Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
As far as I know you can get them on amazon now. I called the office in china they said they are selling to schools and local government and only a few are for export to open source fans Sent from my iPod On Jan 1, 2012, at 18:23, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 06:01:31PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >>> These words you keep on using... I don't think they mean what you think >>> they mean. >> >> That's ok because I'm the one who "keeps on using" them, not you. But I >> meant what I wrote just so you know. >> >>> Noone is holding you at gunpoint until you are buying a Lemote device. >> >> No but the factory is making sure only limited dealers can sell them. I >> smell a rat. >> >>> If you consider them too expensive for what you think they are worth, >>> it's fine. But don't tell people their prices are ``holding people in >>> hostage''. Thanks. >> >> Oh, so you are one of the people holding people hostage by limiting >> distribution and you're just not admitting it? >> >> Or you're just an argumentative sonofabitch and for some reason you believe >> it's your responsibility to police the net for certain types of posts and >> align yourself with those who gouge people on slave labor technology? After >> all it costs them about 5 bucks to actually make it. Pardon me I am not >> rushing to pay 250 dollars. That seems excessive as I have said. >> >> Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own >> fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a >> restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the >> rest of us don't agree. >> >> Now go away.. > > Ehum, if Miod would have done that, there would likely be no OpenBSD > running on these Loongsons. So given the choice, I would rather have > anonymous cowards that did not contribute anything to leave. > >-Otto
Re: Where do I buy Lemote Loongson/Godson MIPS hardware? (was Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?)
they seem to be well made but debian linux is unstable. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > It anyone wants to go right to Lemote and start selling on Amazon or > direct in your area, they were priced at $280/ea in 10 qty about 2 years > ago. > So they're probably much cheaper now. And it sounds like they ship in > single qty now, too. > > Johan Beisser [j...@caustic.org] wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Dave U. Random > > wrote: > > > Are the Longson/Godson MIPS boxes available over the counter yet? If so > > > where is the best place to order one? Thanks. > > > > A brief search of the archives gives a few resources. Spelling the > > architecture right helps, but searching for "lemote" does wonders. > > > > Start reading here: > > http://openbsd.org/loongson.html > > > > Relevant threads on misc@: > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=lemote&q=b > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=loongson&q=b > > > > Acquiring hardware: > > > > International: > > http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=loongson&catId=0 > > http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lemote&catId=0 > > > > In China (drop shipment to a forwarder may be necessary): > > http://loogson.taobao.com/ > > > > In Europe: > > http://www.tekmote.nl > > > > In the US, Amazon has a direct sales from Freedom Included. Prime > eligible. > > > http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=computers&field-manufacturer=Lemote > > http://freedomincluded.com/ > > > > > > Compiled for the archives, YMMV.. > > > > Special thanks to Miod, Diana and others for their postings. > > -- > There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and > mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - E. Hemingway
Re: Where do I buy Lemote Loongson/Godson MIPS hardware? (was Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?)
It anyone wants to go right to Lemote and start selling on Amazon or direct in your area, they were priced at $280/ea in 10 qty about 2 years ago. So they're probably much cheaper now. And it sounds like they ship in single qty now, too. Johan Beisser [j...@caustic.org] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Dave U. Random > wrote: > > Are the Longson/Godson MIPS boxes available over the counter yet? If so > > where is the best place to order one? Thanks. > > A brief search of the archives gives a few resources. Spelling the > architecture right helps, but searching for "lemote" does wonders. > > Start reading here: > http://openbsd.org/loongson.html > > Relevant threads on misc@: > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=lemote&q=b > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=loongson&q=b > > Acquiring hardware: > > International: > http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=loongson&catId=0 > http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lemote&catId=0 > > In China (drop shipment to a forwarder may be necessary): > http://loogson.taobao.com/ > > In Europe: > http://www.tekmote.nl > > In the US, Amazon has a direct sales from Freedom Included. Prime eligible. > http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=computers&field-manufacturer=Lemote > http://freedomincluded.com/ > > > Compiled for the archives, YMMV.. > > Special thanks to Miod, Diana and others for their postings. -- There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - E. Hemingway
