Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-22 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Edd Barrettvex...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a few problems here too (using TeX Live in both OpenBSD 4.6
 and -current, on i386 and amd64); i would suggest sending a detailed
 bug report to the TeX Live developers at this mailing list:

 Ok, we need to consult upstream. Do you want to do that or shall I?

As a followup to all these problem reports, I can offer a success
report: the 'Docbook To Latex Publishing' package (dblatex) installs
easily and seems to produce pdf's just fine from DocBook XML on my
stock off-the-shelf i386 OpenBSD 4.5 box.


Best,

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Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-20 Thread Igor Sobrado
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Eric d'Alibuteric.hali...@gmail.com wrote:

 I bulled ahead and installed the 2008 texlive from TUG, but still
 errors. Say I do:
[...]
 Thoughts? (Sorry if this is such a sketchy report, but I'm pressed for
 time right now!)

we have a few problems here too (using TeX Live in both OpenBSD 4.6
and -current, on i386 and amd64); i would suggest sending a detailed
bug report to the TeX Live developers at this mailing list:

   http://www.tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-live

(if these bugs are unknown, it is a good time to report them as TeX
Live 2009 is being developed yet.) TeX distributions have been stable
for decades; however, in the last years these distributions have grown
out of control. we cannot expect a software package to require 1 GB
and being stable yet. there is no way for so large packages to be
fully tested. i do most of my work using either plain TeX or LaTeX2e.

XML support is a relatively new feature, so we should expect it being
experimental.

i would certainly be happy with a small TeX distribution that supports
only plain TeX and LaTeX2e and a very small subset of packages. other
packages can be easily imported from CTANs, and new features are...
well... experimental yet.



Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-20 Thread Edd Barrett
On 8/20/09, Igor Sobrado igor.sobr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thoughts? (Sorry if this is such a sketchy report, but I'm pressed for
 time right now!)

 we have a few problems here too (using TeX Live in both OpenBSD 4.6
 and -current, on i386 and amd64); i would suggest sending a detailed
 bug report to the TeX Live developers at this mailing list:

Ok, we need to consult upstream. Do you want to do that or shall I?

tex-l...@tug.org.

Does this happen on tl-2009? (the svn version)


 (if these bugs are unknown, it is a good time to report them as TeX
 Live 2009 is being developed yet.)

It's frozen. Sorry. I will be working on this at p2k9 (probably).

 TeX distributions have been stable
 for decades; however, in the last years these distributions have grown
 out of control. we cannot expect a software package to require 1 GB
 and being stable yet. there is no way for so large packages to be
 fully tested. i do most of my work using either plain TeX or LaTeX2e.

Yup. It's a big problem. I have been musing about a hybrid
texlive/miktex package which downloads stuff as needed, but I decided
against it.


 XML support is a relatively new feature, so we should expect it being
 experimental.

 i would certainly be happy with a small TeX distribution that supports
 only plain TeX and LaTeX2e and a very small subset of packages. other
 packages can be easily imported from CTANs, and new features are...
 well... experimental yet.

It's called -minimal :P That is equivilent to tetex. You can then make
your own texmf tree in your home dir.

-- 
Best Regards

Edd Barrett
(Freelance software developer / technical writer / open-source developer)

http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-20 Thread Igor Sobrado
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Edd Barrettvex...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/20/09, Igor Sobrado igor.sobr...@gmail.com wrote:
 we have a few problems here too (using TeX Live in both OpenBSD 4.6
 and -current, on i386 and amd64); i would suggest sending a detailed
 bug report to the TeX Live developers at this mailing list:

 Ok, we need to consult upstream. Do you want to do that or shall I?

 tex-l...@tug.org.

i think that all of us need to consult upstream as we have different
problems with TeX Live (e.g., in my case these problems are mostly
core dumps from xdvi and some annoying messages about missing fonts
(even with -full) when processing some TeX files in the
documentation).

 Does this happen on tl-2009? (the svn version)

i haven't tried it; we are only using binaries from the repository, as
TeX Live is mostly a tool for our work. to be honest, i never
considered participating in the development of a TeX distribution. :-)

 (if these bugs are unknown, it is a good time to report them as TeX
 Live 2009 is being developed yet.)

 It's frozen. Sorry. I will be working on this at p2k9 (probably).

i supposed they were willing to know about bugs yet:

http://www.tug.org/texlive/pretest.html

well, at least we can work improving TeX Live 2010.

 TeX distributions have been stable
 for decades; however, in the last years these distributions have grown
 out of control. we cannot expect a software package to require 1 GB
 and being stable yet. there is no way for so large packages to be
 fully tested. i do most of my work using either plain TeX or LaTeX2e.

 Yup. It's a big problem. I have been musing about a hybrid
 texlive/miktex package which downloads stuff as needed, but I decided
 against it.

it sounds like a challenging work, more than a TeX Live port it was a
new distribution itself. :-)

 XML support is a relatively new feature, so we should expect it being
 experimental.

 i would certainly be happy with a small TeX distribution that supports
 only plain TeX and LaTeX2e and a very small subset of packages. other
 packages can be easily imported from CTANs, and new features are...
 well... experimental yet.

 It's called -minimal :P That is equivilent to tetex. You can then make
 your own texmf tree in your home dir.

fine! i will try it some day. the TUG should consider is publishing a
minimal list of packages that are required for any TeX distribution
(and, as a consequence, used safely on any document to allow it being
processed on any TeX installation), leaving the other ones as
extension packages for more specialized uses or people wishing to do
something non-standard. Even more, the classes for ACM or AMS
publications should be downloaded from their respective organizations
(assuring we have the most up to date classes installed). well, i am
just dreaming.



Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-19 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Edd Barrettvex...@gmail.com wrote:

 Over at the TeX Live camp we are wondering if anyone is using the
 binaries found on the DVD distributed by the TeX User Group on OpenBSD?

I haven't used those particular binaries, but in my quest to get a
working DocBook XML - PDF toolchain set up on OpenBSD 4.5. I did
install texlive from ports, first main, and then full. The binaries
ran but I ran into errors converting .fo to .pdf with pdftex.

I bulled ahead and installed the 2008 texlive from TUG, but still
errors. Say I do:

pdftex --interaction nonstopmode pdfxmltex newtest.fo

Then I get:

-snip-

 (/usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/t1phv.fd
File: t1phv.fd 2001/06/04 scalable font definitions for T1/phv.
)
LaTeX Font Info:Font shape `T1/phv/bx/n' in size 24.8832 not available
(Font)  Font shape `T1/phv/b/n' tried instead on input line 2.


! LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.

-snip-

The file 'newtest.fo' -- from a Docbook 4.2 xml source -- produces pdf
output just fine using a commercial tool.

Thoughts? (Sorry if this is such a sketchy report, but I'm pressed for
time right now!)

-- 
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because I have a pet halibut?



Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-06-01 Thread Stefan Wollny
Am Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:08:19 +0100
schrieb Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Over at the TeX Live camp we are wondering if anyone is using the
 binaries found on the DVD distributed by the TeX User Group on
 OpenBSD?

...

Hi Edd,

please excuse if this may sound odd to you - but do those binaries on
the TeX Live DVD differ to those you provide via
http://www.openbsd.org/4.5_packages/i386/texlive_texmf-full-2008p1.tgz-long.h
tml?

BTW: Thank you for maintaining this port - it works like a charm!

Kind regards,
STEFAN

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