link#1 UC 00 - 4 em0 ff01::%em1/32 link#2 UC 00 - 4 em1 ff01::%em2/32 link#3 UC 00 - 4 em2 ff01::%em3/32 link#4 C 00 - 4 em3 ff01::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0UC 00 - 4 lo0 ff02::/16 localhost UGRS 00 - 8 lo0 ff02::%em0/32 link#1 UC 00 - 4 em0 ~$ sudo route delete default delete net default ~$ sudo route add default 10.0.123.1 add net default: gateway 10.0.123.1 ~$ route show Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlags Refs Use Mtu Prio Iface default10.0.123.1 UGS00 - 8 em0 10.0.123/24link#1 UC 20 - 4 em0 10.0.123.1 00:1e:52:f6:5a:1a UHLc 2 104 - 4 em0 10.0.123.1100:1b:63:cb:95:63 UHLc 1 1209 - 4 em0 10.0.124.202/31link#4 C 00 - 4 em3 loopback localhost UGRS 00 33196 8 lo0 localhost localhost UH 0 8736 33196 4
Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
- Original Message - From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org To: Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:32:21 PM Subject: Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise. i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd (if the hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the skills to go there myself. Wow. Dream on. It is a mess of firmware. You know nothing of our history? i know a bit of the history, sure. i know nothing of the raspberrypi firmware, however. :)
Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
- Original Message - From: corey clingo clinge...@gmail.com To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:05:17 PM Subject: Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com wrote: if you feel this is a tired and worn-out question, then please just move along. two systems on which i'm happily running openbsd on are: alix and mac mini. alix for firewalls/thin clients, and the mac mini can handle pretty much anything i throw at it. both are relatively cheap (new alix and used minis) and function well. in addition to firewalls/thin clients, my needs do not include anything high-performance or high-bandwidth - mostly infrastructure services such as dns/dhcp/web for small companies. so what i'm looking for is something small like (or smaller than) these two systems, and just as stable, while being cheaper. and i'm looking for recommendations, not just suggestions - if you haven't tried it and loved it, don't bother mentioning it. i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd (if the hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the skills to go there myself. Alixes are pretty cheap. Not Sheevaplug or RasberryPi cheap, but cheap for the capabilities they have. I mean, at the end of the day, your clients are relying on these devices for potentially business-critical services. How much do they really want to skimp? Personally I've lately been moving upmarket with this kind of device. You get better performance (e.g., faster CPUs, Intel GbE rather than Via, etc.), a more solid build, and I've never had to solder my own surface mount caps on one to fix a clock oscillator issue as I did with my home Soekris once :) All that said, one day when I retire and want to stretch my brain to keep from getting senile, I'll probably try to port OpenBSD to a couple of embedded-ish devices I currently use. The hardware is generally decent from the outside, but I can't help but believe they'd be better, faster, and more secure with OpenBSD than the iffy Linux+vendor enhancements that they typically come with. Corey is it safe to assume your upmarket devices meet the first two criteria, but are more expensive? i'm still interested in hearing your recommendation; most of my servers are much larger and more expensive than the alix solutions - having something in the middle could certainly be useful. thanks for your input.
Re: Starting out
On 2012-01-29, Pruttel pruttel...@googlemail.com wrote: Did not know that where do you find the guides to do something like that Sent from my iPod On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:02, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 07:47:25AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: I know that Open BSD is not really a desk top system. You're completely wrong here. There's even Gnome 3.2.1 and is running fine on i386/amd64 as far as I can tell from tests. I use scrotwm That is true and it also run fine on macppc :) -- Antoine Install a snapshot, pkg_add gnome, then follow the instructions in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/gnome-3* (the existence of this file is also mentioned when the pkg_add is done).