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> > If you don't have signal to add to the thread at least don't add to the > > noise. > > Could you please follow your own advise and simply STFU? > > -- > Rafal Bisingier As long as you shitheads keep your gang bang going the STFU is going to have to come from you.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> Are we a tourette treatment center? Why don't you add it to your .sig shithead ;-) > > > > > -- > http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk > "This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity." > -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. > "Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or > internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks > factory where smoking on the job is permitted." -- Gene Spafford > learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> Apple's iPhone is "slave-labor hardware" too: how much does it cost? Too right. How many people have thrown themselves from Foxconn's towers? > ...As well as all the other electronic gadgets on the market, btw... Not all but many. It is worthwhile looking into how what we buy affects people.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> I know a bunch of people with SGI O2's that might let them go for > that. How many do you want? Not familiar with those. I'll have a look thanks.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Instead you motherfuckers are lecturing me on why I should pay 200 or > 250 bucks for 5 dollars worth of slave-labor hardware as if you're all > shareholders. Apple's iPhone is "slave-labor hardware" too: how much does it cost? ...As well as all the other electronic gadgets on the market, btw... ciao David
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
Hi, On, 03 Jan 2012 o 08:59 CET Anonymous wrote: > If you don't have signal to add to the thread at least don't add to the noise. Could you please follow your own advise and simply STFU? -- Rafal Bisingier
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:10:19 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > > > Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc > > for a license but maybe they do. > > FYI, they has a MIPS license. Thank you. I stand corrected.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
Are we a tourette treatment center? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk "This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity." -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. "Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted." -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
Henning Brauer wrote: > > I feel the price is too high > > then don't buy a lemote, case closed. The question was about where to get a good price on one. Scroll up asshole. > the person you insulted. I insulted nobody except people who attacked me for daring to express the opinion that the price of the mini is "too FUCKING HIGH!!!" > keep going, 2 developers insulted. that is going to give you a lot of > karma points here. Shaking and quaking ;-) > you have no idea what I do or don't. But you do about me? I got a bulletin for you, your crystal ball needs rebooting > aha. again you know sth about me I haven't said. genius! Lot of that going around > it is arguable wether we argue or are just making fun of the OP (you, > aparently). keep jerking off if it makes you feel better > my only assumption was that you want to run OpenBSD. And that should > be a pretty safe assumption on misc@ _OPENBSD_ .org. Uh no. OpenBSD is one of the OS that runs on MIPS. I thought I could get some help on where to find a cheap MIPS box, specifically the Lemote. Oh well! Arrogant motherfucker! > we tell you to just not buy the device in question if you don't wanna > pay its price. that doesn't even require you to make your genius and > superiour morals public. But your bandwidth is justified in your own eyes I am sure > hey miod, we must convince the rest of us to leave openbsd, this guy > here said so, and he's obviously an omniscient genius. Don't try to twist my words. I said nothing bad about OpenBSD or miod. You're a shit stirring little fagot doing your best to draw everyone into your little sharkfest. If you don't have signal to add to the thread at least don't add to the noise.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:53:32 +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:10:19 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc for a license but maybe they do. FYI, they has a MIPS license. s/has/have/ -- Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:10:19 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc for a license but maybe they do. FYI, they has a MIPS license. -- Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa you are funny :-) I might be one of your personalities. On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, Fritz Wuehler wrote: There is no reason to converse with this dreeb. Yet another "person" who hides behind anonymity when they want to throw down a diatribe. Yeah but Diana is just your street name, right whore? What difference does a name make and who cares? For a whore you sure have lots of free time. Maybe you're not that good in bed.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, ropers wrote: > On 2 January 2012 18:10, Nomen Nescio wrote: >> I don't rely on anyone's work. > > Ladies and gentlemen: The great American delusion. Randian delusion. It's not purely American, and never has been.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On 2 January 2012 18:10, Nomen Nescio wrote: > I don't rely on anyone's work. Ladies and gentlemen: The great American delusion.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> There is no reason to converse with this dreeb. > Yet another "person" who hides behind anonymity when > they want to throw down a diatribe. Yeah but Diana is just your street name, right whore? What difference does a name make and who cares? For a whore you sure have lots of free time. Maybe you're not that good in bed.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > I don't believe in paying top dollar to some shop in Europe just so they can > make a few thousand percent markup on a unit when the guys who actually make > them get paid enough for a half of bag of rice per month. I don't give a > shit what connections you have or why you think I should enrich your buddies > but it ain't going to happen. It's not a boutique item or a collectable, > it's just a low-end MIPS box. When the mini hits 50 bucks I'll buy a > bunch. Until then, "that's TOO FUCKING HIGH!!!" Got it, asshole? I know a bunch of people with SGI O2's that might let them go for that. How many do you want? -B
