Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-11 Thread Zeljko Jovanovic

On 12.01.2015. 01:00, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:


Zeljko Jovanovic said:

I thought at least OpenBSD people had some understanding of how world
politics work.


This is wrong forum for world politics discussions.  Let's not
digress.


Agreed.



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-11 Thread Zeljko Jovanovic

On 05.01.2015. 10:14, Peter Hessler wrote:


On 2015 Jan 04 (Sun) at 21:39:08 -0500 (-0500), Predrag Punosevac wrote:
:For many of us who were born in that country and whose lives have been
:altered forever by actual events on the ground your remark doesn't sound
:clever

I'm sorry, but this is simply a fact.  To get a country code assigned,
you will need to contact the ISO.  We are unable to assign one for them.


Peter, I believe you had good intentions, but your comment made me (and I am 
sure Predrag as well), even more miserable.


We do not want any iso codes assigned to a part of our country occupied by 
islamic militants!


I thought at least OpenBSD people had some understanding of how world politics 
work. The same people who decide whether you may or may not exercise your 
freedom of speach, can also decide whether some group are terrorists or 
freedom fighters, depending on part of the world in which that group operate.




Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-11 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Zeljko Jovanovic said:
 I thought at least OpenBSD people had some understanding of how world
 politics work.

This is wrong forum for world politics discussions.  Let's not
digress.

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Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-05 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2015 Jan 04 (Sun) at 21:39:08 -0500 (-0500), Predrag Punosevac wrote:
:On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 12:58:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
: AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.
...
:For many of us who were born in that country and whose lives have been
:altered forever by actual events on the ground your remark doesn't sound
:clever

I'm sorry, but this is simply a fact.  To get a country code assigned,
you will need to contact the ISO.  We are unable to assign one for them.


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Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-05 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra

Op Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:42:41 +0100 schreef Milun Rajkovic rmi...@gmail.com:

Because it's not a country (Kosovo).


It is not recognized as an independent state by an overwhelming majority of 
nations (but a majority nonetheless).


Btw it uses mobile networks of Monaco
or Luxembour or something like that, and landlines (and call number +381)
from Serbian infrastructure.


+383 since this year.


On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:


The breakup of Yugoslavia seems to be incomplete in countrycodes.
AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.


Indeed not assigned yet, but XK seems to be used for now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#XK


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Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-05 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Peter Hessler said:
 On 2015 Jan 04 (Sun) at 21:39:08 -0500 (-0500), Predrag Punosevac wrote:
 For many of us who were born in that country and whose lives have been
 altered forever by actual events on the ground your remark doesn't sound
 clever
 
 I'm sorry, but this is simply a fact.  To get a country code assigned,
 you will need to contact the ISO.  We are unable to assign one for them.

I guess it is not the lack of country code for Kosovo he is upset with.

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Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-05 Thread Jan Stary
 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:
  The breakup of Yugoslavia seems to be incomplete in countrycodes.
  AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.

On Jan 04 14:42:41, rmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Because it's not a country (Kosovo).

On Jan 04 16:13:21, ji...@devio.us wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 12:58:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
  -MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
  +MK:MACEDONIA
 Not all Greeks will raise their voices :D

On Jan 04 21:39:08, punoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is that diff the best thing a wonna be OpenBSD developer can come up
 after these long holidays? That is really sad. I could suggest you five
 interesting things to hack on from the top of my head and I am just a
 stupid mathematician.
 
 For many of us who were born in that country and whose lives have been
 altered forever by actual events on the ground your remark doesn't sound
 clever but it is just a rude remainder of deceased parents, family
 members, relatives, friends, and peaces of our own lives we have lost
 during bloody break up.

Needless to say, these are exactly the remarks I wanted to avoid.
It's a list of codes; I am not making any comments whatsoever
about the actual events in Yugoslavia, except the fact there
is not an assigned code for Kosovo - meaning simply that is
why it's not in the diff.



Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Jan Stary
The breakup of Yugoslavia seems to be incomplete in countrycodes.
AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.

