Re: lcamtuf on the recent xz debacle

[Eric S Pulley]

I says quite clearly in the second article you posted it can only work
in Linux... 

"...Linux distributions add a patch to link sshd to systemd, a program
that loads a variety of services during the system bootup. Systemd, in
turn, links to liblzma, and this allows xz Utils to exert control over
sshd."

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ESP

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 21:17:18 +
Katherine Mcmillan  wrote:

> Hello Peter and all,
> 
> I have seen the following comment, or similar, in several articles
> now: "On Friday, a lone Microsoft developer rocked the world when he
> revealed a
> backdoor
> had been intentionally planted in xz Utils, an open source data
> compression utility available on almost all installations of Linux
> and other Unix-like operating systems."
> https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/
> 
> There are a couple of problems with this statement, but I just want
> to focus in on the "almost all installations of Linux and other
> Unix-like operating systems" part.  From my understanding, it is
> certainly almost all installations of Linux​, but the "and other
> Unix-like operating systems" doesn't seem founded.  From what I
> understand, this backdoor would not affect any flavour of *BSD, or of
> illumos for that matter (ex. smartOS), or QNX, or Solaris.  Just for
> clarity, does anyone know what "Unix-like operating systems" would be
> affected by this?
> 
> Thank you,
> Katie
> 
> 
> From: owner-m...@openbsd.org  on behalf of
> Aaron Mason  Sent: 03 April 2024 19:17
> To: misc@openbsd.org 
> Subject: Re: lcamtuf on the recent xz debacle
> 
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 9:32 PM Peter N. M. Hansteen
>  wrote:
> >
> > "This dependency existed not because of a deliberate design decision
> > by the developers of OpenSSH, but because of a kludge added by some
> > Linux distributions to integrate the tool with the operating
> > system’s newfangled orchestration service, systemd."
> >  
> 
> As if I needed another reason to intensely dislike systemd...
> 
> --
> Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict
> I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
> 

Re: Having a problem with ldomctl

[Eric S Pulley]

Circling back around replying to my own issue in the off chance that
someone else ran into this problem and this helps them out. Think it's
probably a pretty edge case though not too many folks seem to be running
Sun's anymore.

I was able to dump the contents of the NVRAM by booting of an older
version of OpenBSD. In my case I went clear back to 5.3 because that
was just a CD I had. When I get more time maybe I'll figure out where
the functionality breaks and see if I can fix it or at least provide
a clear bug report.

But for now, once I had the 3 files that ldomctl dump produces I saved
them off and loaded 6.2. I was then able to create and load my own ldom
config into NVRAM. Happy to say I now have a few T5120's that are
running 8 ldoms each. (8x8 cpuxram).

Should now get a couple more years life out of these expensive wind
tunnels.


On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:04:42 -0700
Eric S Pulley <pul...@dabus.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to breath some life into some Sun T5120's that no longer
> have oracle support for by switching them to OpenBSD6.2.
> 
> The issue I'm having is when I go to dump the contents of the
> NVRAM config into the current working directory to copy for my new
> config, the ldomctl dump command never completes.
> 
> I don't know what the expected behavior is as I've never run OpenBSD
> as the primary domain before. However after letting ldomctl dump run
> for over an hour all I have is one file and the process is still
> running:
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  23168 Dec  1 18:37 hv.md
> 
> I've tried running ldomd in the foreground to see if there is any sort
> of error but it seems to all be running okay. Before I cleared the
> system of all my old LDOMs ldomctl was seeing them fine and was able
> to access them.
> 
> Can anyone who has run this before tell me if ldomctl dump just takes
> a really long time or possibly shed some light on where I have gone
> wrong?
> 
> As a side note OpenBSD runs beautifully on these hosts in an ldom. I
> have had zero issues. Just trying to stop using Solaris all together
> now.

Having a problem with ldomctl

[Eric S Pulley]

Hello,

I'm trying to breath some life into some Sun T5120's that no longer
have oracle support for by switching them to OpenBSD6.2.