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
* Nomen Nescio [2012-01-02 18:13]: > > 1) you have no idea what it costs them to make one > And you do, right? nope. but I don't make claims about it. you do. > > 2) pure production cost isn't the entire picture > Why not? They're using their own chip design. yeah, and making that is free, of course. > I doubt they pay MIPS.inc for a license aha. you "doubt". i dunno, but I don't make such claims. > > 3) they are free to ask for any price they want. you are free to not > >buy their stuff. > So why are you and your butt buddies arguing so hard? it is arguable wether we argue or are just making fun of the OP (you, aparently). > I feel the price is too high then don't buy a lemote, case closed. > > 4) watch your tongue. miod is actually the one who writes the code you > >want to run. miod being the target or someone else, the behaviour > >you've shown so far isn't in the range i call acceptable. > I have nothing against miod, I have no idea who/what that is. the person you insulted. > How do you know what I want to run? if you don't wanna run OpenBSD you're wrong here anyway. > I'm just looking for cheap MIPS boxes. And I don't > give a shit what you call acceptable. Fuck yourself and have a good time. keep going, 2 developers insulted. that is going to give you a lot of karma points here. > > > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > > > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > > > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the > > > rest of us don't agree. > > oh, you're speaking for "most of us". how could I miss that! > No, asshole aha. how would i have known without you. > what you missed is most people what a wonderful oxymoron. in the very same sentence, you admit that you don't speak for "most of us", then speaking for "most people". clearly brilliant! you speak for "most people", because you say so. obvious. > who buy things don't appreciate restricted distribution networks and > price controls. and then simply buy something else instead of going to a public mailing list, insult the people running the associated project and ... oh well, I don't wanna go down to your level. > If you do good for you. you have no idea what I do or don't. > Amazing how you're against Windows marketing I am? amazing how well you think you know me. > for the same tactics I'm > against Lemote's marketing but somehow for me it's wrong but for you it's > ok. aha. again you know sth about me I haven't said. genius! > > asking the people whom's work you rely on to go away is the behaviour > > of a true genius. > You're making a lot of assumptions and so far none of them are correct. my only assumption was that you want to run OpenBSD. And that should be a pretty safe assumption on misc@ _OPENBSD_ .org. > I don't rely on anyone's work rright! sorry that i missed you when you delivered the electrons forming your email into my computer, I was out for coffee. > I asked a simple question and certain motherfuckers like yourself > feel the need to add noise to the thread instead of letting it die. .. > Instead you motherfuckers are lecturing me on why I should pay 200 or > 250 bucks for 5 dollars worth of slave-labor hardware as if you're all > shareholders. no, we don't. we tell you to just not buy the device in question if you don't wanna pay its price. that doesn't even require you to make your genius and superiour morals public. > Then you, asshole ah, right. thanks for reminding me. > I don't believe in paying top dollar to some shop in Europe then just don't! > or why you think I should enrich your buddies but it ain't going to happen. ah, right. my buddies at lemote and that .nl shop. care to introduce them to me? > Got it, asshole? a lemote? nope, I don't have one. > I'll say to you what I said to the previous motherfucker who felt it > necessary to impress me with his vast lack of knowledge on actually > answering the question: go fuck yourself. Bye asshole! hey miod, we must convince the rest of us to leave openbsd, this guy here said so, and he's obviously an omniscient genius. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
You need some fucking valium. On Jan 2, 2012 12:17 PM, "Nomen Nescio" wrote: > > 1) you have no idea what it costs them to make one > > And you do, right? > > > 2) pure production cost isn't the entire picture > > Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc for > a license but maybe they do. So what? A license costs 200 dollars per unit? > I don't think so. > > > 3) they are free to ask for any price they want. you are free to not > >buy their stuff. > > So why are you and your butt buddies arguing so hard? I feel the price is > too high, but that is only based on reality. If you buy your cred by having > new or odd stuff then I understand why you feel like paying whatever they > gouge you for. > > > 4) watch your tongue. miod is actually the one who writes the code you > >want to run. miod being the target or someone else, the behaviour > >you've