Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Consus 
On 11:14 Fri 02 Sep, Consus wrote:
> Yeah, you probably should. Also you can use M:Tier, they ship binary
> errata updates: https://stable.mtier.org

There is already a full set of binary patches. These guys are so sweet.

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Jack J. Woehr 

Etienne wrote:

I have noticed that some people tend to use "I have a doubt" with the
meaning "I have a question/issue/problem".


And the native French speaker will sometimes say, "I doubt" meaning "I suspect ..." or 
"I think that ..."

--
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Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Etienne 

On 09/02/16 11:56, bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote:

I have noticed that some people tend to use "I have a doubt" with the
meaning "I have a question/issue/problem".  This is different from
"I'm doubting" which means "I have no confidence in" or "I'm
questioning".

I think it is important to note here that not everyone speaks fluent
English. I think a huge problem within mailing lists in general is the
tendency for people to gang up and focus on petty wording issues, and
associating "attitude" or "tone" with words, focusing on the point
of a post itself.


Completely agree, worth mentioning again and again.

--
Étienne

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Roderick 
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri wrote:

> I think it's the use of the word "doubt" ("a feeling of uncertainty or
> lack of conviction").
>
> I have noticed that some people tend to use "I have a doubt" with the
> meaning "I have a question/issue/problem".  This is different from "I'm
> doubting" which means "I have no confidence in" or "I'm questioning".

Perhaps you have doubts about the meaning of "doubt".

Just see latin "dubius".

But no one will call you or anyone here ignorant because of this,
as the original poster was called ungrateful.

Rodrigo.

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread bytevolcano 
Hello Andreas,

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:29:28 +0200
Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 03:03:15PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> > > On 9/1/16 2:59 PM, R0me0 *** wrote:
> > > > Hello misc,
> > > >
> > > > I have a little doubt
> > > >
> > > > Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> > > >
> > > > This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to
> > > > apply ?
> > >
> > > Yes you need to apply the patch.
> > >
> > > The release was done long ago already it was release to the public
> > > today. Takes time to get all piece together you know.
> > >
> > > Might be more welcome to say thanks to the devs instead don't you
> > > think?
> >
> > So instead of asking "How does this work?" he should say
> > "Thanks!" (and still not know how it works)?
> >
> > I don't see the connection. It was just a question, and at least I
> > could not read anything extra into it.
> >
> > /Alexander
>
> I think it's the use of the word "doubt" ("a feeling of uncertainty or
> lack of conviction").
>
> I have noticed that some people tend to use "I have a doubt" with the
> meaning "I have a question/issue/problem".  This is different from
> "I'm doubting" which means "I have no confidence in" or "I'm
> questioning".
>

I think it is important to note here that not everyone speaks fluent
English. I think a huge problem within mailing lists in general is the
tendency for people to gang up and focus on petty wording issues, and
associating "attitude" or "tone" with words, focusing on the point
of a post itself.

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri 
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 03:03:15PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> > On 9/1/16 2:59 PM, R0me0 *** wrote:
> > > Hello misc,
> > >
> > > I have a little doubt
> > >
> > > Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> > >
> > > This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?
> >
> > Yes you need to apply the patch.
> >
> > The release was done long ago already it was release to the public
> > today. Takes time to get all piece together you know.
> >
> > Might be more welcome to say thanks to the devs instead don't you think?
>
> So instead of asking "How does this work?" he should say "Thanks!" (and
> still not know how it works)?
>
> I don't see the connection. It was just a question, and at least I could
> not read anything extra into it.
>
> /Alexander

I think it's the use of the word "doubt" ("a feeling of uncertainty or
lack of conviction").

I have noticed that some people tend to use "I have a doubt" with the
meaning "I have a question/issue/problem".  This is different from "I'm
doubting" which means "I have no confidence in" or "I'm questioning".



>
> >
> > I am sure they would appreciate that more...
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Daniel
>

--
Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
Bioinformatics Developer
NBIS, Uppsala University
http://www.nbis.se/

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Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Alexander Hall 
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 03:03:15PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> On 9/1/16 2:59 PM, R0me0 *** wrote:
> > Hello misc,
> > 
> > I have a little doubt
> > 
> > Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> > 
> > This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?
> 
> Yes you need to apply the patch.
> 
> The release was done long ago already it was release to the public
> today. Takes time to get all piece together you know.
> 
> Might be more welcome to say thanks to the devs instead don't you think?

So instead of asking "How does this work?" he should say "Thanks!" (and
still not know how it works)?

I don't see the connection. It was just a question, and at least I could
not read anything extra into it.

/Alexander

> 
> I am sure they would appreciate that more...
> 
> Best,
> 
> Daniel

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-02 Thread Consus 
On 15:59 Thu 01 Sep, R0me0 *** wrote:
> Hello misc,
> 
> I have a little doubt
> 
> Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> 
> This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,

Yeah, you probably should. Also you can use M:Tier, they ship binary
errata updates: https://stable.mtier.org

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-01 Thread Francois Pussault 
hello, no apply patches new if you want to

> 
> From: R0me0 *** <knight@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu Sep 01 20:59:43 CEST 2016
> To: OpenBSD Misc <misc@openbsd.org>
> Subject: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html
>
>
> Hello misc,
>
> I have a little doubt
>
> Today was a Official Release of 6.0
>
> This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>


Cordialement
Francois Pussault
10 chemin de négo saoumos
apt 202 - bat 2
31300 Toulouse
+33 6 17 230 820
fpussa...@contactoffice.fr

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-01 Thread R0me0 *** 
Howdy !

Thanks for quick reply

Really appreciated.

Regards,





2016-09-01 16:06 GMT-03:00 Francois Pussault <fpussa...@contactoffice.fr>:

> hello, no apply patches new if you want to
>
> > 
> > From: R0me0 *** <knight@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thu Sep 01 20:59:43 CEST 2016
> > To: OpenBSD Misc <misc@openbsd.org>
> > Subject: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html
> >
> >
> > Hello misc,
> >
> > I have a little doubt
> >
> > Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> >
> > This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
>
>
> Cordialement
> Francois Pussault
> 10 chemin de négo saoumos
> apt 202 - bat 2
> 31300 Toulouse
> +33 6 17 230 820
> fpussa...@contactoffice.fr

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet 
On 9/1/16 2:59 PM, R0me0 *** wrote:
> Hello misc,
> 
> I have a little doubt
> 
> Today was a Official Release of 6.0
> 
> This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?

Yes you need to apply the patch.

The release was done long ago already it was release to the public
today. Takes time to get all piece together you know.

Might be more welcome to say thanks to the devs instead don't you think?

I am sure they would appreciate that more...

Best,

Daniel

OpenBSD 6.0 release and errata60.html

2016-09-01 Thread R0me0 *** 
Hello misc,

I have a little doubt

Today was a Official Release of 6.0

This release already include errata60.html patches or I need to apply ?

Thanks in advance,