The use of DUID
Hi, I have a question, i read faq 14 - Disk Setup (DiskLabel Unique Identifiers) . It is a pretty feature. We can start OpenBSD OS from the disk put anywhere(order). But what's about after a dump/restore Boot in single user : backup the disk using 'dump -0af /mnt/root.dump /dev/wd0a' ... When we try to restore on a NEW DISK (WITH NEW SIZE) Boot in single user : restore using 'restore -rf /mnt/root.dump' Restore biosboot block... reboot to restore others partitions Need to do : mount -u -w / I have the following error : mount_ffs: .a on /: No such file or directory I suppose DUID is concerned. To avoid this, i need to modify /etc/fstab from /dev/wd0a remove DUID use and put the old (cf /dev/wd0a / ...) Now works... How to restore a disk using DUID ? keeping duid in /etc/fstab ? Thank you very much. Cheers, Wesley.
Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 08:24:49AM -0500, Dewey Hylton wrote: - Original Message - From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org To: Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:32:21 PM Subject: Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise. i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd (if the hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the skills to go there myself. Wow. Dream on. It is a mess of firmware. You know nothing of our history? i know a bit of the history, sure. i know nothing of the raspberrypi firmware, however. :) Well, people are clearly too busy raving about the price to ask the really hard questions. Is there documentation for the components on the Broadcom SoC? Afaik, there is _no_ documentation. We know it's supposed to be a weird architecture where the graphic core initializes the CPU and loads the loader from SD. We also know that the GPU requires a large blob in Linux. The Linux source is the only reference to the hardware. I have not looked (is it available already?) at it yet, maybe the Broadcom developers document it well. Or maybe they don't and just use magic numbers. In the case of OpenBSD, source code is not considered documentation! If all you have is the Linux source, you must implement it in pretty much the same way as Linux does. Including the bugs. That's not only extra hard, it's a huge waste of time, especially if there are better alternatives: There are tons of affordable ARM development boards out there whose makers publish mostly complete data sheets, errata and so on. Texas Instruments with the Beagleboard/Pandaboard is just one of them. (*) So, who should you reward, Broadcom with its anti-opensource attitude (while making decent amounts of money with billions of Linux routers) or companies who invest into making documentation available? PS: I'm ready to change my opinion about Broadcom by 1800, for just a couple of PDF uploads on their website... (*) Let me drive a nail in the RP coffin: It's an outdated (dead) ARM11 design, unlike what TI offers. Its only redeeming feature is the very fast GPU, which is very unlikely to ever work under OpenBSD, even if Broadcom would publish the SoC data sheet.
Dell Optiplex 790 NIC support (Intel, Broadcom)
I'm putting together a system to serve as a dedicated OpenBSD firewall. I want to know whether the network interfaces are supported by OpenBSD. The system I'm looking at is a Dell Optiplex 790. Here is what Dell's website has to say about the NICs in question: * On board: (LOM) Intel. Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Ethernet. * Second NIC: Broadcom 5722 NetXtreme 10/100/1000 PCIe Gigabit NIC Card, Full Height Unfortunately there are no model numbers. It looks like the em [1] and bnx [2] drivers might provide support. Is this likely? Thanks. -David [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=emarch=i386sektion=4 [2] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bnxarch=i386sektion=4
Re: Dell Optiplex 790 NIC support (Intel, Broadcom)
At 11:29:39.06 on 30-JAN-2012 in message CAC4i1z3yPmJOTUrvaXfsz=v8tkyarqqohs0ptdny04a6g7v...@mail.gmail.com, David Eisner deis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm putting together a system to serve as a dedicated OpenBSD firewall. I want to know whether the network interfaces are supported by OpenBSD. The system I'm looking at is a Dell Optiplex 790. Here is what Dell's website has to say about the NICs in question: * On board: (LOM) Intel. Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Ethernet. * Second NIC: Broadcom 5722 NetXtreme 10/100/1000 PCIe Gigabit NIC Card, Full Height Unfortunately there are no model numbers. It looks like the em [1] and bnx [2] drivers might provide support. Is this likely? Thanks. -David [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=emarch=i386sektion=4 [2] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bnxarch=i386sektion=4 According to Dell's documentation (at http://support.dell.com), the OptiPlex 790 LOM is an Intel 82579LM, specifically cited by em(4). I believe you've already identified the Broadcom model (i.e. BCM5722); it appears this is handled by bge(4): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bgearch=i386sektion=4 Regards, Mike
