Re: GDM times out waiting for X11 startup on slow machines (and an OpenBSD GDM theme!)

2010-04-14 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I recently set up a couple Pentium MMX 233 machines with OpenBSD 4.5 for the
 purpose of running gdm, ratpoison, vncviewer, rdesktop, and xterm.  I found
 gdm to be the best option for a login manager, both because it loads quite
 fast and is very configurable (I've included below an OpenBSD theme I
 created for it).  However, by default, it is impossible to run on hardware
 this slow.
 
 In order to keep gdm from killing itself timing out waiting for X to start,
 I found I needed to add the following in /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf, within
 the [daemon] section:
 
 GdmXserverTimeout=60

Hi.

Did you try with a lower value, like 30?
If so, I can make it the default in the GDM package...

-- 
Antoine



GDM times out waiting for X11 startup on slow machines (and an OpenBSD GDM theme!)

2010-04-13 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
Hello,

I recently set up a couple Pentium MMX 233 machines with OpenBSD 4.5 for the
purpose of running gdm, ratpoison, vncviewer, rdesktop, and xterm.  I found
gdm to be the best option for a login manager, both because it loads quite
fast and is very configurable (I've included below an OpenBSD theme I
created for it).  However, by default, it is impossible to run on hardware
this slow.

In order to keep gdm from killing itself timing out waiting for X to start,
I found I needed to add the following in /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf, within
the [daemon] section:

GdmXserverTimeout=60

Without that, gdm will sometimes successfully launch if I load it by hand
after already starting and stopping X, but never the first time, never on
boot, and not reliably even when circumstances are favorable.

Here is a GDM theme for OpenBSD.  Unpack it into
/usr/local/share/gdm/themes.  I have only tried it using 1024x768 screen
resolution - so testing on other monitor sizes would be appreciated!
http://casey.shobe.info/software/gdm-theme-openbsd-0.1.tar.gz

Cheers,
-- 
Casey Allen Shobe
ca...@shobe.info



Re: GDM times out waiting for X11 startup on slow machines (and an OpenBSD GDM theme!)

2010-04-13 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 13 April 2010 15:01, Casey Allen Shobe ca...@shobe.info wrote:
 Hello,

 I recently set up a couple Pentium MMX 233 machines with OpenBSD 4.5 for
the
 purpose of running gdm, ratpoison, vncviewer, rdesktop, and xterm.  I found
 gdm to be the best option for a login manager, both because it loads quite
 fast and is very configurable (I've included below an OpenBSD theme I
 created for it).  However, by default, it is impossible to run on hardware
 this slow.

 In order to keep gdm from killing itself timing out waiting for X to start,
 I found I needed to add the following in /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf, within
 the [daemon] section:

 GdmXserverTimeout=60

 Without that, gdm will sometimes successfully launch if I load it by hand
 after already starting and stopping X, but never the first time, never on
 boot, and not reliably even when circumstances are favorable.

 Here is a GDM theme for OpenBSD.  Unpack it into
 /usr/local/share/gdm/themes.  I have only tried it using 1024x768 screen
 resolution - so testing on other monitor sizes would be appreciated!
 http://casey.shobe.info/software/gdm-theme-openbsd-0.1.tar.gz

 Cheers,
 --
 Casey Allen Shobe
 ca...@shobe.info



Why not xdm ? Considering gdm is much much much heavier.



Re: GDM times out waiting for X11 startup on slow machines (and an OpenBSD GDM theme!)

2010-04-13 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:27:37 -0300
Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 
  Here is a GDM theme for OpenBSD.
[...]
 
 Why not xdm ? Considering gdm is much much much heavier.


Or x11/slim.  I think that one is pretty neat.



Re: GDM times out waiting for X11 startup on slow machines (and an OpenBSD GDM theme!)

2010-04-13 Thread Casey Allen Shobe

On Apr 13, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:

Why not xdm ? Considering gdm is much much much heavier.



XDM does not have as configurable of an interface, at least of what I  
know of it (would be happy to learn otherwise though, as GDM depends  
on a lot of useless junk).  Wanted something pleasing to users.  It's  
mostly used by Windows admins to access Windows machines.


GDM does not really load any noticeably slower than XDM.  It's simply  
that X11 takes a little bit to start and show up with the grey X11  
default background (btw is that changeable?  It makes my LCD flicker  
horribly).  Then either XDM or GDM kick in after perhaps 3 seconds of  
that.  Since it wasn't horribly slower (as KDM was), and I was able to  
figure out how to configure it to load ratpoison by default faster,  
that's what I used.


I may fiddle more around with XDM now that there is a working/ 
configured login manager in place.


Cheers,
--
Casey Allen Shobe
ca...@shobe.info