Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
I have very high expectations that this email thread will produce fresh new additions to http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/mg/theo.c very soon. -luis On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Alexander Hall wrote: > On February 19, 2016 3:42:08 PM GMT+01:00, Jorge Luis < > jorgeluiscorreioeletron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Is true that in LibertyBSD, you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, > >while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths > >of > >your system? > > No. The firmware is either already on the hardware itself already or gets > loaded there by the driver. > > If you can't trust the hardware you loose either way. > > Over and out. Read the archives. > > /Alexander
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
On February 19, 2016 3:42:08 PM GMT+01:00, Jorge Luis wrote: >Is true that in LibertyBSD, you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, >while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths >of >your system? No. The firmware is either already on the hardware itself already or gets loaded there by the driver. If you can't trust the hardware you loose either way. Over and out. Read the archives. /Alexander
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
Theo, I'd like to make a comment: I do not want to program and use computers to just a hobby to harm me, if all the software and hardware that exist include non-free code and if is true that non-free code can contain malicious code, I decide not to program and use computers to just a hobby. Is true that OpenBSD ships with several pieces of non-free, binary only firmware in the base system, and depending on the hardware detected, by default a script will download more at first boot, without informing the user of this? Is true that while there may be good reasons for including this firmware, with a default installation you might end up running some of these non-free programs without even knowing it? Is true that in LibertyBSD, you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths of your system? -- View this message in context: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/LibertyBSD-recently-forked-from-OpenBSD-has-been-deblobbed-as-much-as-its-creator-could-see-tp290022p290035.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
I smell astroturfing troll machine. On 2016-02-19 16:46, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 19-02-2016 12:42, Jorge Luis escreveu: "What is LibertyBSD? OpenBSD is universally known as an operating system designed with security in mind, proudly being able to say that it has had "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" Will you please, please, go away?
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
Em 19-02-2016 12:42, Jorge Luis escreveu: > "What is LibertyBSD? > OpenBSD is universally known as an operating system designed with security > in mind, proudly being able to say that it has had "Only two remote holes in > the default install, in a heck of a long time!" Will you please, please, go away?
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
Recurring troll coming from gmail and nabble (you-name-it tomorrow). Zero entry effort. Wasted electricity and skin. Plain simply ignored.
Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
Jorge Luis [jorgeluiscorreioeletron...@gmail.com] wrote: > > Is true that in LibertyBSD, you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, > while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths of > your system? > Yes, in fact the OpenBSD developers are so enthusiastic about this idea, many have abandoned OpenBSD development in favor of the LibertyBSD idea. It's quite astounding!
LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?
http://libertybsd.net/ wrote: "What is LibertyBSD? OpenBSD is universally known as an operating system designed with security in mind, proudly being able to say that it has had "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" However, OpenBSD ships with several pieces of non-free, binary only firmware in the base system, and depending on the hardware detected, by default a script will download more at first boot, without informing the user of this. While there may be good reasons for including this firmware, with a default installation you might end up running some of these non-free programs without even knowing it. That's why I decided to make a "deblobbed" version of OpenBSD. So that you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths of your system. This version is called LibertyBSD." Is true that OpenBSD ships with several pieces of non-free, binary only firmware in the base system, and depending on the hardware detected, by default a script will download more at first boot, without informing the user of this? Is true that while there may be good reasons for including this firmware, with a default installation you might end up running some of these non-free programs without even knowing it? Is true that in LibertyBSD, you can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, while being sure that there are no non-free blobs lurking in the depths of your system? -- View this message in context: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/LibertyBSD-recently-forked-from-OpenBSD-has-been-deblobbed-as-much-as-its-creator-could-see-tp290022.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.