Re: The use of DUID
On 01/30/2012 11:10 AM, Wesley M. wrote: Hi, I have a question, i read faq 14 - Disk Setup (DiskLabel Unique Identifiers) . It is a pretty feature. We can start OpenBSD OS from the disk put anywhere(order). But what's about after a dump/restore Boot in single user : backup the disk using 'dump -0af /mnt/root.dump /dev/wd0a' ... How to restore a disk using DUID ? keeping duid in /etc/fstab ? Thank you very much. Cheers, Wesley. So, you want to restore a disk and magically have the duid of the new disk assume the old disk's value? I think you haven't thought this through. _You_ want to replace your existing disk, fine, it might be reasonable to have the same DUID magically restored to the replacement disk... But...what if that's not what you are doing? Maybe you want to use dump/restore to copy data to another part of your existing system? Maybe after you upgrade to your bigger disk, you want to put the old disk back on the same system... *DUID = Disklabel Unique I Dentifier.* if you do something where you change the DUID of a disk to make it convenient for you, it's no longer... (all together now, class) UNIQUE! If you are using DUIDs and you change your disk, you will be changing the fstab. That's how it works, that's how things stay...unique. This is not only a feature, not a bug, it is THE WHOLE IDEA. Note: there are a lot of places where DUIDs may be LESS convenient than simple device names. Keep your brain engaged, one solution does not fit all. There are also places where you may wish to mix DUIDs with conventional device names (for example, the root partition of a softraid mirror). Nick.
Re: The use of DUID
Thank you for your explanation. I understand better. On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:05:58 -0500, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: On 01/30/2012 11:10 AM, Wesley M. wrote: Hi, I have a question, i read faq 14 - Disk Setup (DiskLabel Unique Identifiers) . It is a pretty feature. We can start OpenBSD OS from the disk put anywhere(order). But what's about after a dump/restore Boot in single user : backup the disk using 'dump -0af /mnt/root.dump /dev/wd0a' ... How to restore a disk using DUID ? keeping duid in /etc/fstab ? Thank you very much. Cheers, Wesley. So, you want to restore a disk and magically have the duid of the new disk assume the old disk's value? I think you haven't thought this through. _You_ want to replace your existing disk, fine, it might be reasonable to have the same DUID magically restored to the replacement disk... But...what if that's not what you are doing? Maybe you want to use dump/restore to copy data to another part of your existing system? Maybe after you upgrade to your bigger disk, you want to put the old disk back on the same system... *DUID = Disklabel Unique I Dentifier.* if you do something where you change the DUID of a disk to make it convenient for you, it's no longer... (all together now, class) UNIQUE! If you are using DUIDs and you change your disk, you will be changing the fstab. That's how it works, that's how things stay...unique. This is not only a feature, not a bug, it is THE WHOLE IDEA. Note: there are a lot of places where DUIDs may be LESS convenient than simple device names. Keep your brain engaged, one solution does not fit all. There are also places where you may wish to mix DUIDs with conventional device names (for example, the root partition of a softraid mirror). Nick.
Re: Dell Optiplex 790 NIC support (Intel, Broadcom)
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Michael T. Davis dav...@ecr6.ohio-state.edu wrote: According to Dell's documentation (at http://support.dell.com), the OptiPlex 790 LOM is an Intel 82579LM, specifically cited by em(4). I believe you've already identified the Broadcom model (i.e. BCM5722); it appears this is handled by bge(4): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bgearch=i386sektion=4 Thanks, Mike. I had trouble finding the Intel model number, but I now see it is indeed available from support.dell.com (in the system manual). So it looks like this hardware is supported on OpenBSD, as you said. Thanks again. -David
Broadcom BCM43224 802.11 development?