The issue I'm having is when I go to dump the contents of the
NVRAM config into the current working directory to copy for my new
config, the ldomctl dump command never completes.

I don't know what the expected behavior is as I've never run OpenBSD as
the primary domain before. However after letting ldomctl dump run for
over an hour all I have is one file and the process is still running:

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  23168 Dec  1 18:37 hv.md

I've tried running ldomd in the foreground to see if there is any sort
of error but it seems to all be running okay. Before I cleared the
system of all my old LDOMs ldomctl was seeing them fine and was able to
access them.

Can anyone who has run this before tell me if ldomctl dump just takes a
really long time or possibly shed some light on where I have gone wrong?

As a side note OpenBSD runs beautifully on these hosts in an ldom. I
have had zero issues. Just trying to stop using Solaris all together
now.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Massive amount of system info follows:

from the service processor:
hypervisor_version = Hypervisor 1.10.7.g 2014/07/10 11:46
obp_version = OpenBoot 4.33.6.f 2014/07/10 10:23
post_version = POST 4.33.6.f 2014/07/10 10:32
sysfw_version = Sun System Firmware 7.4.8.a 2014/10/12 09:186.2

Dmesg:
console is /virtual-devices@100/console@1
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights
reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2017 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.
https://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 6.2 (GENERIC.MP) #303: Tue Oct  3 22:46:49 MDT 2017
dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 68585259008 (65408MB)
avail mem = 67371524096 (64250MB)
warning: no entropy supplied by boot loader
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root: SPARC Enterprise T5120
cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu2 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu3 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu4 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu5 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu6 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu7 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu8 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu9 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu10 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu11 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu12 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu13 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu14 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu15 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu16 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu17 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu18 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu19 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu20 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu21 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu22 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu23 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu24 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu25 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu26 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu27 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu28 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu29 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu30 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu31 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu32 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu33 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu34 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu35 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu36 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu37 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu38 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu39 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu40 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu41 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu42 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu43 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu44 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu45 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu46 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T2 (rev 0.0) @ 1415.103 MHz
cpu47 at 

Re: Sunfire v120 question

[Eric S Pulley]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:26:39 + (UTC)
Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:

 On 2015-03-21, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Brian McCafferty wrote:
  Just a serial cable, then you can use tip(1).  The connections and
  other info are in the V120 user guide which you can download from
  Oracle.  Get a usb-serial adapter if you don't have a serial port
  on the machine you're trying to connect to it.
  well not just a serial cable, but you need to have a RJ45 at one
  end. It is a plain ol' RS232 but with an unusual connector. You
  need an adapter for these, you can do one yourself if you have the
  tweezers to crimp the LAN cables.
 
 These are normally made with a de9-rj45 modular connector like
 startech gc98ff, these don't need tools.
 
 You can also get all-in-one usb to rj45-rs232 adapters now, search
 ebay for ftdi rj45. Most say they're for Cisco, IIRC the Sun pinout
 is the same but either confirm that for yourself or
 look
 for one that specifically says Sun.
 

I have a v120 and can confirm that the Cisco DB9-RJ45 indeed works like
a champ. There is also a pretty common DB9 to RJ45 adapter that lets
you use a standard patch cable. These are silver and came with every
sun box sold with the RJ45 serial ports for a number of years. If you
can't find one laying around someplace eBay has lots

This link:

http://www.clausconrad.com/blog/how-to-build-a-db9-to-rj45-serial-cable

Will show you how to correctly build one from one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Serial-adapter-DB-9-RJ-45/dp/B6IRQA/ref=sr_1_4/176-9094087-5269865?ie=UTF8qid=1427045870sr=8-4keywords=serial+to+rj45+adapter

Or just buy a cable if you don't want to mess around:

http://www.amazon.com/Generic-7-Cisco-Console-RJ45-to-DB9/dp/B000GL3MOY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1427045964sr=8-2keywords=serial+to+rj45+adapter

Happy SPARCing

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Re: Sparc t5120 firmware problem

[Eric S Pulley]

On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 23:21:25 +0100
Stefan Johansson texas.johans...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I have a Sun Sparc t5120 that cannot start ldomd after a firmware
 upgrade. It’s possible to start ldomd before I have divided the
 machine into several guest domains. Afterwards it just hangs when
 trying to start ldomd and the machine is unresponsive (answers on
 ping though). Ldomd does not give any error messages.


