Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Ng
Hi,

wonderful!

Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing some kind of
step-through or guide:)

Regards

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:31:43 +0200, Johan SANCHEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Hi
 Less than 1.5 GB :) 
 root and home fs are inside wdO which is :
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MPB3064ATU E
 Cheers 
 
 
 
  Hi Johan,
  
  interesting. How much disk space would I need to get the same or
  similiar setup?
  
  Regards
  Andrew
  
  On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:42:06 +0200, Johan SANCHEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  said:
   Hi list,
   
   Quite useless thread indeed ... :-/
   Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running
   OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
   But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable
   on servers i made
   few screenshots on my main workstation ...
   Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop
   
   Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .
   
  -- 
Andrew Ng
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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-- 
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Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Roy Morris
 Hi,
 
 wonderful!
 
 Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
 lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing 
 some kind of
 step-through or guide:)
 
 Regards
it's been done check the archives.



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Greg Thomas
On 4/17/06, Andrew Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 wonderful!

 Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
 lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing some kind of
 step-through or guide:)


A step-through guide for what?  If you're familiar enough with OpenBSD
to have installed it as a server and your hardware is supported then
it's trivial.  You install OpenBSD including X, and use pkg_add to
your heart's content.  Java and Flash are a little tricky but they're
mentioned in the FAQ, and I've never bothered with KDE or gnome.

Greg

Greg



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
 lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing 
 some kind of
 step-through or guide:)

What kind of a guide is needed? Install the x* file sets, and pkg_add your
applications. 

Why do people have the idea that a Unix desktop system is such a wildly
different beast than a server? Is it because vendors like Red Hat and SuSE
put out different distributions for each role?

DS



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
  Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
  lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing 
  some kind of
  step-through or guide:)
 
 What kind of a guide is needed? Install the x* file sets, and pkg_add your
 applications. 

Hi,
Personnally i prefer use the ports tree or compile from the sources
but even if that s not that complicated it could be useful to read
in what order or what way libs or dependancies must be installed,
just to avoid time loss at least ...
Cheers



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Johan SANCHEZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What kind of a guide is needed? Install the x* file sets, 
 and pkg_add your
  applications. 
 
 Hi,
 Personnally i prefer use the ports tree or compile from the sources
 but even if that s not that complicated it could be useful to read
 in what order or what way libs or dependancies must be installed,
 just to avoid time loss at least ...

I'm not sure I understand. You automatically resolve dependencies installing
either through the ports tree or if $PKG_PATH is set correctly for packages.
And for a decent source-based installation, you should know up front which
dependencies are required so that you can install them (ports or packages
most often available).

Plus if avoiding time loss is the question, packages seems like an obvious
answer (where a package is available of course.)

DS



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 08:11:16PM +0200, Johan SANCHEZ wrote:
   Certainly want to try this when I can find time. Forgive me for being
   lazy, but probably could encourage more to try by providing 
   some kind of
   step-through or guide:)
  
  What kind of a guide is needed? Install the x* file sets, and pkg_add your
  applications. 
 
 Hi,
 Personnally i prefer use the ports tree or compile from the sources
 but even if that s not that complicated it could be useful to read
 in what order or what way libs or dependancies must be installed,
 just to avoid time loss at least ...
 Cheers

Ports will automatically do the right thing. Installing from source is
understandably not supported, but reading ports it shouldn't be too hard
either.

More to the point, select some packages you want to have installed, and
use either pkg_add or make install with the proper arguments/in the
proper directories. Both systems will automatically pull in all
dependencies.

Joachim



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-17 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:05:08 -0700
Spruell, Darren-Perot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Johan SANCHEZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   What kind of a guide is needed? Install the x* file sets, 
  and pkg_add your
   applications. 
  
  Hi,
  Personnally i prefer use the ports tree or compile from the sources
  but even if that s not that complicated it could be useful to read
  in what order or what way libs or dependancies must be installed,
  just to avoid time loss at least ...
 
 I'm not sure I understand. You automatically resolve dependencies installing
 either through the ports tree or if $PKG_PATH is set correctly for packages.
 And for a decent source-based installation, you should know up front which
 dependencies are required so that you can install them (ports or packages
 most often available).
 
 Plus if avoiding time loss is the question, packages seems like an obvious
 answer (where a package is available of course.)

I was not talking for myself :)



OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
Hi list,

Quite useless thread indeed ... :-/
Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running 
OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable on 
servers i made
few screenshots on my main workstation ...
Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop

Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Andrew Ng
Hi Johan,

interesting. How much disk space would I need to get the same or
similiar setup?

Regards
Andrew

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:42:06 +0200, Johan SANCHEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Hi list,
 
 Quite useless thread indeed ... :-/
 Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running
 OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
 But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable
 on servers i made
 few screenshots on my main workstation ...
 Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop
 
 Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .
 
-- 
  Andrew Ng
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
Hi
Less than 1.5 GB :) 
root and home fs are inside wdO which is :
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MPB3064ATU E
Cheers 



 Hi Johan,
 
 interesting. How much disk space would I need to get the same or
 similiar setup?
 
 Regards
 Andrew
 
 On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:42:06 +0200, Johan SANCHEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
  Hi list,
  
  Quite useless thread indeed ... :-/
  Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running
  OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
  But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable
  on servers i made
  few screenshots on my main workstation ...
  Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop
  
  Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .
  
 -- 
   Andrew Ng
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- 
 http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Johan,

Sunday, April 16, 2006, 5:42:06 AM, you wrote:

JS Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running 
OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
JS But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable 
on servers i made
JS few screenshots on my main workstation ...
JS Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop

JS Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .

I think I am going to do this too... I have three OBSD servers,  and
would like to run it on the desktop as well, primarily for Internet
interface... web, mail, etc.


-wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/
.   http://robertwittig.net/



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Darrin Chandler
A couple of weeks ago the computer my wife uses became so bad in terms
of performance and maintenance that I decided to replace WinXP with
OpenBSD. I'd wanted to do it a long time ago, but I was worried that the
transition would be too much. My wife is not a technical person, and has
only ever used Windows, but she was willing to try.

I installed OpenBSD and KDE, with Firefox and Mozilla. She had already
been using Firefox and Mozilla, so I copied her old configs  data. She
kept her mail, settings, bookmarks, and everything! I had to hand-edit a
touch to make them look in the right place for the profiles, but that
was easy enough.

Since the switch she's had nothing but good to say about it. That's from
a non-technical Windows user.

Only problem so far: I had to set the user agent override in
Firefox so that TurboTax online would think we were running Windoze. Of
course their site worked fine with OpenBSD. They were just too braindead
to consider anything except consumer versions of Windows or Mac.

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



Re: OpenBSD as workstation...yes!

2006-04-16 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:25:33 -0500
Robert C Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Johan,
 
 Sunday, April 16, 2006, 5:42:06 AM, you wrote:
 
 JS Due to hard disk crash i decided to migrate the only machine not running 
 OpenBSD to OpenBSD.
 JS But tired hearing here and there than OpenBSD is only useful and reliable 
 on servers i made
 JS few screenshots on my main workstation ...
 JS Here it is  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/opendesktop
 
 JS Thanks again OpenBSD for this to be possible .
 
 I think I am going to do this too... I have three OBSD servers,  and
 would like to run it on the desktop as well, primarily for Internet
 interface... web, mail, etc.

I already used OpenBSD as workstation past few years on mk68 and sparc/sparc64
but here is much hardware and apps to deal with.
I only have pain to use my old mach64 all in wonder (PCI) as tv with 
gatos/gatitv/xatitv

Cheers