Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 02:12:36PM -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: OpenAFS is part of the base distro. no it isn't. and it's for i386 only. K.Andri Braselmann -- O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
OpenBSD as a storage SAN
Dear gentleman/madam, i would like to use openbsd in order to build a SAN solution, i.e., one that provides block access to the box's disks. I want to build a SAN, not a NAS. Is it possible? Thank in advance.
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
2009/6/3 Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: Dear gentleman/madam, i would like to use openbsd in order to build a SAN solution, i.e., one that provides block access to the box's disks. I want to build a SAN, not a NAS. Is it possible? Thank in advance. I'm no expert, and I've never worked with SANs, but since the defining characteristic of a SAN is that it makes remote storage devices appear locally attached to the OS, let me ask: Do you want remote storage devices appear locally attached to other OpenBSD servers, or to what kind of server? Granted, depending on the protocol used/design of your SAN it may not matter much, as things like SCSI, ATA over Ethernet, etc. ought to be OS-agnostic, but still I'm curious, and sort of trying to understand where you're going with this. Also --and I apologize if this is too trivial-- if I were asked to implement a SAN, I would first of all try to be specific and see what protocol would be required, or, if I were able/expected to build a new SAN from scratch and choose a protocol/decide how to implement it myself, then I'd try to figure out what makes the short list, and in this case, if any of those programs/drivers are available for, or can be ported to OpenBSD. I'd e.g. look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_area_network#Network_types and google for those technologies in the misc archives (haven't done this, but I'm not the one gunning for a SAN). So precisely what SAN technologies/software/hardware are you trying to use with OpenBSD? For what it's worth, the opposite --accessing an existing SAN from OpenBSD-- seems to have been discussed in the past: http://marc.info/?t=12351424634r=1w=2 regards, --ropers
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
I am planing this: With iSCSI i would like to implement on OpenBSD server (target) and various boxes linux, win and openbsd too, i.e., they (the clients) would be the initiators. That simple like that. So, the question is: Does OBSD support iSCSI (both target and initiator)? I am really in need of that, may some one help me? Thanks in advance. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/3 Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: Dear gentleman/madam, i would like to use openbsd in order to build a SAN solution, i.e., one that provides block access to the box's disks. I want to build a SAN, not a NAS. Is it possible? Thank in advance. I'm no expert, and I've never worked with SANs, but since the defining characteristic of a SAN is that it makes remote storage devices appear locally attached to the OS, let me ask: Do you want remote storage devices appear locally attached to other OpenBSD servers, or to what kind of server? Granted, depending on the protocol used/design of your SAN it may not matter much, as things like SCSI, ATA over Ethernet, etc. ought to be OS-agnostic, but still I'm curious, and sort of trying to understand where you're going with this. Also --and I apologize if this is too trivial-- if I were asked to implement a SAN, I would first of all try to be specific and see what protocol would be required, or, if I were able/expected to build a new SAN from scratch and choose a protocol/decide how to implement it myself, then I'd try to figure out what makes the short list, and in this case, if any of those programs/drivers are available for, or can be ported to OpenBSD. I'd e.g. look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_area_network#Network_types and google for those technologies in the misc archives (haven't done this, but I'm not the one gunning for a SAN). So precisely what SAN technologies/software/hardware are you trying to use with OpenBSD? For what it's worth, the opposite --accessing an existing SAN from OpenBSD-- seems to have been discussed in the past: http://marc.info/?t=12351424634r=1w=2 regards, --ropers
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
OpenAFS is part of the base distro. Regards -Lars
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: OpenAFS is part of the base distro. no it isn't. the arla afs *client* is, but the afs server (milko) isn't. openafs is in ports. -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com writes: OpenAFS is part of the base distro. Where? //art
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: OpenAFS is part of the base distro. no it isn't. the arla afs *client* is, but the afs server (milko) isn't. openafs is in ports. arla != openafs openafs doesn't stand a chance of getting into the base because it is fake-free.
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
iscsi support does not exist yet. Maybe try FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. Friedrich Locke wrote: I am planing this: With iSCSI i would like to implement on OpenBSD server (target) and various boxes linux, win and openbsd too, i.e., they (the clients) would be the initiators. That simple like that. So, the question is: Does OBSD support iSCSI (both target and initiator)? I am really in need of that, may some one help me? Thanks in advance. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/3 Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: Dear gentleman/madam, i would like to use openbsd in order to build a SAN solution, i.e., one that provides block access to the box's disks. I want to build a SAN, not a NAS. Is it possible? Thank in advance. I'm no expert, and I've never worked with SANs, but since the defining characteristic of a SAN is that it makes remote storage devices appear locally attached to the OS, let me ask: Do you want remote storage devices appear locally attached to other OpenBSD servers, or to what kind of server? Granted, depending on the protocol used/design of your SAN it may not matter much, as things like SCSI, ATA over Ethernet, etc. ought to be OS-agnostic, but still I'm curious, and sort of trying to understand where you're going with this. Also --and I apologize if this is too trivial-- if I were asked to implement a SAN, I would first of all try to be specific and see what protocol would be required, or, if I were able/expected to build a new SAN from scratch and choose a protocol/decide how to implement it myself, then I'd try to figure out what makes the short list, and in this case, if any of those programs/drivers are available for, or can be ported to OpenBSD. I'd e.g. look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_area_network#Network_types and google for those technologies in the misc archives (haven't done this, but I'm not the one gunning for a SAN). So precisely what SAN technologies/software/hardware are you trying to use with OpenBSD? For what it's worth, the opposite --accessing an existing SAN from OpenBSD-- seems to have been discussed in the past: http://marc.info/?t=12351424634r=1w=2 regards, --ropers
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
Lars Nooden wrote: OpenAFS is part of the base distro. No. The base includes arla, an AFS client.
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
Chris Kuethe wrote: the arla afs *client* is, That's the part I have most contact with. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afsd http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afsd.conf ... but the afs server (milko) isn't. openafs is in ports. Thanks. I stand half-corrected. ;) http://www.openbsd.org/4.5_packages/i386/openafs-1.4.7p5.tgz-long.html Regards, -Lars
Re: OpenBSD as a storage SAN
-Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Friedrich Locke Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:11 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD as a storage SAN Dear gentleman/madam, i would like to use openbsd in order to build a SAN solution, i.e., one that provides block access to the box's disks. I want to build a SAN, not a NAS. Is it possible? Thank in advance. Currently, there are no iSCSI implimentations in ports, AFAIK. Marco is working on softraid (which, personally I like to call softscsi) and has some initial work done on iSCSI and AoE (ATA over Ethernet), but neither is very ready for primetime. Anathae