I've got almost the same hardware as you but I show a slightly
newer version of the sysfw:

Properties:
...
hypervisor_version = Hypervisor 1.10.7.g 2014/07/10 11:46
macaddress = 00:21:28:16:2d:a8
maxbootfail = 3
obp_version = OpenBoot 4.33.6.f 2014/07/10 10:23
post_version = POST 4.33.6.f 2014/07/10 10:32
send_break_action = (Cannot show property)
status = Solaris running
sysfw_version = Sun System Firmware 7.4.8.a 2014/10/12 09:18

Getting older versions of the firmware without a support contract is a
pain... But I'll try tomorrow for you. Do you know what version you
where at before you upgraded? How old you want to try? 

Don't read too much into the fact that mine is working fine since I'm
running slowaris on the cdom with OpenBSD-stable in ldoms so it's
probably apples and oranges. The three OpenBSD ldoms I run are all
working fabulously though (Thanks everyone that worked on the sun4v
stuff).

Up until now how has OpenBSD been doing for the primary? I'd love to
ditch Solaris there too but I've got a large NAS hanging off this
box and I rather like managing it with zfs.

Re: UEFI

[Eric S Pulley]

 because you are all asking for trivia:

 This is a ASUS N76V

 Bullshit.  That is not trivia.  That's the important bit.


Okay now that we know what model you have. I can tell you that it has a
legacy mode and boots OpenBSD just fine in that mode. You said that you
want to keep the recovery stuff from ASUS and that presumably is why you
want the laptop to remain using UEFI (I dont understand this but that's
your choice). So simple solution, remove the HD that the laptop shipped
with and throw it in a drawer to save. Put in a new 7200rpm drive and
switch it over to legacy. Far better to spend the 100ish bucks on a HD
then waste your time dealing with the UEFI crap.

The laptop has other major issues with the hybrid Intel/Nvidia graphics
though... I had one and got rid of it since it only played nice with
Windows 8 and sorta put up with Linux.

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Re: UEFI secure boot and dual boot question

[Eric S Pulley]

 Hello list,

 Has anyone managed to set dual boot on an UEFI box with secure boot left
 enabled? If the answer is yes, are there some instructions how to achieve
 that?

 I am trying to install -current on a Lenovo Y400 notebook, leaving
 pre-installed windows 8 intact, as per the wishes of the owner of the box.

 Thanks in advance for your responses


Well if it's like my Y400 you wont have a supported network driver for
wired or wireless. Only way around that is to replace the built in
wireless mini-pci card. However, the BIOS has a hardware whitelist that is
still on even when the secure boot crap is off... The laptop will not boot
if it detects hardware not in the whitelist. So basically if you want to
use it with anything other than windblows 8 you have to install the hacked
BIOS you can find on the web for these laptops... On a good note, this
allows you to access hardware virtualization (it is disabled in the
factory BIOS).

Sorry, just a sad note on the future of crappy preparatory BS that is
going to happen with UEFI. My advice: Boycott manufactures that wont let
you do what you want with equipment that you purchase. Hopefully there
will still be some in a few years.

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Re: UEFI secure boot and dual boot question

[Eric S Pulley]

 Hello list,

 Has anyone managed to set dual boot on an UEFI box with secure boot
 left
 enabled? If the answer is yes, are there some instructions how to
 achieve
 that?

 I am trying to install -current on a Lenovo Y400 notebook, leaving
 pre-installed windows 8 intact, as per the wishes of the owner of the
 box.

