Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...] Probably not gonna happen anyway

2020-02-12 Thread Stuart Longland
On 13/2/20 5:17 am, jeanfrancois wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> Very good videos are available from one of the developer of EXT2/3/4
> recommended to see.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mYDFr5T4tY
> 
> OpenBSD's FFS code looks awesome.

It's mature, and not worth chucking out anytime soon as it'll be much
more stable than any effort to port ${FANCYFS} will be.

About the only big complaint I've heard about it is that there's no
journaling which slows down boot times after an unclean shut-down
(particularly for larger volumes).  This does concern me, but not
greatly at this point.

It's on my rather large back-log to look at, some time in the future
unless someone beats me to it.  (Contrary to others' research, pet
Python projects is not my sole software development experience.)

As it happens there's two ways I can scratch my itch (management of
OpenBSD disk partitions):

1. get OpenBSD to run on a FS that the tools I have¹ understand
   (side-benefit: OpenBSD gains support for a journalled FS)
2. get the tools I have to understand OpenBSD disklabels + ffs
   (side-benefit: people would be able to re-arrange² partitions)

As this thread already struck a few raw nerves last time, I would
suggest if there's any interest, we can collectively discuss it off-list.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.

¹. Mainly what I miss is a tool for re-arranging partitions.  gparted
has served me well for this purpose.
². Primarily the goal here being that a user can "move" partitions
around to re-organise free space.  Right now one can "grow" a partition,
but shuffling the partitions around is not easily possible without
daring unsupported and dangerous acts using `dd`, `disklabel` and `growfs`.



Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...] Probably not gonna happen anyway

2020-02-12 Thread jeanfrancois

Good evening,

Very good videos are available from one of the developer of EXT2/3/4
recommended to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mYDFr5T4tY

OpenBSD's FFS code looks awesome.


Jean-François


Le 09/01/2020 à 03:25, Theo de Raadt a écrit :

Xiyue Deng  wrote:


It would be better to point out where to start, what
hard problems to solve, what work has been done in this area that people
can continue to work on.

Looking at that list, noone here owes you any of those.

Do your own homework.

Re-reading the thread is remarkable.  It's a bunch of people who
won't do the work telling us that we need to tell them what work
to do.  A bunch of garbage is coming out of your mouths.