I happen to have one of these, and am *considering* diving in to see if I can integrate this with bwi(4). If you're already working on this, or if you have worked on it in the the past, please let me know; I would hate to duplicate your efforts. While I have not yet begun scoping the technical requirements, a bit of Googling indicates that Broadcom made their applicable 802.11 Linux driver open source in September 2010. That may be a starting placeOr not. :) Thanks!
Re: iPad2 and iPhone4S USB messages
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011, Dave Anderson wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Brynet wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 09:30:44PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote: For the iPhone, yes, but evidently not for the iPad2. Yes, it will be a manual effort for as long as Apple releases new devices. If you want to use libusb ports (..like gphoto2), you'll need to add similars quirks for the iPad2. You didn't post the product ID. I assumed (perhaps foolishly) that this was already known since the device was recognized as 'Apple Inc. iPad rev 2.00/0.01'. And I don't _have_ the product ID anywhere I know of (other than by looking in the source). That is the product name obtained from the device itself, you'll need to add it to usbdevs and regen first. Patches for other iDevices are on the lists, it should be easy enough for you to find them in the archives. Each model has it's own product ID, AFAIK they're not published by Apple. Look at usbdevs(8), specifically the verbose option. Ungh. I think I was confusing what appears in the dmesg for PCI devices with what appears for USB devices. Apologies to all. I'll run usbdevs and report the product ID when I get the chance. There's no urgency from my side; I'm not trying to do anything with this (yet). Rather belatedly: # usbdevs -v Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x), Intel(0x8086), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, Rate Matching Hub(0x0024), Intel(0x8087), rev 0.00 port 1 addr 3: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, product 0x0018(0x0018), vendor 0x138a(0x138a), rev 0.78, iSerialNumber 723ca8ccb3ec port 2 addr 4: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, HP TrueVision HD(0xd281), S uYin (0x064e), rev 1.10, iSerialNumber HF1016-A821-OV011-VH-R01.01.00 port 3 powered port 4 powered port 5 powered port 6 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb1: addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x), Intel(0x8086), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, Rate Matching Hub(0x0024), Intel(0x8087), rev 0.00 port 1 addr 3: high speed, power 500 mA, config 2, iPad(0x129f), Apple Inc.(0x05ac), rev 0.01, iSerialNumber 0180f6af0eec5919c2d1b373dc8253afcabd1925 port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered port 5 powered port 6 powered port 2 powered # Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
Re: usb serial device (Atmel), only as ugen
Could you post the section from dmesg for this device, after the patch, please ? Thank you.
nut cgi-bin in apache chroot
hello misc. please help to understand how it work? I install nut and nut-cgi from pakages. nut work without any problem: # upsc eaton@localhost battery.charge: 100 battery.charge.low: 20 battery.runtime: 3216 device.mfr: MGE UPS SYSTEMS device.model: EX 2200 device.serial: AQ0L39022 driver.name: mge-shut ... input.frequency: 50 input.voltage: 227 ... ups.load: 11 .. ups.power.nominal: 2200 ups.serial: AQ0L39022 ups.status: OL CHRG .. but I can't set up web for it. I uncomment line in hosts.conf, and change line in upsset.conf to actual. also try any settings in httpd.conf, but result - upsstats.html shows formatted page with @HOSTLINK@, @VAR ups.model@ and other macros from upsstats.html instead of real parameter. what can be not right? --