 Thanks in advance for your responses



Just realized I didn't actually answer the question you asked. The answer
is No; or I have yet to find a way. There are people working on it for
FreeBSD https://wiki.freebsd.org/SecureBoot but as you will see they have
not got very far. Windows 8 will boot with secure boot off -- at lease on
x86 platforms for now. So I'd tell the owner to just shut it off. I don't
think I had to do anything to the already installed Windows 8 to switch it
on and off. Swap out or copy the HD and test if you are worried since
Lenovo doesn't provide media or an easy way to reinstall if you hose the
drive. I bought a second HD and threw the Windows 8 drive in a box in case
I get rid of the thing down the road.

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Re: Why does OpenBSD use CVS?

[Eric S Pulley]

 On 2013-04-20, Alokat MacMoneysack mail...@alokat.org wrote:
 Hi,

 first, I don't want to start a flame war about why is CVS better or not
 better than X - it's just a question.

 If you say, we use it because it just works - it's okay. :)

 So why does OpenBSD still uses CVS and don't migrate to SVN or something
 like git as other OSS projekts do?

 Regards,
 fritjof



 my 2p: like all version control software CVS has bugs, but between us,
 developers have a reasonable idea of how to avoid them in CVS, there's
 less knowledge about other version control systems.

 Also having the repository stored in human-readable (ish) files is an
 advantage if there was ever any repo corruption.

 You might also ask why some other OS use source control software which
 they don't even include in the base OS ;-)


Amen. The fact that I now have to install subversion and all its bloat
dependencies to do anything in the other BSD I use will me making it so I
now do a lot more with OpenBSD.

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Re: Pre-orders for 5.3

[Eric S Pulley]

 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Chris Hettrick
 ch...@populatealltheresistors.com wrote:
 A Ridley Scott pastiche, ala Blade Runner?


 This is Blader Runner. No doubt.

 --
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Yep it sure is... and its awesome. Ordered


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Re: Millions of files in /var/www inode / out of space issue.

[Eric S Pulley]

 On 02/19/13 05:47, MJ wrote:
 Which app are you running that is generating millions of tiny files
 in a single directory?  Regardless, in this case OpenBSD is not the
 right tool for the job. You need either FreeBSD or a Solaris variant
 to handle this problem because you need ZFS.


 What limits does ZFS have? ---
 The limitations of ZFS are designed to be so large that they will
 never be encountered in any practical operation. ZFS can store 16
 Exabytes in each storage pool, file system, file, or file attribute.
 ZFS can store billions of names: files or directories in a directory,
 file systems in a file system, or snapshots of a file system. ZFS can
 store trillions of items: files in a file system, file systems,
 volumes, or snapshots in a pool.


 I'm not sure why ZFS hasn't yet been ported to OpenBSD, but if it
 were then that would pretty much eliminate the need for my one and
 only FreeBSD box ;-)

 The usual stated reason is license, it is completely unacceptable to
 OpenBSD.

 The other reason usually not given which I suspect would become obvious
 were the license not an instant non-starter is the nature of ZFS.  As it
 is a major memory hog, it works well only on loaded 64 bit platforms.
 Since most of our 64 bit platforms are older, and Alpha and SGI machines
 with many gigabytes of memory are rare, you are probably talking an
 amd64 and maybe some sparc64 systems.

 Also...see the number of ZFS Tuning Guides out there.  How...1980s.
 The OP here has a special case use, but virtually all ZFS uses involve
 knob twisting and experimentation, which is about as anti-OpenBSD as you
 can get.  Granted, there are a lot of people who love knob-twisting, but
 that's not what OpenBSD is about.

 I use ZFS, and have a few ZFS systems in production, and what it does is
 pretty amazing, but mostly in the sense of the gigabytes of RAM it
 consumes for basic operation (and unexplained file system wedging).
 I've usually seen it used as a way to avoid good system design.  Yes,
 huge file systems can be useful, but usually in papering over basic
 design flaws.

 Nick.



