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2006/11/28, Emmanuel Jarri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They've just gained their place in the vendorwatch.org list, scored as unfriendly ;) http://vendorwatch.org/ And now they have been bought by LSI. :-) http://www.lsi.com/news/corporate_news/2006_12_04.html Best Martin
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so is LSI a friendly vendor? Sam Fourman Jr. On 12/4/06, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/11/28, Emmanuel Jarri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They've just gained their place in the vendorwatch.org list, scored as unfriendly ;) http://vendorwatch.org/ And now they have been bought by LSI. :-) http://www.lsi.com/news/corporate_news/2006_12_04.html Best Martin
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so is LSI a friendly vendor? According to http://vendorwatch.org - yes :-)
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On 12/4/06, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now they have been bought by LSI. :-) http://www.lsi.com/news/corporate_news/2006_12_04.html So there is hope that LSI will release specifications :) Andreas. -- Hobbes : Shouldn't we read the instructions? Calvin : Do I look like a sissy?
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This is an example of us trying to talk to a vendor and being totally shut down. Not only did they license the PCI express and MAC portions, but they don't want to help us to support their products at all. No information, no people to talk to, nothing. - Forwarded message from Ubowski, Richard M (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Ubowski, Richard M (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:41:36 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soriano, Victor John (Vic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ET1310 Documentation Hi Jason, I forwarded your request to the Agere ET1310 Product Manager and a decision was made to not release the ET1310 documentation at this time. Appreciate your interest in developing an OpenBSD driver for the ET1310. The ET1310 GigE PHY is an Agere design and the Agere MAC was licensed from a 3rd party. Rgds, Rich Ubowski PCS Applications Manager -- Forwarded Message From: Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:31:36 +1100 To: Victor Soriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ET1310 datasheet On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 12:44:51PM -0500, Victor Soriano wrote: Hi John, I'm Vic Soriano, a Sr. Software Engineer for Agere and the author/maintainer of the Linux driver source code for the ET1310 Gigabit MAC/PHY. I've copied our Applications Engineering Manager for the ET1310, Rich Ubowski, on this email. He is currently looking into obtaining the datasheets you've requested. In addition to documentation, I'm attaching the last release of the ET1310 Linux driver for reference, as this might also help in your porting or development efforts. Have you had a chance to find the documentation yet? I can't seem to manage to get MII access to return non zero values. It appears that the ET1310 design was initially based around a National cassini+ design? Jonathan -- End of Forwarded Message - End forwarded message -
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They've just gained their place in the vendorwatch.org list, scored as unfriendly ;) http://vendorwatch.org/ On 11/28/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of us trying to talk to a vendor and being totally shut down. Not only did they license the PCI express and MAC portions, but they don't want to help us to support their products at all. No information, no people to talk to, nothing. - Forwarded message from Ubowski, Richard M (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Ubowski, Richard M (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:41:36 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soriano, Victor John (Vic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ET1310 Documentation Hi Jason, I forwarded your request to the Agere ET1310 Product Manager and a decision was made to not release the ET1310 documentation at this time. Appreciate your interest in developing an OpenBSD driver for the ET1310. The ET1310 GigE PHY is an Agere design and the Agere MAC was licensed from a 3rd party. Rgds, Rich Ubowski PCS Applications Manager -- Forwarded Message From: Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:31:36 +1100 To: Victor Soriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ET1310 datasheet On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 12:44:51PM -0500, Victor Soriano wrote: Hi John, I'm Vic Soriano, a Sr. Software Engineer for Agere and the author/maintainer of the Linux driver source code for the ET1310 Gigabit MAC/PHY. I've copied our Applications Engineering Manager for the ET1310, Rich Ubowski, on this email. He is currently looking into obtaining the datasheets you've requested. In addition to documentation, I'm attaching the last release of the ET1310 Linux driver for reference, as this might also help in your porting or development efforts. Have you had a chance to find the documentation yet? I can't seem to manage to get MII access to return non zero values. It appears that the ET1310 design was initially based around a National cassini+ design? Jonathan -- End of Forwarded Message - End forwarded message -
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Hi. Thanks for the information. If I see any of their products on a list for my customer I will _strongly_ vote against their product - independant of used the OS. On 11/28/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of us trying to talk to a vendor and being totally shut down. Not only did they license the PCI express and MAC portions, but they don't want to help us to support their products at all. No information, no people to talk to, nothing. Andreas. -- Hobbes : Shouldn't we read the instructions? Calvin : Do I look like a sissy?
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On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:16, Jonathan Gray wrote: This is an example of us trying to talk to a vendor and being totally shut down. Not only did they license the PCI express and MAC portions, but they don't want to help us to support their products at all. No information, no people to talk to, nothing. The PCI Express was licensed from Synopsis: http://www.synopsys.com/products/success/agere_dwss.pdf I believe the MAC is *might* be licensed from SiS but I'm just guessing on that one. We all know the lack of help from Richard Ubowski means he is just covering his ass due to the IP/NDA issues involved. He probably doesn't have the authority to release the docs and by ignoring the requests, he hopes the problem will just go away... Jonathan took the logical/reasonable approach of contacting the people involved with the working on the particular product in order to get the required docs. -And what he got was the typical run-around. I'll try the opposite illogical/unreasonable aproach, namely, start at the top and work down. I'll try to contact Rick Clemmer, the Agere CEO, to see what he has to say about prefering lost sales to open docs... All the rest of you out there in misc@ land are free to pick an aproach and join the fray. Just remember, executives and board members are only human beings but they *especially* want to know what keeps us from buying their products... http://www.agere.com/company/team.html http://www.agere.com/company/board.html It doesn't hurt to try... Kind Regards, JCR p.s. I sure hope someone records Jonathan's lecture at OpenCon for those of us who can't make it to Venice.