shown so far isn't in the range i call acceptable. > > I have nothing against miod, I have no idea who/what that is. How do you > know what I want to run? I'm just looking for cheap MIPS boxes. And I don't > give a shit what you call acceptable. Fuck yourself and have a good time. > > > > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > > > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > > > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of > the > > > rest of us don't agree. > > > > oh, you're speaking for "most of us". how could I miss that! > > No, asshole, what you missed is most people who buy things don't appreciate > restricted distribution networks and price controls. If you do good for > you. Amazing how you're against Windows marketing for the same tactics I'm > against Lemote's marketing but somehow for me it's wrong but for you it's > ok. Monopoly is monopoly and price fixing is price fixing whether you you > have buddies on the inside or not. > > > asking the people whom's work you rely on to go away is the behaviour > > of a true genius. > > You're making a lot of assumptions and so far none of them are correct. I > don't rely on anyone's work. I asked a simple question and certain > motherfuckers like yourself feel the need to add noise to the thread > instead > of letting it die. Somebody could have said as far as I know the price > hasn't come down at all since 2008 and there is no reduction in sight. > Instead you motherfuckers are lecturing me on why I should pay 200 or > 250 bucks for 5 dollars worth of slave-labor hardware as if you're all > shareholders. That's funny. Then you, asshole, accuse me of badmouthing > miod > whoever/whatever that is, and if he isn't the one making 245 bucks per > unit, > I have nothing against him/it and nothing I've ever said would lead anyone > to believe otherwise. > > I don't believe in paying top dollar to some shop in Europe just so they > can > make a few thousand percent markup on a unit when the guys who actually > make > them get paid enough for a half of bag of rice per month. I don't give a > shit what connections you have or why you think I should enrich your > buddies > but it ain't going to happen. It's not a boutique item or a collectable, > it's just a low-end MIPS box. When the mini hits 50 bucks I'll buy a > bunch. Until then, "that's TOO FUCKING HIGH!!!" Got it, asshole? > > I'll say to you what I said to the previous motherfucker who felt it > necessary to impress me with his vast lack of knowledge on actually > answering the question: go fuck yourself. Bye asshole!
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> 1) you have no idea what it costs them to make one And you do, right? > 2) pure production cost isn't the entire picture Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc for a license but maybe they do. So what? A license costs 200 dollars per unit? I don't think so. > 3) they are free to ask for any price they want. you are free to not >buy their stuff. So why are you and your butt buddies arguing so hard? I feel the price is too high, but that is only based on reality. If you buy your cred by having new or odd stuff then I understand why you feel like paying whatever they gouge you for. > 4) watch your tongue. miod is actually the one who writes the code you >want to run. miod being the target or someone else, the behaviour >you've shown so far isn't in the range i call acceptable. I have nothing against miod, I have no idea who/what that is. How do you know what I want to run? I'm just looking for cheap MIPS boxes. And I don't give a shit what you call acceptable. Fuck yourself and have a good time. > > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the > > rest of us don't agree. > > oh, you're speaking for "most of us". how could I miss that! No, asshole, what you missed is most people who buy things don't appreciate restricted distribution networks and price controls. If you do good for you. Amazing how you're against Windows marketing for the same tactics I'm against Lemote's marketing but somehow for me it's wrong but for you it's ok. Monopoly is monopoly and price fixing is price fixing whether you you have buddies on the inside or not. > asking the people whom's work you rely on to go away is the behaviour > of a true genius. You're making a lot of assumptions and so far none of them are correct. I don't rely on anyone's work. I asked a simple question and certain motherfuckers like yourself feel the need to add noise to the thread instead of letting it die. Somebody could have said as far as I know the price hasn't come down at all since 2008 and there is no reduction in sight. Instead you motherfuckers are lecturing me on why I should pay 200 or 250 bucks for 5 dollars worth of slave-labor hardware as if you're all shareholders. That's funny. Then you, asshole, accuse me of badmouthing miod whoever/whatever that is, and if he isn't the one making 245 bucks per unit, I have nothing against him/it and nothing I've ever said would lead anyone to believe otherwise. I don't believe in paying top dollar to some shop in Europe just so they can make a few thousand percent markup on a unit when the guys who actually make them get paid enough for a half of bag of rice per month. I don't give a shit what connections you have or why you think I should enrich your buddies but it ain't going to happen. It's not a boutique item or a collectable, it's just a low-end MIPS box. When the mini hits 50 bucks I'll buy a bunch. Until then, "that's TOO FUCKING HIGH!!!" Got it, asshole? I'll say to you what I said to the previous motherfucker who felt it necessary to impress me with his vast lack of knowledge on actually answering the question: go fuck yourself. Bye asshole!