I feel anyone expecting to run any of the recently hatched filesystem on
10+ year old hardware falls into the design flaw category you mention. As
for needing to turn nobs to get it to work properly this is not necessary
if you use a modern 64bit box. Most of the tuning guides are written for
the guys trying to use it on their old hardware. Or trying to reach
performance numbers for whatever, usually misguided, reason. On a modern
amd64 box it pretty much just works.

As for a port to OpenBSD I'd love it, or port of LVM, but the biggest
hurdle IMO is the same one that plagues so many other good potential
OpenBSD ports. Getting someone competent and dedicated enough to do the
work.

I'm neither of those two things when it comes to porting, so I can only
blame myself that I'm using FreeBSD on my file server and desktop instead
of Open as I'd really like. However, I still have deep reservations about
trusting ZFS long term since Oracle closed it off to the community again.
I don't feel FreeBSD will be able to truly maintain the port over time. I
hope I'm wrong but we will see. So it may be for the best that Open
doesn't waste too much time on it.

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Thank you OpenBSD

[Eric S Pulley]

I'd just like to take a moment to thank everyone involved in releases of
OpenBSD for having a nice clear and concise  release schedule and version
system. It's fantastic.

I use FreeBSD on my file-server to take advantage of ZFS and all their
convoluted versions/branches are just... a pain.

So thank you all for keeping it simple, clean and efficient.

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Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

[Eric S Pulley]

On Tue, June 21, 2011 5:39 pm, vadi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm considering migrating my desktop from Linux to OpenBSD but the
 main feature that
 kept me away from *BSD world for over a decade since I've first tried
 FreeBSD was the
 one that options must only be specified after command before any
 arguments. (At least
 that is true for basic commands). For example on Linux a command

   ls -l foo -h

 will print the foo's size with suffix (K, M, G, etc.). On *BSD
 (including Mac OS X) I get error
 message:

   ls: -h: No such file or directory

 Is there an easy way to get the desired behavior on OpenBSD? If that
 can only be achieved
 by patching system's sources is there a standard way to maintain my
 personal set of
 patches so that they will be automatically applied every time I upgrade
 system?

 Best regards,
 Vadim.



To answer your question:
No
Not even in Linux
From the GNU ls man page:

SYNOPSIS
   ls [OPTION]... [FILE]...

Your use of the tool is incorrect. You *can* hit your hand with a hammer
but that's not what it's for...

Now can we all move on? Or do we now discuses the merits of claw vs.
ball-peen hammers for hand smashing?

Re: The choice was: Sun V20z. And Now?

[Eric S Pulley]

On Wed, November 17, 2010 9:43 am, Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've asked sometime ago about an Architeture Choose Ok, I've choose
 the Sun Fire V20z (2xAMD Opteron).

 As someone said, the fans are really loud... I've seen some articles about
 upgrading the BIOS can reduce the fans...
 BUT, when trying to download the latest firmware upgrade from Sun's
 website,
 no success.

 Anyone have this files?

 Thanks!

Even if you get the file it wont fix what your hoping for. If anything I
think the newer firmwares have higher fan rpm settings... Basically you
looking at 2 realistic settings with this system. Really loud while the OS
is running and insanely loud when its powering up/down under only the
SP/BIOS control. That's just the way they are.

Re: Architeture Choose

[Eric S Pulley]

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 23:47 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: 
 * Scott Stanley amorphous.yet@gmail.com [2010-11-09 16:58]:
  I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
  you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?
 
 avoid at all cost
 
  Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
  server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
  Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
  not real world stuff).
 
 the v20z is not really sun, that is newisys. might actually be usable.
 
 all real sun amd64/i386 gear i had my hands on over the previous years
 was horrible. and that is mostly due to the management processors
 being so incredibly bad. and you can't even turn it off on at least
 some systems.


Unfortunately on the latest batch I've worked with I have to concur. I
have about 150 SunFire X4400 and X2100 series system (they use Xenon not
AMD, at least on the 4400) and they just plan suck. Fan indicator/PS
failure lights on all the time and at least one memory problem on almost
every system. I've come to the conclusion that most of these problems
are with the embedded Linux service processor screwing up and reporting
an error that may or may no exist. On top of that, I had about 20 of
these service processors just flat out fail (entire logic board
replacement). Everything on these systems depend on the SP working even
the on off switch...  Oh and to save money or something the cd drive in
these things are attached to a USB bus and it doesn't appear to be
v2.0... slow as hell and the internal connector fails all the time.

