Re: Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-15 Thread Adriaan
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots and
 bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not?


You could ask the guy who is offering OpenBSD shell access at
http://silenceisdefeat.org ;)

Adriaan



Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-14 Thread Art Vandelay
Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots and
bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not?

Sorry for going off-topic and cross-post, but I don't know who else to ask.

Thanks,
NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/



Re: Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-14 Thread Art Vandelay
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots and
 bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not?

 Sorry for going off-topic and cross-post, but I don't know who else to ask.

 Thanks,
 NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/


I'm serious, I'm trying to get him to use his BSD servers for other
purposes. Maybe webhosting. Maybe a grid to help out local universities in
their supercomputing. Or just plain consulting. Isn't there any research
article out there showing just how silly and profitless that whole business
model is?

Thanks guys,
NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/



Re: Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-14 Thread Subhro
Honestly speaking, I would say its easy money.

Thanks
Subhro



On 9/14/08, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots and
 bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not?

 Sorry for going off-topic and cross-post, but I don't know who else to
 ask.

 Thanks,
 NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/


 I'm serious, I'm trying to get him to use his BSD servers for other
 purposes. Maybe webhosting. Maybe a grid to help out local universities in
 their supercomputing. Or just plain consulting. Isn't there any research
 article out there showing just how silly and profitless that whole business
 model is?

 Thanks guys,
 NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/
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Re: Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-14 Thread Outback Dingo
actually i agree here, running a shell server for 10 USD a head per month,
is a good idea
especially for your freinds who need to learn, just do the math, 100 users
at 10 USD a month and guess what
your making money, though its the getting users to use and abide by good
usage policies is the other trick
it is a great tool for universities to teach students with also

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Honestly speaking, I would say its easy money.

 Thanks
 Subhro



 On 9/14/08, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Art Vandelay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots and
  bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not?
 
  Sorry for going off-topic and cross-post, but I don't know who else to
  ask.
 
  Thanks,
  NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/
 
 
  I'm serious, I'm trying to get him to use his BSD servers for other
  purposes. Maybe webhosting. Maybe a grid to help out local universities
 in
  their supercomputing. Or just plain consulting. Isn't there any research
  article out there showing just how silly and profitless that whole
 business
  model is?
 
  Thanks guys,
  NRS http://nrk.no/p3/program/national_rap_show/
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Re: Being a shell provider - good business?

2008-09-14 Thread Jussi Peltola
The way I see it, providing the shells is relatively easy, but keeping
your line free of DDoS and other niceties it brings is not worth the
effort, especially if your users use IRC and bitch about every second of
downtime. Suddenly $10 isn't so much, and it's a lot more than the cheap
shell providers cost. Without good relations with your ISP it's not
going to be easy to keep your connection at all when the users get
nasty.

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