Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread Dominik Meister
Hi Daniel

Daniel Melameth [Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 01:26:28PM -0600]:
 would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
 your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
 reported for x-sector PIO and related.

It might be a bit late, but ...

$ dmesg | grep wd
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF 4GB
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 3823MB, 7831152 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
$

This is on 4.5. I use that card in my Alix-based firewall. So far I
didn't have any problems with it.

I hope that helps,
Dominik
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Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread Jan Stary
  would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
  your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
  reported for x-sector PIO and related.
 
 It might be a bit late, but ...
 
 $ dmesg | grep wd
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF 4GB
 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 3823MB, 7831152 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
 $
 
 This is on 4.5. I use that card in my Alix-based firewall. So far I
 didn't have any problems with it.

Some time ago, it was suggested that the 1-sector PIO
is what's occasionaly slow about some of these cards
(e.g. when untarring a big tgz during an install).

Sadly, I have never seen any multi-sector PIO card.
And obviuosly, I will be upgrading soon (ALICes, actually).
Can people recommend some quality multi-sector PIO CF cards?

Thanks

Jan



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread Maurice Janssen

Jan Stary wrote:

would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
reported for x-sector PIO and related.

It might be a bit late, but ...

$ dmesg | grep wd
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF 4GB
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 3823MB, 7831152 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
$

This is on 4.5. I use that card in my Alix-based firewall. So far I
didn't have any problems with it.


Some time ago, it was suggested that the 1-sector PIO
is what's occasionaly slow about some of these cards
(e.g. when untarring a big tgz during an install).

Sadly, I have never seen any multi-sector PIO card.
And obviuosly, I will be upgrading soon (ALICes, actually).
Can people recommend some quality multi-sector PIO CF cards?


wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: SanDisk SDCFX-1024
wd0: 4-sector PIO, LBA, 977MB, 2001888 sectors

This is a SanDisk CF card I got some years ago.  I think it's an 
Ultra-II card, but I'm not 100% sure.  It works fine in my Soekris box.


Maurice



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread Emilio Perea
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 05:35:35PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
 Sadly, I have never seen any multi-sector PIO card.
 And obviuosly, I will be upgrading soon (ALICes, actually).
 Can people recommend some quality multi-sector PIO CF cards?

I've had excellent results with SanDisk cards.  This one is on a
Soekris 5500:

 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SanDisk SDCFX4-8192
 wd0: 4-sector PIO, LBA, 7815MB, 16007040 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

This one is on an early Soekris 4801 which does not support DMA modes in
the CF socket, so had to disable that in kernel:

 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SanDisk SDCFX-2048
 wd0: 4-sector PIO, LBA, 1953MB, 4001760 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4
 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

In this case the fancy new card did not perform any better than the
cheap old one, but you should not run into that problem with recent
hardware.



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread David Holligan
 Some time ago, it was suggested that the 1-sector PIO
 is what's occasionaly slow about some of these cards
 (e.g. when untarring a big tgz during an install).

 Sadly, I have never seen any multi-sector PIO card.
 And obviuosly, I will be upgrading soon (ALICes, actually).
 Can people recommend some quality multi-sector PIO CF cards?


Here is the partial DMESG information from one I have in a Nokia IP130:

wdc0 at isa0 port 0x1f0/8 irq 14
wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: LEXAR ATA FLASH
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 489MB, 1001952 sectors
wd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings


I believe this particular model is 40x.



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread nothingness
Daniel Melameth wrote:
 With the positive response of OpenBSD on this hardware, I'm considering
 purchasing these in preparation for a proof of concept.  As such, if anyone
 has purchased the 4GB COMPACTFLASH CARDS THAT PC ENGINES SELLS
 (http://www.pcengines.ch/cf4dp.htm or http://www.pcengines.ch/cf4slc.htm),
 would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
 your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
 reported for x-sector PIO and related.

 While I know I can purchase CompactFlash cards from anywhere, I try to
 support those companies that support OpenBSD (that and it's easier just to
 get everything from one vendor).

 Thanks.

   
Here's a partial dmesg from my ALIX using PC Engines' 4Gb CompactFlash card:

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF 4GB
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 3823MB, 7831152 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2

Hope that helps, they run just fine so far.

Noth



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-10-09, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:
  would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
  your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
  reported for x-sector PIO and related.
 
 It might be a bit late, but ...
 
 $ dmesg | grep wd
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF 4GB
 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 3823MB, 7831152 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
 $
 
 This is on 4.5. I use that card in my Alix-based firewall. So far I
 didn't have any problems with it.

 Some time ago, it was suggested that the 1-sector PIO
 is what's occasionaly slow about some of these cards
 (e.g. when untarring a big tgz during an install).

it helps, but so do other things.

 Sadly, I have never seen any multi-sector PIO card.
 And obviuosly, I will be upgrading soon (ALICes, actually).
 Can people recommend some quality multi-sector PIO CF cards?

sandisk (all modern cards), and I've been using the innodisk
CF/DOM recently which have been fine,

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: InnoDisk Corp. - iCF4000 1GB
wd0: 2-sector PIO, LBA, 999MB, 2047248 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: InnoDisk Corp. - EDC4000 1GB
wd0: 2-sector PIO, LBA, 999MB, 2047248 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 0



Re: ALIX and PC Engines CompactFlash

2009-10-01 Thread sonjaya
i using generic cf ( vgen) for obsd 4.5 and mother board via epia ,
main problem is only DMA and can handle it with setup manualy adn
problem missing.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Daniel Melameth dan...@melameth.com wrote:
 With the positive response of OpenBSD on this hardware, I'm considering
 purchasing these in preparation for a proof of concept.  As such, if anyone
 has purchased the 4GB COMPACTFLASH CARDS THAT PC ENGINES SELLS
 (http://www.pcengines.ch/cf4dp.htm or http://www.pcengines.ch/cf4slc.htm),
 would you please share the RELEVANT PORTION OF YOUR DMESG for the card (and
 your opinions if you'd like)?  I'm particularly interested in what's
 reported for x-sector PIO and related.

 While I know I can purchase CompactFlash cards from anywhere, I try to
 support those companies that support OpenBSD (that and it's easier just to
 get everything from one vendor).

 Thanks.





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sonjaya