Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
Martin Schrvder wrote: On 2005-10-13 07:15:26 -0800, Szechuan Death wrote: there's nothing I care about in Taiwan enough to do so. Alternately, Then stop buying anything manufactured in Taiwan (or China). HTH. HAND. Martin I'm sorry - by what theory do you claim that I have to listen to packets from Taiwan or China because I purchase items made there? Sorry, wrong answer. One has nothing to do with the other. Ohyeah: SD, STFU, FOAD, HTH, HAND! -- (c) 2005 Unscathed Haze via Central Plexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are Free. -Eris Big Brother is watching you. Learn to become Invisible. | Your message must be this wide to ride the Internet. |
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 07:15:26AM -0800, Szechuan Death said that Yup, looks like. Sorry, Charlie. Take a flight to Taipei and snuff a spammer or scriptkiddie, if everybody does that TW can be put back on the Civilized Net Nation list. Arguments that US contains the most spam lords will be directed to /dev/null, I invite anybody who wants to what i can't really understand is, why bother making a tool like this, if you are afraid that it is going to be used, or that someone will ssh scan you from taiwan? so let's just block all the non us countries or what? I'm not afraid that it's going to be used. I _want_ it to be used, I never suggested otherwise. I'm not blocking non-US countries, I'm blocking shitholes. The more people blackhole shitholes, the better off the world is in the long run, this provides shitholes with an incentive to no longer be shitholes. (What do you mean, I can't download the latest Britney video? DAAAD, the neighborhood spammer is making my Internet stop again! All right, honey. Grab the machete, let's go take out that guy on the corner who sells penis pills. When he's gone, the network will come back.) I choose to block some places. The rest may be blocked or not at my leisure. The tool makes that oh so easy. I wish I had a way to break it down into U.S. states (Florida would be GONE, another notorious shithole), but can't do that w/o reference to ARIN's WHOIS secret sauce database. We'll see how it goes. Don't hold your breath for that one. I made it because I'm a scorched earth kind of a guy. I have received enough SSH scans, spams, and other miscellaneous malicious traffic from certain countries that I simply do not care to hear anything else from them, ever again. I am this close to blocking some of the Eastern European countries, they irritate me. if you are afraid of the big bad internet, turn off your machine. See, astonishingly enough, from any of those netblocks, it appears that that is precisely what I have done. Amazing, huh? I think you need a serious education about what rights you actually have. I do not _have_ to listen to or respond to any traffic from anybody, the end. I respond to whom I choose. you know, smtp and ssh do not use port 80 maybe you could open it up. the horror, the horror. I was afraid this might happen. See, here's the problem: I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK IS 'REASONABLE'. I DO NOT HAVE TO. YOUR OPINION IS OF ZERO IMPORTANCE TO ANYBODY OTHER THAN YOU. GET USED TO THIS IDEA. It is *my* network connection. I have determined that these countries do not carry traffic worth listening to, that the costs of listening to them (time, energy, frustration, money, etc.) exceeds the costs of not doing so. Fiat obscurum.[1] I have also determined that it is not worth removing those blocks for the purpose of this project, since I do not plan to host it longer than I absolutely have to. I am merely developing this resource, I do not possess the resources to host it myself past initial development/beta stage. If you would like to host it on a We Are The World-enabled host, by all means, feel free, I'd love to get it on a decent connection. If there are people out there in TeeVeeLand from those countries who have a clue and are interested in viewing it, as I said, use Tor or another proxy not inside one of those netblocks. I do value your input, but not enough to grab my ankles. Sorry. Thank your countrymen. Yes, I am an asshole. Yes, I am sorry for the clued who live in these benighted countries, I am sympathetic to their plight. No, I am not sympathetic enough to unblock these places. Yes, I do recommend staking spammers and scriptkiddies to fix this problem instead, for a variety of ethical and aesthetic reasons. Until the happy Day of the Stake, however, I will continue blocking these countries until they begin acting in aggregate like human beings on the Internet. If you have any useful comments about other aspects of the Metastore, on the other hand, feel free to let me know. This one is a non-starter, though. -- (c) 2005 Unscathed Haze via Central Plexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are Free. -Eris Big Brother is watching you. Learn to become Invisible. | Your message must be this wide to ride the Internet. | [1] Me no speak Latin good. Someone want to provide the proper Latin for Let there be dark?
