Re: FW: Raid controller?
Theo is right here. They really don't care. I won't dwelve into details but I worked for a service that used their product, with a government-level contract, and the only thing we waited for was the end of the contract to stop using their products, which we did. We had had a contract with them, and they did not even respect its terms... So think about how they're going to handle your requests when you're not even paying customers. Let's move on.
FW: Raid controller?
Theo does have a point...you gain nothing from tip toeing around these issues...especially when dealing with people like them -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Patton a Campbell Sent: 18 May 2009 12:04 To: Theo de Raadt Cc: chu...@telenix.org; l...@omnitec.net; ad...@bitwise.net; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Raid controller? On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009, Chuck Robey wrote: I'm currently trying to verify something, because while I know makefiles really well, the ones for the FreeBSD kernel are too indirect for me, so I can't yet verify about the twa driver. Doesn't make any difference, 3Ware was abandoned by the project many years ago due to lack of support. There are many compatible cards out there: http://openbsd.org/i386.html#hardware Compare the drivers with the with bioctl compatibility list. No kidding. If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you were sayin'? Dhu as well as we support just about everything else in the industry. We did not put them into that lofty position of not being supported by OpenBSD. They put themselves there. If I was angry about it I might say I hope they are happy with the result, but the fact is I stopped caring about it ages ago. You came to this mailing list and you brought up 3ware because you don't know how to use google.
Re: FW: Raid controller?
If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you were sayin'? I was not the only person who talked to 3Ware. Over the last 10 years numerous developers and users have gotten gotten enough hope to try to talk to them, and have received promises of forthcoming documentation. All of those promises were lies. Every person we talked to at 3ware is unaware what a promise means. And it goes all the way up to members of the board and the vice presidential level. They are LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT.
Re: FW: Raid controller?
On Mon, 18 May 2009 10:40:29 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you were sayin'? I was not the only person who talked to 3Ware. Over the last 10 years numerous developers and users have gotten gotten enough hope to try to talk to them, and have received promises of forthcoming documentation. All of those promises were lies. Every person we talked to at 3ware is unaware what a promise means. And it goes all the way up to members of the board and the vice presidential level. They are LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT. Ok, a long history... sometimes I find it difficult to differentiate malice from plain blind incompetence. Dhu
