Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-24, Stuart Henderson  wrote:
> Note that this method is likely to have problems going from 5.1 to 5.2
> on i386 due to ld.so changes, I would strongly recommend people have
> console access and remote reboot for this particular upgrade. (just i386;
> amd64 is not affected by that particular change).

A workaround for this is to comment-out pkg_scripts in rc.conf.local
and any code in rc.shutdown invoking dynamically-linked programs before
starting the upgrade, however it's safer to do a bsd.rd upgrade from
the console (or yaifo).



Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-10-22,   
wrote:
> I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I did
> not have Java built
> But it failed to reboot

Note that this method is likely to have problems going from 5.1 to 5.2
on i386 due to ld.so changes, I would strongly recommend people have
console access and remote reboot for this particular upgrade. (just i386;
amd64 is not affected by that particular change). The problem I'm
thinking of is not the one you are seeing though.


> From an IP KVM on someone elses computer with Java.
> Boots into ddb right after boot>
> (with message below)
>
> However, after I type boot -s to get into single user mode, I get ddb
> with a message similar to:
>
> kernal protection fault trap
> Stopped at calibrate_cyclecounter, etc

The rest of the information in that message might be useful.
And of course other standard information:

- How old was the working version?
- What are you updating to now?
- Which arch?

> If I type boot> boot bsd.rd,
> the server immediately shuts down and reboots
> I am building Java right now.
>
> Does this sound like a hardware failure or bad upgrade??

Can't say from the information given. Did you save an old kernel/bsd.rd?
Does that fail too?


> I am going to try upgrade with IP KVM after Java finishes building
> Java built but I cannot get firefox35 to work.
> I am on latest snapshot for i386
> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016
> (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]"  nsresult:
> "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame ::
> chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line
> 312"  data: no]

Probably better to report the two problems separately, the problem with
building/using java isn't of much use to people who might look at the
kernel crash, and vice-versa.



Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-22 Thread chris
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> From: Jan Stary 
> Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 4:54 pm
> To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> 
> 
> On Oct 22 14:10:52, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >  Original Message ----
> > > Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> > > From: Jan Stary 
> > > Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 3:20 pm
> > > To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Oct 22 09:31:24, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >  Original Message 
> > > > > Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> > > > > From: Jan Stary 
> > > > > Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 11:10 am
> > > > > To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Oct 22 08:02:04, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > > > > > I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I 
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > not have Java built
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you properly aligned the quanizicants before?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ha Ha,
> > > > 
> > > > I couldn't find anything on Google except diff's for this. Unhelpful.
> > > 
> > > diffs for what?
> > > 
> > > Srsly, what are you trying to do? What is "the ssh method"?
> > > Why are you upgrading in the first place?  To have java installed?
> > > You don't need to upgrade for that.
> > > 
> > > > The server has been running since early 2007, so it seems reasonable
> > > >  that a reboot, including several hard reboots might bring up a hardware
> > > >  failure.
> > > 
> > > Why?
> > > 
> > > > These are unmanaged servers, so unless I decide that the hardware is
> > > > broken, I have to solve the problem myself. Since I can't get F'ing
> > > > firefox35 to work, I'm a little pissed!
> > > 
> > > So, you are running firefox35 on "unmanaged servers"?
> > > 
> > > Seriously, you message doesn't give a hint
> > > what you are trying to do in the first place and why.
> > > 
> > > What are you doing?
> > > Why are you doing it?
> > > What problems are you having with that?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I guess that is why no one has replied.
> > 
> > I have a remote server for my websites and PostgreSQL databases for my
> > business.
> > I used the http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html#upgrade:
> > Upgrading without install kernel (modified to -current files)
> > This is NOT the recommended process. Use the install kernel method if at
> > all possible!
> > 
> > I have successfully used this method (for -current, never release)
> > several times
> > 
> > I hadn't built Java addon for firefox35 recently because I always run
> > -current or close to it.
> 
> This where you are losing me.
> You said it was a reopte server running webistes and PostgreSQL.
> What does firefox35 and a java addon have to do with that?
> 
> 
> > I built Java,
> 
> On a PostgreSQL server? Why?
> 
> > but I cannot get any (including a slightly older version)
> > firefox35 to work.
> 
> On a PostgreSQL server?
> 
> > I cannot achieve anything without IP access with Java.
> 
> What does that sentence even mean?
> What exactly are you trying to do and what exactly happens?
> 
> 
> > If this is a hardware failure,
> 
> What is? A nonworking java plugin for firefox?
> Why would that be a hw failure? How do you even
> run firefox _on_your_remote_server_ ?