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:15:26 -0800 Szechuan Death [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternately, find an ISP that is not so braindamaged that they get netblocks from another country. Well, we ARE the ISP and no, it's not braindamaged of us to get netblocks from Taiwan (for numerous reasons that is beyond the scope of this discussion). I really dont feel like renumbering our entire network and all our clients so getting different IP's arent a solution. Using Tor is though, had completely forgot that I have Tor installed. --- Lars Hansson
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
hmm, on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:06:35PM -0800, Szechuan Death said that I think you need a serious education about what rights you actually have. I do not _have_ to listen to or respond to any traffic from anybody, the end. I respond to whom I choose. never said a word about rights. you make an application to collect data worldwide then you block half of it. Yes, I am an asshole. couldn't agree more. asinus ad lyram -f -- selfishness is a vice we see only in others.
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
what i can't really understand is, why bother making a tool like this, if you are afraid that it is going to be used, or that someone will ssh scan you from taiwan? so let's just block all the non us countries or what? I'm not afraid that it's going to be used. I _want_ it to be used, I never suggested otherwise. I'm not blocking non-US countries, I'm blocking shitholes. The more people blackhole shitholes, the better off the world is in the long run, this provides shitholes with an incentive to no longer be shitholes. (What do you mean, I can't through the magick of PF's ordered filtering, you could allow all inbound on port 80, and THEN block your desired ranges.
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:19:49 -0400, Matt Rowley wrote: what i can't really understand is, why bother making a tool like this, if you are afraid that it is going to be used, or that someone will ssh scan you from taiwan? so let's just block all the non us countries or what? I'm not afraid that it's going to be used. I _want_ it to be used, I never suggested otherwise. I'm not blocking non-US countries, I'm blocking shitholes. The more people blackhole shitholes, the better off the world is in the long run, this provides shitholes with an incentive to no longer be shitholes. (What do you mean, I can't through the magick of PF's ordered filtering, you could allow all inbound on port 80, and THEN block your desired ranges. Matt, I really don't know why you bother. He is rabid and beyond logic, poor baby. I block smtp access using spamd from .kr and .cn and spews1 and I don't get more than 1 or 2 spams a month except from lists that I am subscribed to. I can del one or two a day without getting hypertensive but I don't think the little Tourettes baby can make that kind of connection with reality. I use the don't let in Linux to ssh pf capability on one machine and the connection rate facility on the newer ones. He would rather rave than use whatever is left of his brain to do something like that. Probably hormonal ego tripping or a giant inferiority complex overcorrection. Leave him be. Thanks, In the beginning was The Word and The Word was Content-type: text/plain The Word of Rod. Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list. Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.
OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
New stuff has been added. Thanks to those who provided me information on the Plextor PX-716A, the RouterBoard rb44, the Zonet ZEW2500p, and the SysKonnect SK-98xx series. A problem with Internet Explorer (naw, really?) that was reported to me as preventing comments from being added has been fixed, so now comments should work from IE as well. (Of course, Microsoft makes liars of us all at times.) For those who didn't know, the MetaStore is at the following link: http://www.sdeath.net/obsdstore PROVIDE INFORMATION! Any piece of kit that you know works under some version of OpenBSD and can be purchased as new is fair game, and every bit of information you provide helps! In the two weeks this has been up, there have been 1200 views of the page. Further, 97 links have been clicked through to a dealer purchase page. That isn't bad. While there is no way for anyone to identify how many actual purchases are made, nor what trend might obtain in the future, it is an interesting statistic nonetheless. I think this experiment might actually work, but we'll see what happens. Again, thanks to all contributors, and please, continue sending information! -- (c) 2005 Unscathed Haze via Central Plexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are Free. -Eris Big Brother is watching you. Learn to become Invisible. | Your message must be this wide to ride the Internet. |
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
For those who didn't know, the MetaStore is at the following link: http://www.sdeath.net/obsdstore Maybe it's just me but I've never been able to connect to that site: $ telnet www.sdeath.net 80 Trying 64.4.231.19... telnet: connect to address 64.4.231.19: Connection timed out --- Lars Hansson
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
Lars Hansson wrote: For those who didn't know, the MetaStore is at the following link: http://www.sdeath.net/obsdstore Maybe it's just me but I've never been able to connect to that site: $ telnet www.sdeath.net 80 Trying 64.4.231.19... telnet: connect to address 64.4.231.19: Connection timed out --- Lars Hansson $ telnet www.sdeath.net 80 Trying 64.4.231.19... Connected to www.sdeath.net. Escape character is '^]'. Try a traceroute or tcptraceroute
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:55:47 -0800 Szechuan Death [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, he's probably bouncing off my router. While I don't think he's running afoul of my OpenBSD pf-friendly auto-retrieval and aggregator for netblocks by country (http://www.sdeath.net/cb/, if anybody cares), in that I don't specifically block .ph, Our ip addresses are assigned from TWNIC, even though we're not actually in Taiwan, so that's probably why. The CIDR blocks in question is 203.65.244.0/22 and 203.65.248.0/22. It's not that great to have an obenbsd store that is inaccesible from a large part of the world though? --- Lars Hansson
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
Lars Hansson wrote: Our ip addresses are assigned from TWNIC, even though we're not actually in Taiwan, so that's probably why. The CIDR blocks in question is 203.65.244.0/22 and 203.65.248.0/22. # cb findip 203.65.244.1 203.65.248.1 Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Yup, looks like. Sorry, Charlie. Take a flight to Taipei and snuff a spammer or scriptkiddie, if everybody does that TW can be put back on the Civilized Net Nation list. Arguments that US contains the most spam lords will be directed to /dev/null, I invite anybody who wants to to fly to Miami and snuff the top 20 archspammers too. Sorry, I don't feel like unblocking Taiwan and watching my logs fill with SSH scans, there's nothing I care about in Taiwan enough to do so. Alternately, find an ISP that is not so braindamaged that they get netblocks from another country. For a third choice, use tor or find a proxy that is in a netblock that is not allocated to one of the following countries: # cb showcc Blocked countries: AO (ANGOLA) BJ (BENIN) BF (BURKINA FASO) BI (BURUNDI) KH (CAMBODIA) CM (CAMEROON) CF (CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC) TD (CHAD) CN (CHINA) CD (CONGO, Democratic Republic of (was Zaire)) CG (CONGO, People's Republic of) CI (COTE D'IVOIRE) DJ (DJIBOUTI) GQ (EQUATORIAL GUINEA) ER (ERITREA) ET (ETHIOPIA) GA (GABON) GM (GAMBIA) GH (GHANA) GW (GUINEA-BISSAU) HT (HAITI) HK (HONG KONG) IR (IRAN (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF)) KE (KENYA) KP (KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) KR (KOREA, REPUBLIC OF) LA (LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC) LB (LEBANON) LS (LESOTHO) LR (LIBERIA) LY (LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA) MW (MALAWI) ML (MALI) MR (MAURITANIA) MZ (MOZAMBIQUE) MM (MYANMAR) NA (NAMIBIA) NE (NIGER) NG (NIGERIA) PK (PAKISTAN) PS (PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, Occupied) RW (RWANDA) SN (SENEGAL) SL (SIERRA LEONE) SG (SINGAPORE) SO (SOMALIA) SD (SUDAN) SZ (SWAZILAND) TW (TAIWAN) TZ (TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF) UG (UGANDA) VN (VIET NAM) YE (YEMEN) ZM (ZAMBIA) ZW (ZIMBABWE) Note: anybody from any one of these countries, the same goes for you. Again, sorry. Don't complain about it, just go kill your spammers and scriptkiddiez and all is forgiven. I recommend cudgels, impalement on the stake, or forced immolation. It's not that great to have an obenbsd store that is inaccesible from a large part of the world though? I don't intend to host this for one second longer than I have to. I'm already uneasy, it's already showing up on Google and I imagine that it's going to get slashdotted at some point if it goes much further. This is not going to be live on my home DSL connection, it's going to be hosted somewhere else with a real Net connection (preferably openbsd.org), or it's going to go quietly away after I'm done beta- testing it, the end. You'll probably be able to access it then. -- (c) 2005 Unscathed Haze via Central Plexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are Free. -Eris Big Brother is watching you. Learn to become Invisible. | Your message must be this wide to ride the Internet. |
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
And of course this message ended up in my spam-filter, and I'm not even going to tell it it was a mistake. =) Szechuan Death wrote: Lars Hansson wrote: Our ip addresses are assigned from TWNIC, even though we're not actually in Taiwan, so that's probably why. The CIDR blocks in question is 203.65.244.0/22 and 203.65.248.0/22. # cb findip 203.65.244.1 203.65.248.1 Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Yup, looks like. Sorry, Charlie. Take a flight to Taipei and snuff a spammer or scriptkiddie, if everybody does that TW can be put back on the Civilized Net Nation list. Arguments that US contains the most spam lords will be directed to /dev/null, I invite anybody who wants to to fly to Miami and snuff the top 20 archspammers too. Sorry, I don't feel like unblocking Taiwan and watching my logs fill with SSH scans, there's nothing I care about in Taiwan enough to do so. Alternately, find an ISP that is not so braindamaged that they get netblocks from another country. For a third choice, use tor or find a proxy that is in a netblock that is not allocated to one of the following countries: # cb showcc Blocked countries: AO (ANGOLA) BJ (BENIN) BF (BURKINA FASO) BI (BURUNDI) KH (CAMBODIA) CM (CAMEROON) CF (CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC) TD (CHAD) CN (CHINA) CD (CONGO, Democratic Republic of (was Zaire)) CG (CONGO, People's Republic of) CI (COTE D'IVOIRE) DJ (DJIBOUTI) GQ (EQUATORIAL GUINEA) ER (ERITREA) ET (ETHIOPIA) GA (GABON) GM (GAMBIA) GH (GHANA) GW (GUINEA-BISSAU) HT (HAITI) HK (HONG KONG) IR (IRAN (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF)) KE (KENYA) KP (KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) KR (KOREA, REPUBLIC OF) LA (LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC) LB (LEBANON) LS (LESOTHO) LR (LIBERIA) LY (LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA) MW (MALAWI) ML (MALI) MR (MAURITANIA) MZ (MOZAMBIQUE) MM (MYANMAR) NA (NAMIBIA) NE (NIGER) NG (NIGERIA) PK (PAKISTAN) PS (PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, Occupied) RW (RWANDA) SN (SENEGAL) SL (SIERRA LEONE) SG (SINGAPORE) SO (SOMALIA) SD (SUDAN) SZ (SWAZILAND) TW (TAIWAN) TZ (TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF) UG (UGANDA) VN (VIET NAM) YE (YEMEN) ZM (ZAMBIA) ZW (ZIMBABWE) Note: anybody from any one of these countries, the same goes for you. Again, sorry. Don't complain about it, just go kill your spammers and scriptkiddiez and all is forgiven. I recommend cudgels, impalement on the stake, or forced immolation. It's not that great to have an obenbsd store that is inaccesible from a large part of the world though? I don't intend to host this for one second longer than I have to. I'm already uneasy, it's already showing up on Google and I imagine that it's going to get slashdotted at some point if it goes much further. This is not going to be live on my home DSL connection, it's going to be hosted somewhere else with a real Net connection (preferably openbsd.org), or it's going to go quietly away after I'm done beta- testing it, the end. You'll probably be able to access it then. # Han
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
