Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Steve Williams]

On 2017-02-23 15:57, Steve Williams wrote:

Hi,

I was going to install the ownCloud package in my OpenBSD server, but
then wondered about Nextcloud.  I was surprised there's no Nextcloud
package.

Does anyone know what the status of the 2 projects are in general?
(the non-OpenBSD specific questioN).

Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has
done one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license,
politics, etc).

From the reading I was able to do, it seems like Nextcloud might be a
smarter investment of time to install than ownCloud.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Steve Williams



Thanks everyone for your input!  I'm going to give Nextcloud a spin 
using the port that's mentioned in this thread.


Cheers,
Steve W.

Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Steve Williams]

On 2017-02-23 17:01, Johan Huldtgren wrote:

hello,


Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has
done one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license, 
politics,

etc).


I've been using owncloud for a few years, but recently switched to 
nextcloud
when an upgrade broke my calendar; this might have been salvageable but 
I'd
been thinking about trying out nextcloud so this was the perfect 
excuse. It

worked well for me, and it seems nextcloud is currently the more active
project consisting of many former owncloud developers. I created a 
package
which I submitted to ports@ the other week, if deemed worthy it might 
get
imported (however the trend has been to remove packages which are 
really

just a tarball to be extracted in /var/www).

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports=148744316527349=2

.jh


Hi,

Thanks for the link to your port!  I'll give it a go.  I like having an 
inventory of software on my system (pkg_info).


I was considering making a port if I went down the Nextcloud road, so 
that's great.


Also, thanks for the info re. your transition from owncloud to 
nextcloud.


Cheers,
Steve W.

Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Alex McWhirter]

For what it's worth I run nextcloud on openbsd. I tend not to use ports
for my web applications, rather i usually install them by hand. It works
fine for me on -stable.

Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Sterling Archer]

Nextcloud isn't just a fork, the founder and most of the engineering team
left owncloud to start nextcloud. You can read more about it here:
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/owncloud-founder-has-forked-their-product-into-nextcloud/

Like Devin, I'm also using owncloud at the moment, though not on openbsd
right now,
and in the process of moving to nextcloud.
If anyone needs help testing a port of nextcloud, I'd be more than willing
to help.
If that could lead to me (and others) running it on OpenBSD, that would be
terrific.

SB

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:26 AM, nacredata  wrote:

> Owncloud is a longer running project, next cloud is the fork, so probably
> there is a package just because it came first. I did see something on a
> list I
> don't remember which one not very long ago at all about someone working on
> the
> next part of the package.
>
> I have been running on cloud on openBSD since version eight, currently on
> 9.0.4, and have also installed a test installation of next cloud from
> source.
> It's just PHP files, it worked fine. We are looking to transition to next
> cloud, as we have had some frustration and getting the community to engage
> with projects we were contributing, difficult to get feedback seems
> unlikely
> to get something integrated and help maintaining it.
>
>
> devin
> --
> contact info: http://nacredata.com/devin
>
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 2017, at 17:57, Steve Williams  com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was going to install the ownCloud package in my OpenBSD server, but
> then
> wondered about Nextcloud.  I was surprised there's no Nextcloud package.
> >
> > Does anyone know what the status of the 2 projects are in general?  (the
> non-OpenBSD specific questioN).
> >
> > Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has done
> one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license, politics, etc).
> >
> > From the reading I was able to do, it seems like Nextcloud might be a
> smarter investment of time to install than ownCloud.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Williams

Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Johan Huldtgren]

hello,

> Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has 
> done one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license, politics, 
> etc).

I've been using owncloud for a few years, but recently switched to nextcloud
when an upgrade broke my calendar; this might have been salvageable but I'd
been thinking about trying out nextcloud so this was the perfect excuse. It
worked well for me, and it seems nextcloud is currently the more active
project consisting of many former owncloud developers. I created a package
which I submitted to ports@ the other week, if deemed worthy it might get
imported (however the trend has been to remove packages which are really
just a tarball to be extracted in /var/www).

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports=148744316527349=2

.jh

Re: OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[nacredata]

Owncloud is a longer running project, next cloud is the fork, so probably
there is a package just because it came first. I did see something on a list I
don't remember which one not very long ago at all about someone working on the
next part of the package.

I have been running on cloud on openBSD since version eight, currently on
9.0.4, and have also installed a test installation of next cloud from source.
It's just PHP files, it worked fine. We are looking to transition to next
cloud, as we have had some frustration and getting the community to engage
with projects we were contributing, difficult to get feedback seems unlikely
to get something integrated and help maintaining it.


devin
--
contact info: http://nacredata.com/devin



> On Feb 23, 2017, at 17:57, Steve Williams 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was going to install the ownCloud package in my OpenBSD server, but then
wondered about Nextcloud.  I was surprised there's no Nextcloud package.
>
> Does anyone know what the status of the 2 projects are in general?  (the
non-OpenBSD specific questioN).
>
> Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has done
one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license, politics, etc).
>
> From the reading I was able to do, it seems like Nextcloud might be a
smarter investment of time to install than ownCloud.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Williams

OT? - ownCloud vs NextCloud

[Steve Williams]

Hi,

I was going to install the ownCloud package in my OpenBSD server, but 
then wondered about Nextcloud.  I was surprised there's no Nextcloud 
package.


Does anyone know what the status of the 2 projects are in general?  (the 
non-OpenBSD specific questioN).


Is there some reason there's no Nextcloud port other than no-one has 
done one?  (yes, this is a reason, but I'm wondering license, politics, 
etc).


From the reading I was able to do, it seems like Nextcloud might be a 
smarter investment of time to install than ownCloud.


Thoughts?

Thanks,
Steve Williams