They are also subcontracted out to some other manufacturer for Sun...
can't remember what one. Run far away from these systems.

Re: Architeture Choose

[Eric S Pulley]

On Tue, November 9, 2010 8:55 am, Scott Stanley wrote:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

 When using the I'm only referring to Sparc disclaimer, what's being
 implied here (because I know nobody's saying that hardware fails
 because of the CPU type, or am I wrong on that)?

 Is it that Sparc boxes are for mission critical apps, and so let's
 use only the best hardware?

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).


I've been using a V20z as my mail/webserver for about 4-5 years now...
absolutely fantastic OpenBSD platform... Everything supported and although
the processors are dated they are awesome for my workloads. Wish I had
about 4 more. Sorry for the lake of hard data...

Re: Architeture Choose

[Eric S Pulley]

--On November 5, 2010 9:47:20 AM -0300 Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira 
fem...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi All,

I'm long time far from OpenBSD world, but planning to come back.
The plan is to buy an old machine, but, maybe try an new platform, if the
investment worths...

I have these options, all in the same price range:

A) Sun Fire V100 UltraSPARC IIi 650 Mhz - 2x160Gb Hd - 2Gb RAM - CDROM -
US$ 350

B) Apple Power PC G4 733 Mhz - 768 Gb RAM - 38Gb HD - US$ 320,00

C) Atlhon 64 X2 +5200, 2 GB RAM, 160Gb HD - US$ 320,00

The idea is to build an server with: WWW/Email/Firewall funcionalities,
with better stablity as possible.

I don't think that I will need to upgrade for an period, but pieces that
have mechanical components (Hd, cooler) may be a problem, if they are
platform-exclusive...

Thanks for any help, and sorry for any mistake in my English..


Most of the time I would say go with the Sun server for relatively trouble 
free computing. However the v100 has no PCI expandability and only a pretty 
wimpy IDE bus. So if you want to upgrade to GigE or add more disk you are 
SOL. If you can get your hands on a v120 its almost the same system but 
with a internal/external SCSI bus and one expansion port. (down side to 
this is the 2 internal SCSI drives are pricey to replace) These servers are 
great headless firewall/light application servers. And the LOM port is 
wonderful if you happen to have a digi or other serial port server. Parts 
(other than disk) are more money than the system is worth usually...


The Mac G4: to many headaches IMO (I have 3 or four collecting dust now 
400-1.3g). but parts are cheap as long as its no the PS, CPU or logic board 
(most of the system). I've lost the GigE port on the logic board on 2 of my 
systems, real pain.


Atlhon: cheap easy to get parts, upgrade to some degree... great if you 
love to tinker.


And $320 seems very pricey to me for any of theses systems.

Re: Silent boot?

[Eric S Pulley]

--On Tuesday, July 06, 2010 02:43:42 +0400 Ilya Ilembitov 
ilembi...@gmail.com wrote:



Just ran across this post about
NetBSD:http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/bx/blosxom.cgi/nb_20100430_2300.html

Turns out, they have a special boottime option that lets the OS boot
(almost) without any messages. Which I found even more appealing that
some graphical bootsplash images. Does OpenBSD have anything like
that? Google left me with nothing. What if I am running the same
stable release of OpenBSD on my box for a month and don't need any
verbosity, since I don't change anything (so the system is unlikely to
fail)? Also, what can be done for redirecting the dmesg output to a
local file? OK, I can get all the dmesg cat'ed at some point of the
boot process. But what if my system couldn't actually boot? For that
kind of occasion, I need my whole dmesg to be stored at any given
point, so I could access it. How do I do that?