Re: iPad2 and iPhone4S USB messages
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 03:52:42PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote: Rather belatedly: .. iPad(0x129f), Apple Inc.(0x05ac) ... Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com Okay.. so try this, run make in dev/usb before building. Index: uaudio.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/usb/uaudio.c,v retrieving revision 1.94 diff -u -p -u -r1.94 uaudio.c --- dev/usb/uaudio.c26 Jan 2012 09:00:36 - 1.94 +++ dev/usb/uaudio.c30 Jan 2012 23:25:23 - @@ -207,6 +207,10 @@ struct uaudio_devs { UAUDIO_FLAG_BAD_AUDIO }, { { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH_4G }, UAUDIO_FLAG_BAD_AUDIO }, + { { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPAD }, + UAUDIO_FLAG_BAD_AUDIO }, + { { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPAD2 }, + UAUDIO_FLAG_BAD_AUDIO }, { { USB_VENDOR_CREATIVE, USB_PRODUCT_CREATIVE_EMU0202 }, UAUDIO_FLAG_VENDOR_CLASS | UAUDIO_FLAG_EMU0202 | UAUDIO_FLAG_DEPENDENT }, Index: usb_quirks.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c,v retrieving revision 1.65 diff -u -p -u -r1.65 usb_quirks.c --- dev/usb/usb_quirks.c1 Dec 2011 23:02:12 - 1.65 +++ dev/usb/usb_quirks.c30 Jan 2012 23:25:23 - @@ -120,7 +120,9 @@ const struct usbd_quirk_entry { { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH_2G, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH_3G, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, - { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH_4G, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, + { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPOD_TOUCH_4G, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, + { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPAD, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, + { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_IPAD2, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, { USB_VENDOR_APPLE, USB_PRODUCT_APPLE_SPEAKERS, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, { USB_VENDOR_BELKIN, USB_PRODUCT_BELKIN_F6C100, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, { USB_VENDOR_BELKIN, USB_PRODUCT_BELKIN_F6C120, ANY,{ UQ_BAD_HID }}, Index: usbdevs === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs,v retrieving revision 1.570 diff -u -p -u -r1.570 usbdevs --- dev/usb/usbdevs 29 Jan 2012 10:59:23 - 1.570 +++ dev/usb/usbdevs 30 Jan 2012 23:25:24 - @@ -893,8 +893,10 @@ product APPLE IPOD_TOUCH_2G0x1293 iPod product APPLE IPHONE_3GS 0x1294 iPhone 3GS product APPLE IPHONE_4_GSM 0x1297 iPhone 4 GSM product APPLE IPOD_TOUCH_3G0x1299 iPod Touch 3G +product APPLE IPAD 0x129a iPad product APPLE IPHONE_4_CDMA0x129c iPhone 4 CDMA product APPLE IPOD_TOUCH_4G0x129e iPod Touch 4G +product APPLE IPAD20x129f iPad 2 product APPLE IPHONE_4S0x12a0 iPhone 4S product APPLE ETHERNET 0x1402 Ethernet A1277 product APPLE BLUETOOTH2 0x8205 Bluetooth
Re: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11 development?
Porting the v4 firmware driver from FreeBSD (bwn) would be a closer match. bwi really only covers the older chips. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:54:02PM +, Josh Grosse wrote: I happen to have one of these, and am *considering* diving in to see if I can integrate this with bwi(4). If you're already working on this, or if you have worked on it in the the past, please let me know; I would hate to duplicate your efforts. While I have not yet begun scoping the technical requirements, a bit of Googling indicates that Broadcom made their applicable 802.11 Linux driver open source in September 2010. That may be a starting placeOr not. :) Thanks!
Re: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11 development?
