Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:03:47AM +0200, Dave U. Random wrote: If you can post the diff here I'll pick it up that way. Thank you. [...] The diff is at http://unobtanium.de/static/bitcoin-v0.6.1-openbsd.diff As visible from the filename, the patch is intended for the v0.6.1 source of bitcoin. It allows building the bitcoin daemon with the regular cd src; gmake -f makefile.unix The patch _should_ work for current git HEAD, but I couldn't verify that since g++ consumes an awful lot of memory when compiling (even v0.6.1) which led to out of memory situations when compiling HEAD. YMMV. There has been a post to ports@ a few months (IIRC) ago with a proper port of bitcoin (not done by me), maybe that works out better for you. -- Gregor Best
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
On 10/16/2012 04:06 PM, Anonymous wrote: You wrote: 2012/10/16 Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net: ...snip... Bottom line appears to be a lone miner with a normal desktop computer is not going to be able to do anything but heat up his room. I agree bitcoin is a cool concept and design and the history is fascinating. But we are probably priced out. I don't see much difference to 'real money' when thinking from standpoint of a lone miner with a normal desktop printer. we don't create the money, we just trade it, be it buying things or working to earn it etc.. That's a good comparison and it is the point I was making. Nobody has ever legally printed money with his own printer but people have been able to mine bitcoins with their own computers until recently. That was the original point of bitcoin and it is already on the verge of disappearing. bitcoin was supposed to be decentralized currency but because of increasing resources needed for mining that part is no longer relevant. Do you really want another unelected federal reserve board of bitcoin? That kind of defeats the purpose. Yes, the point of mining was to have a decentralized method of destributing bitcoins. The guy who invented the system could of said hey I have 23 million cryptographic tokens, lets use them as currency! and start passing them out and he would have been rightly laughed out of the room. So he spent a lot of effort to invent a system where the tokens emerge(with effort) out of thin air. The end result is the same, 23 million cryptographic tokens, but now they are spread around and people feel they have real value(sometimes). Not sure if bitcoin will work, but I do admire the system that got it out there.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
You wrote: Thanks I'll have a look. It's quite interesting to see a bitcoin post on @misc. Regardless of what people think, it's a really cool design. Researching more on this it seems the days of private mining by individuals may be over already. People have created mining pools to use networks of computers like folding@home but for money obviously and are getting pretty advanced like mining with high-end video cards. People are even designing dedicated ASIC's but so far none have been delivered and when they're ready they may be sold to select individuals running pools or other bitcoin operations putting the regular guy at a further disadvantage. Bottom line appears to be a lone miner with a normal desktop computer is not going to be able to do anything but heat up his room. I agree bitcoin is a cool concept and design and the history is fascinating. But we are probably priced out.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
2012/10/16 Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net: ...snip... Bottom line appears to be a lone miner with a normal desktop computer is not going to be able to do anything but heat up his room. I agree bitcoin is a cool concept and design and the history is fascinating. But we are probably priced out. I don't see much difference to 'real money' when thinking from standpoint of a lone miner with a normal desktop printer. we don't create the money, we just trade it, be it buying things or working to earn it etc.. -Artturi
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
You wrote: 2012/10/16 Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net: ...snip... Bottom line appears to be a lone miner with a normal desktop computer is not going to be able to do anything but heat up his room. I agree bitcoin is a cool concept and design and the history is fascinating. But we are probably priced out. I don't see much difference to 'real money' when thinking from standpoint of a lone miner with a normal desktop printer. we don't create the money, we just trade it, be it buying things or working to earn it etc.. That's a good comparison and it is the point I was making. Nobody has ever legally printed money with his own printer but people have been able to mine bitcoins with their own computers until recently. That was the original point of bitcoin and it is already on the verge of disappearing. bitcoin was supposed to be decentralized currency but because of increasing resources needed for mining that part is no longer relevant. Do you really want another unelected federal reserve board of bitcoin? That kind of defeats the purpose.
Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
Is there a bitcoin client for OpenBSD or is anyone porting one? Seems like OpenBSD would be a good OS to host a client considering there are viruses and exploits of that well known *cough* OS *cough* that too many people use.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
Anonymous writes: Is there a bitcoin client for OpenBSD or is anyone porting one? pstumpf@ posted one to ports@ a few months back: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-portsm=133804045927036w=2 Haven't heard of any updates since then.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 07:12:35PM +, Anonymous wrote: Is there a bitcoin client for OpenBSD or is anyone porting one? Seems like OpenBSD would be a good OS to host a client considering there are viruses and exploits of that well known *cough* OS *cough* that too many people use. The regular bitcoind compiles relatively cleanly. I have a few patches lying around, but it mostly boils down to adding || __OpenBSD__ in the places gcc complains. I'll try to get the patches into a port ASAP, but I'm kinda swamped right now, so don't hold your breath (and maybe ports@ won't even accept the port :) If you want, I can send the diff to you off-list though. -- Gregor Best
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
You wrote: Anonymous writes: Is there a bitcoin client for OpenBSD or is anyone porting one? pstumpf@ posted one to ports@ a few months back: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-portsm=133804045927036w=2 Haven't heard of any updates since then. Thanks I'll have a look.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
Thanks I'll have a look. It's quite interesting to see a bitcoin post on @misc. Regardless of what people think, it's a really cool design.
Re: Bitcoin client for OpenBSD?
If you can post the diff here I'll pick it up that way. Thank you. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 07:12:35PM +, Anonymous wrote: Is there a bitcoin client for OpenBSD or is anyone porting one? Seems like OpenBSD would be a good OS to host a client considering there are viruses and exploits of that well known *cough* OS *cough* that too many people use. The regular bitcoind compiles relatively cleanly. I have a few patches lying around, but it mostly boils down to adding || __OpenBSD__ in the places gcc complains. I'll try to get the patches into a port ASAP, but I'm kinda swamped right now, so don't hold your breath (and maybe ports@ won't even accept the port :) If you want, I can send the diff to you off-list though. -- Gregor Best