Jan


Index: countrycodes
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/share/misc/countrycodes,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.3 countrycodes
--- countrycodes12 Oct 2002 02:14:15 -  1.3
+++ countrycodes4 Jan 2015 11:55:11 -
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-# $OpenBSD: countrycodes,v 1.3 2002/10/12 02:14:15 jsyn Exp $
+# $OpenBSD: countrycodes,v 1.1 2015/01/04 10:58:19 hans Exp $
 #
 # ISO 3166-1 country names and code elements
 # http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/codlstp1/en_listp1.html
@@ -141,9 +141,10 @@ LY:LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA
 MA:MOROCCO
 MC:MONACO
 MD:MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF
+ME:MONTENEGRO
 MG:MADAGASCAR
 MH:MARSHALL ISLANDS
-MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
+MK:MACEDONIA
 ML:MALI
 MM:MYANMAR
 MN:MONGOLIA
@@ -189,6 +190,7 @@ PY:PARAGUAY
 QA:QATAR
 RE:REUNION
 RO:ROMANIA
+RS:SERBIA
 RU:RUSSIAN FEDERATION
 RW:RWANDA
 SA:SAUDI ARABIA
@@ -243,7 +245,6 @@ WF:WALLIS AND FUTUNA
 WS:SAMOA
 YE:YEMEN
 YT:MAYOTTE
-YU:YUGOSLAVIA
 ZA:SOUTH AFRICA
 ZM:ZAMBIA
 ZW:ZIMBABWE



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Milun Rajkovic
Because it's not a country (Kosovo). Btw it uses mobile networks of Monaco
or Luxembour or something like that, and landlines (and call number +381)
from Serbian infrastructure. Macedonia is also having an issue regarding
that. Messed up situation that won't settle any time soon.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:

 The breakup of Yugoslavia seems to be incomplete in countrycodes.
 AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.

 Jan


 Index: countrycodes
 ===
 RCS file: /cvs/src/share/misc/countrycodes,v
 retrieving revision 1.3
 diff -u -p -r1.3 countrycodes
 --- countrycodes12 Oct 2002 02:14:15 -  1.3
 +++ countrycodes4 Jan 2015 11:55:11 -
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -# $OpenBSD: countrycodes,v 1.3 2002/10/12 02:14:15 jsyn Exp $
 +# $OpenBSD: countrycodes,v 1.1 2015/01/04 10:58:19 hans Exp $
  #
  # ISO 3166-1 country names and code elements
  # http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/codlstp1/en_listp1.html
 @@ -141,9 +141,10 @@ LY:LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA
  MA:MOROCCO
  MC:MONACO
  MD:MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF
 +ME:MONTENEGRO
  MG:MADAGASCAR
  MH:MARSHALL ISLANDS
 -MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
 +MK:MACEDONIA
  ML:MALI
  MM:MYANMAR
  MN:MONGOLIA
 @@ -189,6 +190,7 @@ PY:PARAGUAY
  QA:QATAR
  RE:REUNION
  RO:ROMANIA
 +RS:SERBIA
  RU:RUSSIAN FEDERATION
  RW:RWANDA
  SA:SAUDI ARABIA
 @@ -243,7 +245,6 @@ WF:WALLIS AND FUTUNA
  WS:SAMOA
  YE:YEMEN
  YT:MAYOTTE
 -YU:YUGOSLAVIA
  ZA:SOUTH AFRICA
  ZM:ZAMBIA
  ZW:ZIMBABWE



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Jan Stary said:
 -MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
 +MK:MACEDONIA

AFAIK the former variant is currently the correct one. There is a
dispute between Macedonia and Greece regarding the meaning of the word
Macedonia - Greece maintains that this word refers to its region (as
in Alexander III of Macedon).

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Dmitrij D. Czarkoff



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Raf
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:09:50AM EST, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:

 Jan Stary said:
  -MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
  +MK:MACEDONIA
 
 AFAIK the former variant is currently the correct one. There is a
 dispute between Macedonia and Greece regarding the meaning of the word
 Macedonia - Greece maintains that this word refers to its region (as
 in Alexander III of Macedon).

TFYROM is the name, under which, Republic of Macedonia (to give its
full name) is, provisionally, referred to within the UN, until said
dispute is resolved[0]. Therefore, given that ISO 3166-1 country codes
and names are linked to membership within the UN, or other international
organisations, the former name should remain... or changed to:

MK:MACEDONIA, REPUBLIC OF

to find the middle ground.

[0] http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml#t

Regards,

Raf



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Jiri B
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 12:58:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:

 -MK:MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF
 +MK:MACEDONIA

Not all Greeks will raise their voices :D

j.



Re: Former Yugoslavia in countrycodes

2015-01-04 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 12:58:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
 AFAIK, Kosovo does not have a country code assigned.

Is that diff the best thing a wonna be OpenBSD developer can come up
after these long holidays? That is really sad. I could suggest you five
interesting things to hack on from the top of my head and I am just a
stupid mathematician.

For many of us who were born in that country and whose lives have been
altered forever by actual events on the ground your remark doesn't sound
clever but it is just a rude remainder of deceased parents, family
members, relatives, friends, and peaces of our own lives we have lost
during bloody break up.

Best,
Predrag