Hi. This is a very good and extremely wanted undertaking. And does anybody work on BCM4313? On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Jonathan Gray j...@jsg.id.au wrote: Porting the v4 firmware driver from FreeBSD (bwn) would be a closer match. B bwi really only covers the older chips. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:54:02PM +, Josh Grosse wrote: I happen to have one of these, and am *considering* diving in to see if I can integrate this with bwi(4). B If you're already working on this, or if you have worked on it in the the past, please let me know; I would hate to duplicate your efforts. While I have not yet begun scoping the technical requirements, a bit of Googling indicates that Broadcom made their applicable 802.11 Linux driver open source in September 2010. B That may be a starting placeOr not. :) Thanks! -- ### Coonardoo - PQP8P=P8QP:P0 Q QQP=Q / The Well In The Shadow / Le Puits Dans L'Ombre ###
Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Nick Holland wrote: On 01/28/12 09:12, Dave Anderson wrote: Thanks for the info. I've been using -Pd because http://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.html says to use them; I haven't yet had a chance to look into how cvs works beyond reading the man page, faq, etc. and please continue to use them. -Pd is the RIGHT way. I plan to. Dropping them felt kind of iffy; thanks for the confirmation that it isn't the way to go. Apparently, Philip gets away with it, but he's a developer and he knows this stuff pretty well, we don't expect ordinary users to clean up the mess it can make. I'll defer to his expertise on coding and probably CVS, but there are many things in many parts of the tree where a lack of a -Pd will hurt you in ways other than slow updates. There are thousands of ways to use cvs incorrectly, -Pd is the correct way to do updates (or maybe -PAd under some circumstances). And none of this has anything to do with your real problem. I run far slower hardware than most people, and xenocara updates don't take nine hours (and if I understand you, that was nine hours then you gave up and killed it). This has NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMAND LINE OPTIONS. I wrote the FAQ you used, I use that FAQ, and I do it on hardware like mac68k and sparc, and it works, it does not take nine hours to update xenocara (it just feels like it...) No, it was about 9 hours from issuing the cvs update command until there was any visible action; the update ran to completion in a total of about 11 hours. I've killed some other update attempts which ran even longer without any visible action. If you could...next time you see this, use a CVSROOT=anon...@obsd.cec.mtu.edu:/cvs and see if things run better. NOTE: DO NOT GET USED TO USING THIS MIRROR, IT IS BEING SHUT DOWN VERY SOON. But, being it's been being advertised as being shut down, it's pretty lightly loaded, and it handles the CVS temp directory as an mfs, which really really helps (this is on the server end. Nothing you can do about it on your side). My hunch, as a soon-to-be former mirror operator is that you are having a problem with your mirror of choice, not a problem on your end, and it may be a problem with multiple mirrors. I've tried 3 or 4 different servers, and have had this problem with all of them (at least some of the time). I just checked out xenocara from that mirror, and then did an update on my amd64 system, the update took less than one minute. Your results will vary, but not to nine hours, unless you are using dialup. :) I do have a slowish ADSL link (384Kbps/1536Kbps) which would limit me to very roughly 1MB/min outbound, so I took advice to use '-z 9' to compress data and that reduced the total time for a xenocara source tree update from about 11 hours to about 2.5 hours. (Though I discovered that not all servers support compression.) Then I did a test update of xenocara against your server (still using -z 9), and the entire process took barely 1 minute. I then retried that upgrade against the server I've been using (anoncvs.comstyle.com), and the total time was just under 3 minutes. As a final (for the moment) test I did (against my usual server and with -z 9) an update of my entire source tree and the total times were src: 7:37, xenocara: 3:55, ports: 41:58, and www: 2:39 -- for a total of about 55 minutes. I've no idea why I'm suddenly getting so much faster responses. Does cvs update send a potentially large but extremely variable amount of data from my system to the server? If so, that (plus my slowish uplink) might explain some of these timings. But the cause of these massive variations is not at all obvious from where I sit. Thanks for any further info. Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
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warning message during boot, DHCP and no connections