I am in Austin Texas, with my cute little crappy laptop in a truck stop
with lousy Wifi.
I have had a remote server in Lansing Michigan since 2007.
They offer a remote IP based Keyboard, video and mouse attachment that
they connect to my server.
I must have a web browser with Java in order to use it, from this or any
other location in the world.
I do not own the server, I rent it.



Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-22 Thread chris
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> From: Jan Stary 
> Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 3:20 pm
> To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> 
> 
> On Oct 22 09:31:24, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >  Original Message ----
> > > Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> > > From: Jan Stary 
> > > Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 11:10 am
> > > To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Oct 22 08:02:04, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > > > I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I did
> > > > not have Java built
> > > 
> > > Have you properly aligned the quanizicants before?
> > > 
> > 
> > Ha Ha,
> > 
> > I couldn't find anything on Google except diff's for this. Unhelpful.
> 
> diffs for what?
> 
> Srsly, what are you trying to do? What is "the ssh method"?
> Why are you upgrading in the first place?  To have java installed?
> You don't need to upgrade for that.
> 
> > The server has been running since early 2007, so it seems reasonable
> >  that a reboot, including several hard reboots might bring up a hardware
> >  failure.
> 
> Why?
> 
> > These are unmanaged servers, so unless I decide that the hardware is
> > broken, I have to solve the problem myself. Since I can't get F'ing
> > firefox35 to work, I'm a little pissed!
> 
> So, you are running firefox35 on "unmanaged servers"?
> 
> Seriously, you message doesn't give a hint
> what you are trying to do in the first place and why.
> 
> What are you doing?
> Why are you doing it?
> What problems are you having with that?



I guess that is why no one has replied.

I have a remote server for my websites and PostgreSQL databases for my
business.
I used the http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html#upgrade:
Upgrading without install kernel (modified to -current files)
This is NOT the recommended process. Use the install kernel method if at
all possible!

I have successfully used this method (for -current, never release)
several times

I hadn't built Java addon for firefox35 recently because I always run
-current or close to it.

I built Java, but I cannot get any (including a slightly older version)
firefox35 to work.

I cannot achieve anything without IP access with Java.

If this is a hardware failure, I will ask for a replacement of whatever
it is that is broken.
If this is my fault, I can re-install or re-upgrade remotely, but I do
not have access to the interface I need until Wed.

Chris Bennett



Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-22 Thread chris
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> From: 
> Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 10:02 am
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> 
> 
> I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I did
> not have Java built
> But it failed to reboot
> From an IP KVM on someone elses computer with Java.
> Boots into ddb right after boot>
> (with message below)
> 
> However, after I type boot -s to get into single user mode, I get ddb
> with a message similar to:
> 
> kernal protection fault trap
> Stopped at calibrate_cyclecounter, etc
> 
> If I type boot> boot bsd.rd,
> the server immediately shuts down and reboots
> I am building Java right now.
> 
> Does this sound like a hardware failure or bad upgrade??
> I am going to try upgrade with IP KVM after Java finishes building
> Java built but I cannot get firefox35 to work.
> I am on latest snapshot for i386
> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016
> (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]"  nsresult:
> "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame ::
> chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line
> 312"  data: no]
> 
> Chris Bennett

I couldn't find anything on Google except diff's for this. Unhelpful.

The server has been running since early 2007, so it seems reasonable
 that a reboot, including several hard reboots might bring up a hardware
 failure.

These are unmanaged servers, so unless I decide that the hardware is
broken, I
have to solve the problem myself.
Since I can't get F'ing firefox35 to work, I'm a little pissed!
Chris Bennett



Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?

2012-10-22 Thread chris
I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I did
not have Java built
But it failed to reboot
>From an IP KVM on someone elses computer with Java.
Boots into ddb right after boot>
(with message below)

However, after I type boot -s to get into single user mode, I get ddb
with a message similar to:

kernal protection fault trap
Stopped at calibrate_cyclecounter, etc

If I type boot> boot bsd.rd,
the server immediately shuts down and reboots
I am building Java right now.

Does this sound like a hardware failure or bad upgrade??
I am going to try upgrade with IP KVM after Java finishes building
Java built but I cannot get firefox35 to work.
I am on latest snapshot for i386
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016
(NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]"  nsresult:
"0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame ::
chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line
312"  data: no]

Chris Bennett