Re: OpenBSD has bad security
Bryan Brake wrote: Bryan Irvine wrote: For a laugh go here. http://wideopenbsd.org/ How much does it cost to register a domain these days? Is it registered to Dave Feustel? The author of the site appears to go above and beyond to spread FUD... I mean, he uses HTML and even has an image. sarcasmI think he's serious folks/sarcasm Bryan Brake Who is Dave Feustel? - Lasse Bach
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
In the html, there is a reference to an easter egg: !-- Here's the WideOpenBSD.ORG easter egg $ dig quote.wideopenbsd.org txt -- The output is (thanks B for the output, meant to reply to the list originally): ; DiG 9.2.2 quote.wideopenbsd.org txt ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41571 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;quote.wideopenbsd.org. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: quote.wideopenbsd.org. 3600IN TXT [xxx] goddamn I love openssh [xxx] it never takes more than 2-6 lines to turn the client into an exploit ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: wideopenbsd.org.2005IN NS ns14.zoneedit.com. wideopenbsd.org.2005IN NS ns15.zoneedit.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns14.zoneedit.com. 119162 IN A 209.126.137.108 ns15.zoneedit.com. 134976 IN A 69.10.134.195 ;; Query time: 301 msec ;; SERVER: 10.0.0.1#53(10.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Mon Mar 6 10:39:00 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 238 Am I missing something? Was expecting to find an openssh/openbsd exploit since he touts how numerous/easy they are. Axton Grams On 3/6/06, Bryan Brake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Irvine wrote: For a laugh go here. http://wideopenbsd.org/ How much does it cost to register a domain these days? Is it registered to Dave Feustel? The author of the site appears to go above and beyond to spread FUD... I mean, he uses HTML and even has an image. sarcasmI think he's serious folks/sarcasm Bryan Brake
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
On Monday 06 March 2006 13:37, Bryan Brake wrote: Bryan Irvine wrote: For a laugh go here. http://wideopenbsd.org/ How much does it cost to register a domain these days? Is it registered to Dave Feustel? The whois wideopenbsd.org reveals: Tech Name:Registration Private Which I believe invalidates the whole idea of having a whois service so we can contact the domain administrators... I mean if Google and MS both have whois contacts listed, why should people be allowed to keep their information private, but I digress. I don't think that your comment about Dave owning the domain was called for. Dave is not the owner of the domain, in fact see his question to the fisrt time this was posted way back in 2004: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=109974430125648w=2 author of the site appears to go above and beyond to spread FUD... I mean, he uses HTML and even has an image. sarcasmI think he's serious folks/sarcasm My cynical side definately agrees with this.
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
Lasse Bach wrote: Who is Dave Feustel? Please, search the archives. In this case this isn't just an rtfm-type response. You shouldn't have to have just a few sentences to sum up Mr. Feustel, as it wouldn't do him justice. Hours of reading enjoyment are ahead of you. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
thus Darrin Chandler spake: Lasse Bach wrote: Who is Dave Feustel? Please, search the archives. In this case this isn't just an rtfm-type response. You shouldn't have to have just a few sentences to sum up Mr. Feustel, as it wouldn't do him justice. Hours of reading enjoyment are ahead of you. besides this all: http://rm-my-mac.wideopenbsd.org.nyud.net:8090/ the domain contains 'wideopenbsd' and the rants are the same... timo
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
On 3/6/06, Axton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: !-- Here's the WideOpenBSD.ORG easter egg $ dig quote.wideopenbsd.org txt -- Yep, and : $ dig +short www.wideopenbsd.org 129.128.5.191 $ dig +short www.openbsd.org 129.128.5.191 :-)
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ nslookup www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 129.128.5.191 Name: openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca Address: 129.128.5.191 www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 *** insert conspiracy theory here *** Bryan Irvine wrote: For a laugh go here. http://wideopenbsd.org/ I dunno what his deal is, all I can say is that I've run OBSD since 2.5, and not one of them has been rooted. Compare that with various Linuxes I've run that have been rooted/defaced/turned into zombies/warez/movie servers, and I think what we've got is a genuine FUD site. Funny read though. --Bryan
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
I notice that their links section is 2 years old, which goes with the mentality behind the rest of it. They make statements and accusations against OpenBSD, but back it up with Nothing. Poor quality, poor content, poor souls... As for their 1337-ness about running on xBox, well, enough said. I am skript kiddie!!! Bow before me! w()()t! Thanks for that, a spark of entertainment for a few minutes. Regards, Craig Bryan Irvine wrote: For a laugh go here. http://wideopenbsd.org/ I dunno what his deal is, all I can say is that I've run OBSD since 2.5, and not one of them has been rooted. Compare that with various Linuxes I've run that have been rooted/defaced/turned into zombies/warez/movie servers, and I think what we've got is a genuine FUD site. Funny read though. --Bryan
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 21:09:35 +0100, RedShift proclaimed... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ nslookup www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 129.128.5.191 Name: openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca Address: 129.128.5.191 www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 *** insert conspiracy theory here *** That's great, now let's insert some clue into the discussion, shall we? $ host www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org has address 129.128.5.191 $ host wideopenbsd.org wideopenbsd.org has address 194.145.249.6 wideopenbsd.org mail is handled by 0 turunen.wideopenbsd.org.
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 09:09:35PM +0100, RedShift wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ nslookup www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 129.128.5.191 Name: openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca Address: 129.128.5.191 www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 *** insert conspiracy theory here *** Right... If I control a domain, I can point it wherever I want. This is clearly a part of their smear campaign against OpenBSD: $ host www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 $ host www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 $ host wideopenbsd.org wideopenbsd.org A 194.145.249.6 www.wideopenbsd.org points to the machine that truly runs openbsd.org, whereas wideopenbsd.org points to a machine in Sweden. Conspiracy? No. You've been had. -jon
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
Please, This troll is several years old, let it go already. -d On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Jon Hart wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 09:09:35PM +0100, RedShift wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ nslookup www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 129.128.5.191 Name: openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca Address: 129.128.5.191 www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 *** insert conspiracy theory here *** Right... If I control a domain, I can point it wherever I want. This is clearly a part of their smear campaign against OpenBSD: $ host www.openbsd.org www.openbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 $ host www.wideopenbsd.org www.wideopenbsd.org A 129.128.5.191 $ host wideopenbsd.org wideopenbsd.org A 194.145.249.6 www.wideopenbsd.org points to the machine that truly runs openbsd.org, whereas wideopenbsd.org points to a machine in Sweden. Conspiracy? No. You've been had. -jon
Re: OpenBSD has bad security
Damien Miller wrote: Please, This troll is several years old, let it go already. Not only that, the number of times you guys repeated the links will raise Google's interest (and that site's profile) the next time it digs through a mail archive. I'm sure the author of that site will thank you guys. Nick.