Just make your console com0 then you wont see anything between BIOS and the 
login. If you have a problem booting hook up a serial console and see 
what's up. Having said that I think it is dumb to *not* want to see the 
boot messages and I hate systems that hide that information from me, but 
that's just me.

Re: Donation issues with OpenBSD…

[Eric S Pulley]

--On Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:21:00 +0800 Brent Shumacher 
brent.shumac...@gmail.com wrote:



http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-almost-gave-openbsd-10-didnt.h
tml



Please stop posting links to this completley FAKE website (for gods sake 
people it has the word troll right in the URL). Look for the disclaimer on 
the site; it is in white on white text... Everything written there is 
bullshit, so stop posting it here please.

Re: Which netbook for OpenBSD

[Eric S Pulley]

On Mon, June 28, 2010 12:41 am, b...@brodewicz.pl wrote:
 Hi.

 I'm planning to buy a netbook and I wonder which one is the best choice
 for
 running OpenBSD?
 Any sugestion?

 Thanks
 --
 Rafal Brodewicz



Acer Aspire One AOD-150 after replacing the broadcom WiFi mini PCIe card
with a ralink (about a $25 mod) everything works, rock solid.

Re: Some secure way of updating sources?

[Eric S. Pulley]

 Having read the FAQ, I learned there are 3 ways to sync sources. Among
them, only AnonCVS can be transmitted in a secure channel when using SSH
transport. The other two, namely CVSup and CVSync, are transferred in
clear text with no server identity authentication. However, even the
AnonCVS host key fingerprints are published over HTTP channel, which
provides no server authentication as well.

 Communication without proper authentication is vulnerable to DNS
poisoning and man-in-the-middle attacks, alhough it is unlikely to happen
in the wild.

 In practice, an updating user is not confident to say he or she is
always updating genuine OpenBSD sources. And OpenBSD mirrors sync with the
same unsureness.

 Is there some way to authenticate and verify source updating traffic?

 It seems publishing the SSH host keys on the HTTPS pages stabilizes the
AnonCVS trusting graph. What about CVSup and CVSync?


So you are seriously suggesting the OpenBSD folks set up a public-key
cryptography system (SSL) to confirm their current public-key cryptography
system (SSH)? I guess then we would need a third system to confirm the
first two, right? This must be troll food.

Re: 4.6 arriving

[Eric S Pulley]

Got my copy on the 7th here in Utah. Just did my first new install. Have 
to say I think the new install process is really nice.


I think OpenBSD might just be the fastest installing (new)OS out there, I 
didn't actually time it but it felt less than five minutes to up, 
configured and running (no_x11).


Thank you to everyone that worked on this release.

--
ESP

Re: Anyone see anything overtly obvious in this panic?

[Eric S. Pulley]

--On February 24, 2006 11:04:12 PM -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone.  I've been trying to bring up an old Sun Enterprise
 Ultra 150, with the following results.  I keep thinking that
 there's something obvious staring me in the face, but I don't see
 it.  Can anyone help?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 Dave Klingler
 
 Boot device: disk1:3  File and args:
 OpenBSD IEEE 1275 Bootblock 1.1
 .. OpenBSD 3.8 (obj) #1: Thu Sep  1 17:32:37 MDT 2005
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/stand/ofwboot
 /obj : trying bsd...
 Booting /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED],880/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED],0:3/bsd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 symbols @ 0xffed8280 58+259056+154413 start=0x100
 [ using 414176 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
 console is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],110:a
 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
 The Regents of the University of California.  All rights
 reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2005 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.
 http://www.OpenBSD.org
 
 OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #607: Sat Sep 10 16:03:59 MDT 2005
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENER
 IC total memory = 268435456
 avail memory = 234905600
 using 1638 buffers containing 13418496 bytes of memory
 bootpath: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED],880/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED],0:3
 mainbus0 (root): Sun Ultra 2 UPA/SBus (2 X UltraSPARC 148MHz)
 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC @ 148 MHz, version 0 FPU
 cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l), 512K
 external (64 b/ l)
 timer0 at mainbus0 addr 0xfffc1c00 irq vectors 7f0 and 7f1
 sbus0 at mainbus0 addr 0xfffcc000: clock = 25 MHz
 STC0 on /mainbus enabled
 DVMA map: ff80 to e000
 IOTDB: 1362000 to 1364000
 audiocs0 at sbus0 slot 13 offset 0xc00 vector 24 ipl 8
 audio0 at audiocs0
 auxio0 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x190
 flashprom at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x0 not configured
 fdc0 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x140 vector 29 ipl 11: no drives
 attached clock1 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x120: mk48t59: hostid
 807e7574 zs0 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x110 vector 28 ipl 12
 softpri 6 zstty0 at zs0 channel 0 (console i/o)
 zstty1 at zs0 channel 1
 zs1 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x100 vector 28 ipl 12 softpri 6
 zskbd0 at zs1 channel 0: no keyboard
 zstty2 at zs1 channel 1: mouse
 uperf0 at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x130: model SUNW,sc-mp (0/3)
 ports 4 SUNW,pll at sbus0 slot 15 offset 0x1304000 not configured
 esp0 at sbus0 slot 14 offset 0x880 vector 20 ipl 3: dma rev fas
 esp0: FAS366/HME, 40MHz, SCSI ID 7
 scsibus0 at esp0: 8 targets
 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST39102LC, 0004 SCSI2
 0/direct fixed sd0: 8683MB, 6962 cyl, 12 head, 212 sec, 512
 bytes/sec, 17783240 sec total cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0:
 TOSHIBA, XM-5401TASUN4XCD, 3485 SCSI2 5/cdrom re movable
 hme0 at sbus0 slot 14 offset 0x8c0 vector 21 ipl 6: address
 08:00:20:7e:75:7 4
 nsphy0 at hme0 phy 1: DP83840 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
 SUNW,bpp at sbus0 slot 14 offset 0xc80 vector 22 ipl 2 not
 configured cgsix0 at sbus0 slot 0 offset 0x0 vector 5 ipl 5:
 SUNW,501-2325, 1152x900, rev 1 1
 wsdisplay0 at cgsix0
 wsdisplay0: screen 0 added (std, sun emulation)
 hme1 at sbus0 slot 2 offset 0x8c0 vector 4 ipl 6: address
 08:00:20:7e:75:74 nsphy1 at hme1 phy 1: DP83840 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
 esp1 at sbus0 slot 2 offset 0x880 vector 3 ipl 3: dma rev fas
 esp1: FAS366/HME, 40MHz, SCSI ID 7
 scsibus1 at esp1: 8 targets
 nf at sbus0 class network slot 3 offset 0x7ff0 vector 4 ipl 6 not
 configured pcons at mainbus0 not configured
 root on sd0c
 rootdev=0x07d2 rrootdev=0x11d2 rawdev=0x11d2
 panic: cannot open disk, 0x07d2/0x11d2, error 6
 kdb breakpoint at 130bca0
 Stopped at  Debugger+0x4:   nop
 RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING
 THIS PANIC! DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING
 THAT INFORMATION! ddb trace
 dk_mountroot(187e000, 7f, 0, 1388c40, 1, 1800) at dk_mountroot+0x234
 vfs_mountroot(180e110, 2, 1, 0, 7ffe, 1800) at vfs_mountroot+0x8c
 main(0, 10d17a0, e0001074, 1800, 50, 100962c) at main+0x558
 print_dtlb(80, 800, 100, fffb1a70, 18, 33) at
 print_dtlb+0x4e4 ddb ps
PID   PPID   PGRPUID  S   FLAGS  WAIT   COMMAND
  3  0  0  0  20x100204 pfpurge
  2  0  0  0  20x100204 kmthread
  1  0  0  0  2 0x4 swapper
 *0 -1  0  0  7 0x80204 swapper
 ddb
 

Just a thought.

Why is slice sd0c defined as your root device instead of sd0a?  Slice
c is the raw whole disk.

-- 
esp