Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Eric Furman
If you are new to OpenBSD you should probably avoid
running -current until you are much more familiar with
everything.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Joseph Oficre wrote:
> Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not  my native lang so from time
> to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to
> ask it.
> 
> Ty for help! I appreciate it so much.
> 
> 2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka :
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so
> > > that kind of questions can appear from me.
> >
> > Please do your homework before asking a question[0].
> >
> > OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and
> > FAQ[2]
> >
> > > So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur
> > > previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few
> > > days, ones in month would be nice tho...
> >
> > Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing
> > any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so -
> > always check "Following -current"[3] beforehand.
> >
> > [0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
> > [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi
> > [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/
> > [3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html
> >
> > Raf



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:49:49 -0400
Joseph Oficre wrote:

> Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not  my native lang so from time
> to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to
> ask it.
> 
> Ty for help! I appreciate it so much.
> 
> 2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka :
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote:
> >  
> > > Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so
> > > that kind of questions can appear from me.  
> >
> > Please do your homework before asking a question[0].
> >
> > OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and
> > FAQ[2]
> >  
> > > So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur
> > > previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few
> > > days, ones in month would be nice tho...  

You decide, possibly based on wanting a new package due to a feature
upgrade such as STARTTLS in spamd or a security update.

Do you know that http://stable.mtier.org provide updates for stable
(5.7 when it comes out)?



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Joseph Oficre
Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not  my native lang so from time
to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to
ask it.

Ty for help! I appreciate it so much.

2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka :

> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote:
>
> > Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so
> > that kind of questions can appear from me.
>
> Please do your homework before asking a question[0].
>
> OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and
> FAQ[2]
>
> > So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur
> > previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few
> > days, ones in month would be nice tho...
>
> Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing
> any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so -
> always check "Following -current"[3] beforehand.
>
> [0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
> [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi
> [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/
> [3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html
>
> Raf



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote:

> Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so
> that kind of questions can appear from me.

Please do your homework before asking a question[0].

OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and
FAQ[2]

> So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur
> previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few
> days, ones in month would be nice tho...

Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing
any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so -
always check "Following -current"[3] beforehand.

[0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
[1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi
[2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/
[3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html

Raf



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Joseph Oficre
Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that
kind of questions can appear from me.

So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous
one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in
month would be nice tho...

2015-04-23 10:03 GMT-04:00 David Dahlberg :

> Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 09:51 -0400 schrieb Joseph Oficre:
>
> > As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide is
> > ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use "bsd.rd"
> > from latest snapshot.
>
> Where did you read that, I did /not/ find this in the upgrade guide.
>
> > So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without
> getting
> > troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)
>
> Not at al. Snapshots are based on -current and thus /newer/ than the
> upcoming 5.7-release. If you want to follow -release or -stable, please
> wait until May or until you received your CD set.
>
> --
> David Dahlberg
>
> Fraunhofer FKIE, Dept. Communication Systems (KOM) | Tel: +49-228-9435-845
> Fraunhoferstr. 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany| Fax: +49-228-856277



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 02:51:13PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote:

> Hi @misc!

Hi Joseph,

> As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide
> is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use
> "bsd.rd" from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my
> packages path to snapshot one, right?

No, latest snapshot != 5.7.

5.7 has been built nearly two months ago. Current snapshots are what
will eventually become 5.8.

> So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without
> getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)

Wrong again - ports tree has also been frozen a while back.

You'll need to wait until 5.7 appears on a mirror near you.

Regards,

Raf



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Maurice McCarthy
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 09:51:13AM -0400 or thereabouts, Joseph Oficre wrote:
> Hi @misc!
> As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide is
> ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use "bsd.rd"
> from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to
> snapshot one, right?
> 
> So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting
> troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)
> 

No. It will take a while for the ports and mirrors to upgrade.



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread David Dahlberg
Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 09:51 -0400 schrieb Joseph Oficre:

> As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide is
> ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use "bsd.rd"
> from latest snapshot.

Where did you read that, I did /not/ find this in the upgrade guide.

> So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting
> troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)

Not at al. Snapshots are based on -current and thus /newer/ than the
upcoming 5.7-release. If you want to follow -release or -stable, please
wait until May or until you received your CD set.

-- 
David Dahlberg 

Fraunhofer FKIE, Dept. Communication Systems (KOM) | Tel: +49-228-9435-845
Fraunhoferstr. 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany| Fax: +49-228-856277



Re: 5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Ville Valkonen
On Apr 23, 2015 4:52 PM, "Joseph Oficre"  wrote:
>
> Hi @misc!
> As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide is
> ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use "bsd.rd"
> from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to
> snapshot one, right?
>
> So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting
> troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)
>

Hi,

short answer: wait until 1st of May.

Regards,
Ville



5.7 upgrade question

2015-04-23 Thread Joseph Oficre
Hi @misc!
As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html  5.7 upgrade guide is
ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use "bsd.rd"
from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to
snapshot one, right?

So, can  i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting
troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)