As you want everyone to look at this can help, you *should* probably remove the blocking you have in place. Just my $0.02 worth. On 10/13/05, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course this message ended up in my spam-filter, and I'm not even going to tell it it was a mistake. =) Szechuan Death wrote: Lars Hansson wrote: Our ip addresses are assigned from TWNIC, even though we're not actually in Taiwan, so that's probably why. The CIDR blocks in question is 203.65.244.0/22 http://203.65.244.0/22 and 203.65.248.0/22 http://203.65.248.0/22. # cb findip 203.65.244.1 http://203.65.244.1 203.65.248.1http://203.65.248.1 Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 http://203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Netblock 203.64.0.0/14 http://203.64.0.0/14 is in country TW (TAIWAN) Yup, looks like. Sorry, Charlie. Take a flight to Taipei and snuff a spammer or scriptkiddie, if everybody does that TW can be put back on the Civilized Net Nation list. Arguments that US contains the most spam lords will be directed to /dev/null, I invite anybody who wants to to fly to Miami and snuff the top 20 archspammers too. Sorry, I don't feel like unblocking Taiwan and watching my logs fill with SSH scans, there's nothing I care about in Taiwan enough to do so. Alternately, find an ISP that is not so braindamaged that they get netblocks from another country. For a third choice, use tor or find a proxy that is in a netblock that is not allocated to one of the following countries: # cb showcc Blocked countries: AO (ANGOLA) BJ (BENIN) BF (BURKINA FASO) BI (BURUNDI) KH (CAMBODIA) CM (CAMEROON) CF (CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC) TD (CHAD) CN (CHINA) CD (CONGO, Democratic Republic of (was Zaire)) CG (CONGO, People's Republic of) CI (COTE D'IVOIRE) DJ (DJIBOUTI) GQ (EQUATORIAL GUINEA) ER (ERITREA) ET (ETHIOPIA) GA (GABON) GM (GAMBIA) GH (GHANA) GW (GUINEA-BISSAU) HT (HAITI) HK (HONG KONG) IR (IRAN (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF)) KE (KENYA) KP (KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) KR (KOREA, REPUBLIC OF) LA (LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC) LB (LEBANON) LS (LESOTHO) LR (LIBERIA) LY (LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA) MW (MALAWI) ML (MALI) MR (MAURITANIA) MZ (MOZAMBIQUE) MM (MYANMAR) NA (NAMIBIA) NE (NIGER) NG (NIGERIA) PK (PAKISTAN) PS (PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, Occupied) RW (RWANDA) SN (SENEGAL) SL (SIERRA LEONE) SG (SINGAPORE) SO (SOMALIA) SD (SUDAN) SZ (SWAZILAND) TW (TAIWAN) TZ (TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF) UG (UGANDA) VN (VIET NAM) YE (YEMEN) ZM (ZAMBIA) ZW (ZIMBABWE) Note: anybody from any one of these countries, the same goes for you. Again, sorry. Don't complain about it, just go kill your spammers and scriptkiddiez and all is forgiven. I recommend cudgels, impalement on the stake, or forced immolation. It's not that great to have an obenbsd store that is inaccesible from a large part of the world though? I don't intend to host this for one second longer than I have to. I'm already uneasy, it's already showing up on Google and I imagine that it's going to get slashdotted at some point if it goes much further. This is not going to be live on my home DSL connection, it's going to be hosted somewhere else with a real Net connection (preferably openbsd.org http://openbsd.org), or it's going to go quietly away after I'm done beta- testing it, the end. You'll probably be able to access it then. # Han
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
hmm, on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 07:15:26AM -0800, Szechuan Death said that Yup, looks like. Sorry, Charlie. Take a flight to Taipei and snuff a spammer or scriptkiddie, if everybody does that TW can be put back on the Civilized Net Nation list. Arguments that US contains the most spam lords will be directed to /dev/null, I invite anybody who wants to what i can't really understand is, why bother making a tool like this, if you are afraid that it is going to be used, or that someone will ssh scan you from taiwan? so let's just block all the non us countries or what? if you are afraid of the big bad internet, turn off your machine. you know, smtp and ssh do not use port 80 maybe you could open it up. the horror, the horror. -f -- there is too much blood in my caffiene stream!
Re: OpenBSD Metastore: New kit, thanks
On 2005-10-13 07:15:26 -0800, Szechuan Death wrote: there's nothing I care about in Taiwan enough to do so. Alternately, Then stop buying anything manufactured in Taiwan (or China). HTH. HAND. Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de