I am running 3 OpenBSD computers in a home (labotary) environment network. I learn as a go (no pressure) and I am having fun. I have time on my hands, so my objective is to build confidence in solving the issues I encounter. My setup looks like this. One Supermicro gateway with 3 nics, one going Internet, one going Intranet and one for the DMZ server. This gateway offers DHCP services for all my Intranet (24 ports) as well as providing rudimentary PF for now. One D510M light server having a memory stick (8G) for the whole operating system and a very small hard disk drive (40G) on the side for the data I want to save. This server offers NFS, exports a directory for back-up purposes and allows mounting CDROM. At less than 5$, I can afford to buy 2 memory sticks (gateway + server) every 6 months and load a freshly OpenBSD release from a purchased CD. I never recycle memory sticks. I can always fall back one version in case I make an installation mistake. Usually a finger configurong problem files, like typing flag instead of flags. The third machine is a portable Sony VAIO Notebook VPCM111AX with a dual boot (OpenBSD and Macrohard). It is a gift from my wife and I am compelled to use it. I did the OpenBSD installation on the portable via DHCP gateway pxeboot, mounting the CD from the server. Piece of cake when you read and re-read FAQ. All 3 machines always run with latest release (version 5.0 amd64) and applicable patches (only one so far). The trio works marval allowing me to experiment on a daily basis. From time to time, I bring my portable to the local library where I load data I find interesting. I take pleasure to confuse people with my OpenBSD text mode solving sudoku and crosswords. They always give me this bizarre look as if I was hacking something. Back home I dump whatever I find of importance on the server. One day I will VPN directly from the library, but I am not there yet. I did not re-read the man pages often enough. The days I am in the library, I notice at boot time an unusual message right after the network deamon starts. Because I have no internet connections in the library, I suspect the nic gets confuse when the dhclient kicks in with a dead connection. Anyway the message is as follow: splassert: assertwaitok want -1 have 1 If I may ask a question: would going -current on the portable going to solve the issue when a nic is configured DHCP with a dead connection? All I need as an answer is a simple yes or no. I will survive until the next release. My data is not corrupted and everything is under control as far as I can tell. Keep the good work. I am counting for the OpenBSD project to live forever. Cheers. Pix
Re: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11 development?
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:39:03AM +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: Porting the v4 firmware driver from FreeBSD (bwn) would be a closer match. bwi really only covers the older chips. Thank you for the recommendation! I will take a look at both FreeBSD's code as well as Broadcom's.
Re: usb serial device (Atmel), only as ugen
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 07:11:22PM +0100, LEVAI Daniel wrote: On v, jan 29, 2012 at 20:40:35 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 08:27:16AM +0100, LEVAI Daniel wrote: Hi! I'm trying to use an USB serial device with qemu on a OpenBSD host and a winxp guest. I presume the first step would be to recognize this device under OpenBSD as some kind of ucom(4). Currently this is printed in dmesg when I plug in the stuff: ugen1 at uhub1 port 2 Atmel E85 USB Serial rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 Eventually I would like to use cu(1) or minicom thru a /dev/cuaU? device. The vendor_id:product_id is 03eb:6119. Is it possible to somehow use/probe the existing usb serial drivers to see if it attaches/works with one of them? It is apparently CDC compliant, so try this: Thank you very much! It is working perfectly. It will be the icing on the cake if I can setup qemu to somehow utilize this device... but that will another issue. Now I can access and configure my car's bio-ethanol fuel converter with OpenBSD (and I'm not forced to use its win* GUI). Thanks again, Daniel Can you try the following? It would be interesting to know why it doesn't match the class test. Index: sys/dev/usb/umodem.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/usb/umodem.c,v retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -p -r1.44 umodem.c --- sys/dev/usb/umodem.c3 Jul 2011 15:47:17 - 1.44 +++ sys/dev/usb/umodem.c31 Jan 2012 02:35:49 - @@ -226,6 +226,11 @@ umodem_match(struct device *parent, void return (ret); ret = UMATCH_NONE; + + if (UGETW(dd-idVendor) == USB_VENDOR_ATMEL + UGETW(dd-idProduct) == 0x6119) + ret = UMATCH_VENDOR_PRODUCT; + if (UGETW(dd-idVendor) == USB_VENDOR_KYOCERA UGETW(dd-idProduct) == USB_PRODUCT_KYOCERA_AHK3001V id-bInterfaceNumber == 0) @@ -236,6 +241,9 @@ umodem_match(struct device *parent, void id-bInterfaceSubClass == UISUBCLASS_ABSTRACT_CONTROL_MODEL id-bInterfaceProtocol == UIPROTO_CDC_AT) ret = UMATCH_IFACECLASS_IFACESUBCLASS_IFACEPROTO; + + printf(class 0x%x subclass 0x%x protocol 0x%x\n, id-bInterfaceClass, + id-bInterfaceSubClass, id-bInterfaceProtocol); if (ret == UMATCH_NONE) return (ret);
