Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-26 Thread Rogier Krieger

On 7/24/06, Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
not easy).


As another poster already mentioned: upgrades are an easy and well
documented process. Do your specific circumstances (e.g. problems to
physically access your co-located machines) make upgrades painful?

If so, you should probably solve that problem. If you can't perform
routine work such as upgrades, what do you do when an emergency pops
up?



For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly...


I've encountered such trouble as well. Several times, replacing the
power supply did the trick. You may want to keep those around at the
data centre.

Cheers,

Rogier

--
If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.



Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-25 Thread Andrei GUDIU

Ian Watts wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:


Hi Gurus,

I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but 
upgrades are not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)

See attached dmesg below.

For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, 
capslock/keyboard don't work, no error on the console. The only 
solution is the magic-button :(


I tested the disks: ok
I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
No new software has been installed not upgraded.
If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze

Any advice?


How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).


I had similar symptoms caused by my CPU overheating.  Was the CPU fan 
one of the fans you replaced or is the server room hotter in mid-summer?



-- Ian




I had similar problems with an Intel Celeron 600 Mhz. It crashed 
randomly. I used to use two realtek network interfaces wich I suspected 
causing the problems. I replaced those two rl nics and everything went 
back to normal. System is running ok.




Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-25 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Ian Watts wrote:
 It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but
 upgrades are not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)

They are. That's exactly one of the main reasons why I have started
using OpenBSD at our Institute. Twice a year I spend ~ 2 hours (that
includes reading the documentation, testing and coffee break) to upgrade
7 machines. [peng]

Stephan

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Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-24 Thread Xavier Mertens
Hi Gurus,

I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)
See attached dmesg below.

For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, 
capslock/keyboard don't work, no error on the console. The only solution is the 
magic-button :(

I tested the disks: ok
I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
No new software has been installed not upgraded.
If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze

Any advice?

OpenBSD 3.5-current (GENERIC) #35: Thu Apr 15 19:35:46 MDT 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,SER,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 528068608 (515692K)
avail mem = 481353728 (470072K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26505216 bytes (25884K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(18) BIOS, date 05/15/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb080
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev. 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb500
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev. 1.0 @ 0xfd930/128 (6 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 12
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8601 PCI rev 0x05
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C601 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Trident CyberBlade i1 rev 0x6a
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x40
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA100, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IC35L060AVV207-0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 58644MB, 120103200 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: QSI, CD-ROM SCR-242, CQ26 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1: ST320414A
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 19092MB, 39102336 sectors
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
wd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x16: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x16: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x40
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio rev 0x50: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x49434511 (ICEnsemble ICE1232)
ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D
audio0 at auvia0
dc0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Lite-On PNIC rev 0x20: irq 10, address 
00:a0:cc:29:69:4c
mtdphy0 at dc0 phy 1: MTD972 10/100 media interface, rev. 8
rl0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 11 address 
00:10:dc:04:83:a9
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal phy
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask c840 netmask cc40 ttymask ccc2
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80
dkcsum: wd1 matched BIOS disk 81
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
WARNING: / was not properly unmounted

Xavier
--
There are three kinds of death in this world. There's heart death, there's
brain death, and there's being off the network.



Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-24 Thread Bill
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:

 Hi Gurus,
 
 I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
 I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
 It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
 not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)
 See attached dmesg below.
 
 For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, 
 capslock/keyboard don't work, no error on the console. The only solution is 
 the magic-button :(
 
 I tested the disks: ok
 I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
 I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
 No new software has been installed not upgraded.
 If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze
 
 Any advice?

How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).



Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-24 Thread Ian Watts

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:


Hi Gurus,

I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)
See attached dmesg below.

For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, capslock/keyboard 
don't work, no error on the console. The only solution is the magic-button :(

I tested the disks: ok
I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
No new software has been installed not upgraded.
If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze

Any advice?


How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).


I had similar symptoms caused by my CPU overheating.  Was the CPU fan 
one of the fans you replaced or is the server room hotter in mid-summer?



-- Ian