Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-13 Thread Alari Kask
> From: Alari Kask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: November 11, 2005 1:51:12 PM GMT+02:00
> To: Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 4:57 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
>
>> Alari Kask wrote:
>> ... [I *refuse* to post that link again]
>>
>> I was right, more damage than good.
>>
>> I *really* wish people would quit accomplishing one little thing,
>> writing it up in "HOWTO" form, and patting themselves on the back and
>> thinking they were doing the world some kind of favor by  
>> publishing it.
>>
>> YOU ARE NOT.
>> I pity the fool who thinks that seeing something in print makes it
>> somehow true.  There are a lot of such fools, unfortunately.  "Oh,  
>> look,
>> I found it on a web page, it must be true!"
>>
>> In the free world, you have the right to speak and write as you wish,
>> regardless of the accuracy, but I will warn people: THINK,  
>> DAMMIT.  Just
>> because someone put it on a web page with an OpenBSD graphic DOES NOT
>> MAKE IT USEFUL or even close to accurate.
>>
>> With this document, you try to lead people on a long path that  
>> will only
>> sometimes get them where they want to go, and yet, the direct route
>> (snapshots) is simpler, safer and faster.  The long route has  
>> twists and
>> turns you do not warn people about.
>>
>> Nick.
>>
>
> Actually, these instructions were for myself, but i thought i'd  
> share it with the community of openbsd,
> guess it wasnt't such a good idea.
> Yes, installing from a snapshot is easier, but if i want to build a  
> specific part of the system, i dont feel like installing the whole  
> system just to get that specific part, i'll just build it from source.



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-10 Thread Nick Holland
Alari Kask wrote:
... [I *refuse* to post that link again]

I was right, more damage than good.

I *really* wish people would quit accomplishing one little thing,
writing it up in "HOWTO" form, and patting themselves on the back and
thinking they were doing the world some kind of favor by publishing it.

YOU ARE NOT.
I pity the fool who thinks that seeing something in print makes it
somehow true.  There are a lot of such fools, unfortunately.  "Oh, look,
I found it on a web page, it must be true!"

In the free world, you have the right to speak and write as you wish,
regardless of the accuracy, but I will warn people: THINK, DAMMIT.  Just
because someone put it on a web page with an OpenBSD graphic DOES NOT
MAKE IT USEFUL or even close to accurate.

With this document, you try to lead people on a long path that will only
sometimes get them where they want to go, and yet, the direct route
(snapshots) is simpler, safer and faster.  The long route has twists and
turns you do not warn people about.

Nick.



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-10 Thread Alari Kask

On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Han Boetes wrote:


Alari Kask wrote:

Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking
-CURRENT, it's just for getting things done faster, than reading
the cvs instructions on the homepage of openbsd.


I bet you can't make it faster than this. ;-)

  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/OpenBSD-binary-upgrade/



# Han





http://php.khk.tartu.ee/~alari/?p=11



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Han Boetes
Alari Kask wrote:
> Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking
> -CURRENT, it's just for getting things done faster, than reading
> the cvs instructions on the homepage of openbsd.

I bet you can't make it faster than this. ;-)

  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/OpenBSD-binary-upgrade/



# Han



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:53:12 +0200
Alari Kask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking -CURRENT,
> it's just for getting things done faster, than reading the cvs  
> instructions on the homepage of openbsd.
> Any feedback is welcome.
> 
Have you written them with invisible ink? ;-)


-- 
"Security is decided by quality" -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Nick Holland
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0200, Alari Kask wrote:
> Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking -CURRENT,
> it's just for getting things done faster, than reading the cvs  
> instructions on the homepage of openbsd.
> Any feedback is welcome.
 
"Install snapshot"

If you get any fancier than that, you are probably going to be causing a
lot more dammage than good.

Nick.



Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Matthew Weigel

Alari Kask wrote:

Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking -CURRENT,
it's just for getting things done faster, than reading the cvs  
instructions on the homepage of openbsd.


If there's a way to do it faster, without compromising the consistency 
of your system, why not simply send diffs to Nick et al who maintain the 
existing documentation?


Is it actually better than http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld ?
--
 Matthew Weigel
 hacker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Alari Kask

Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking -CURRENT,
it's just for getting things done faster, than reading the cvs  
instructions on the homepage of openbsd.

Any feedback is welcome.