Re: [MAYBE SPAM] Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 02:51:51PM -0500, Damian Wiest wrote: | Do whatever you like. I'm simply stating my preference and providing | an alternative setup for people to consider. I don't find receiving | 200+ messages a day from cron jobs running on the network with identical | subject lines to be a particularly good setup. In this case, having | cron mail me the results of the job is not exactly what I want as you | seem to believe. | | If you can come up with a better scheme for managing emailed output from | hundreds of jobs running on hundreds of machines, then please share. | As it stands, you're merely trolling. My cronjobs do not output anything when stuff Just Works (tm). When something goes wrong, they will give output which will be sent to the admin (me). As I usually don't receive any output from my cronjobs, any cron mail I get indicates badness (except for the daily/weekly/monthly crons that get installed by default). After receiving such a mail, I will go in and fix the issue and the mails stop. I don't need my backup cron to tell me that everything went fine. That should be status quo. This default behaviour of cron works pretty well for me, actually. If I want succes-data accumulated over time, I'll make sure to do adequate logging or send that particular data somewhere by other means than the default cron mail facility. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: [MAYBE SPAM] Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 03:06:20PM -0400, Adam wrote: Damian Wiest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 07:54:05PM -0400, Adam wrote: Damian Wiest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose your cron jobs don't emit output, which any good job shouldn't do. Huh? If you want a task to run on a schedule, and then mail you the results, then cron is exactly what you want. Any good job does what its author wants it to. If they want it to emit output, then having it be silent for no reason does not make it a good job. Adam The way I structure my jobs, no output is _ever_ mailed by the cron daemon. Instead, the job itself traps output and sends an appropriate email message, with an appropriate subject to the appropriate user. Good for you. But what Damian likes to do is not the definition of good. It's my definition :) Like I said, if someone wants output mailed from cron, then making the job silent just because Damian thinks that's good is dumb. Adam Do whatever you like. I'm simply stating my preference and providing an alternative setup for people to consider. I don't find receiving 200+ messages a day from cron jobs running on the network with identical subject lines to be a particularly good setup. In this case, having cron mail me the results of the job is not exactly what I want as you seem to believe. If you can come up with a better scheme for managing emailed output from hundreds of jobs running on hundreds of machines, then please share. As it stands, you're merely trolling. -Damian
Re: [MAYBE SPAM] Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...
Damian Wiest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do whatever you like. I'm simply stating my preference and providing an alternative setup for people to consider. I don't find receiving 200+ messages a day from cron jobs running on the network with identical subject lines to be a particularly good setup. In this case, having cron mail me the results of the job is not exactly what I want as you seem to believe. I didn't say its exactly what you want, I said its exactly what the person asking about periodic wants. You are the one making blanket statements about bad cron jobs without considering what is intended. If you can come up with a better scheme for managing emailed output from hundreds of jobs running on hundreds of machines, then please share. As it stands, you're merely trolling. I don't need to come up with any such scheme, as I don't have any such problem. I simply said that cron is ideal for running a task and then sending an email about it. This is true wether you let cron send the mail or if you do it yourself in the script. I think you need to learn what a troll is, or stop tossing it around like that. You are not the definition of good, and telling you as much is not trolling. Adam