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Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: corey clingo clinge...@gmail.com To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:05:17 PM Subject: Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dewey Hylton dewey.hyl...@gmail.com wrote: if you feel this is a tired and worn-out question, then please just move along. two systems on which i'm happily running openbsd on are: alix and mac mini. alix for firewalls/thin clients, and the mac mini can handle pretty much anything i throw at it. both are relatively cheap (new alix and used minis) and function well. in addition to firewalls/thin clients, my needs do not include anything high-performance or high-bandwidth - mostly infrastructure services such as dns/dhcp/web for small companies. so what i'm looking for is something small like (or smaller than) these two systems, and just as stable, while being cheaper. and i'm looking for recommendations, not just suggestions - if you haven't tried it and loved it, don't bother mentioning it. i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd (if the hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the skills to go there myself. Alixes are pretty cheap. Not Sheevaplug or RasberryPi cheap, but cheap for the capabilities they have. I mean, at the end of the day, your clients are relying on these devices for potentially business-critical services. How much do they really want to skimp? Personally I've lately been moving upmarket with this kind of device. You get better performance (e.g., faster CPUs, Intel GbE rather than Via, etc.), a more solid build, and I've never had to solder my own surface mount caps on one to fix a clock oscillator issue as I did with my home Soekris once :) All that said, one day when I retire and want to stretch my brain to keep from getting senile, I'll probably try to port OpenBSD to a couple of embedded-ish devices I currently use. The hardware is generally decent from the outside, but I can't help but believe they'd be better, faster, and more secure with OpenBSD than the iffy Linux+vendor enhancements that they typically come with. Corey is it safe to assume your upmarket devices meet the first two criteria, but are more expensive? i'm still interested in hearing your recommendation; most of my servers are much larger and more expensive than the alix solutions - having something in the middle could certainly be useful. thanks for your input. Yes, more expensive. I use mine in an industrial environment, so I was looking for something fanless and (preferably) totally enclosed. To be honest, I'm still investigating, but I bought a couple of Netgate Hamakuas (which appear to be rebadged Lanner FW7520s) and, after some futzing with them to get the BIOS serial console working, I like them. 5 Intel Ethernet (4 are Gb I think), Celeron CPU, SSD for about $600 US. Logic Supply has a pretty good selection of this sort of hardware as well. If you don't need the environmental exclusion case, I recall reading some good reviews of reasonably-priced Supermicro Atom-based systems on this list - low power but they seem to look and feel like real servers (even have IPMI and such). Still probably more expensive than Alix, though.
Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
If someone is considering doing openbsd ports for raspberry pi devices, they might want to look at freebsd as a starting point, instead of linux. But it doesn't look that great, lots of undocumented crap with pi: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2011-November/036754.html I don't know what happened ultimately with freebsd and raspberry pi, that is an old post from 2011 so it could be more progress or not.
Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Lars nore...@z505.com wrote: If someone is considering doing openbsd ports for raspberry pi devices, they might want to look at freebsd as a starting point, instead of linux. But it doesn't look that great, lots of undocumented crap with pi: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2011-November/036754.html I don't know what happened ultimately with freebsd and raspberry pi, that is an old post from 2011 so it could be more progress or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi It's called viral marketing, PR, social crap whatever. Raspberry Pi foundation claims something about support for schools and blahblahblah, but in fact was created but one of engineers of Broadcom. It's just test bed for their proprietary crap or vendor lock in via children and a way how to lower taxes via charity organization without real charity.