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 13:39:29 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert wrote: > There is no reason to converse with this dreeb. > Yet another "person" who hides behind anonymity when > they want to throw down a diatribe. Maybe he has some personal experience with cheap labour that can explain this but I really wonder if these people are often biting their tongues when in public. Kc
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
* Nomen Nescio [2012-01-01 18:10]: > Or you're just an argumentative sonofabitch and for some reason you believe > it's your responsibility to police the net for certain types of posts and > align yourself with those who gouge people on slave labor technology? After > all it costs them about 5 bucks to actually make it. Pardon me I am not > rushing to pay 250 dollars. That seems excessive as I have said. 1) you have no idea what it costs them to make one 2) pure production cost isn't the entire picture 3) they are free to ask for any price they want. you are free to not buy their stuff. 4) watch your tongue. miod is actually the one who writes the code you want to run. miod being the target or someone else, the behaviour you've shown so far isn't in the range i call acceptable. > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the > rest of us don't agree. oh, you're speaking for "most of us". how could I miss that! > Now go away.. asking the people whom's work you rely on to go away is the behaviour of a true genius. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
Otto, There is no reason to converse with this dreeb. Yet another "person" who hides behind anonymity when they want to throw down a diatribe. g.day diana Past hissy-fits are not a predictor of future hissy-fits. Nick Holland(06 Dec 2005)
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 06:01:31PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > These words you keep on using... I don't think they mean what you think > > they mean. > > That's ok because I'm the one who "keeps on using" them, not you. But I > meant what I wrote just so you know. > > > Noone is holding you at gunpoint until you are buying a Lemote device. > > No but the factory is making sure only limited dealers can sell them. I > smell a rat. > > > If you consider them too expensive for what you think they are worth, > > it's fine. But don't tell people their prices are ``holding people in > > hostage''. Thanks. > > Oh, so you are one of the people holding people hostage by limiting > distribution and you're just not admitting it? > > Or you're just an argumentative sonofabitch and for some reason you believe > it's your responsibility to police the net for certain types of posts and > align yourself with those who gouge people on slave labor technology? After > all it costs them about 5 bucks to actually make it. Pardon me I am not > rushing to pay 250 dollars. That seems excessive as I have said. > > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the > rest of us don't agree. > > Now go away.. Ehum, if Miod would have done that, there would likely be no OpenBSD running on these Loongsons. So given the choice, I would rather have anonymous cowards that did not contribute anything to leave. -Otto
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
What is the point of this thread? Huh? MIPS licenses the technology to a Chinese fabricator; They make the chips and they are used in a very open source netbook which Lemote happens to sell.; Stallman himself uses one. >From his perspective, from an article I read, he stated he uses one because the BIOS is open source. A company in China has come out with a MIPS based Android tablet for $100. Perhaps you should consider that instead? On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > These words you keep on using... I don't think they mean what you think > > they mean. > > That's ok because I'm the one who "keeps on using" them, not you. But I > meant what I wrote just so you know. > > > Noone is holding you at gunpoint until you are buying a Lemote device. > > No but the factory is making sure only limited dealers can sell them. I > smell a rat. > > > If you consider them too expensive for what you think they are worth, > > it's fine. But don't tell people their prices are ``holding people in > > hostage''. Thanks. > > Oh, so you are one of the people holding people hostage by limiting > distribution and you're just not admitting it? > > Or you're just an argumentative sonofabitch and for some reason you believe > it's your responsibility to police the net for certain types of posts and > align yourself with those who gouge people on slave labor technology? After > all it costs them about 5 bucks to actually make it. Pardon me I am not > rushing to pay 250 dollars. That seems excessive as I have said. > > Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own > fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a > restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the > rest of us don't agree. > > Now go away..
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> These words you keep on using... I don't think they mean what you think > they mean. That's ok because I'm the one who "keeps on using" them, not you. But I meant what I wrote just so you know. > Noone is holding you at gunpoint until you are buying a Lemote device. No but the factory is making sure only limited dealers can sell them. I smell a rat. > If you consider them too expensive for what you think they are worth, > it's fine. But don't tell people their prices are ``holding people in > hostage''. Thanks. Oh, so you are one of the people holding people hostage by limiting distribution and you're just not admitting it? Or you're just an argumentative sonofabitch and for some reason you believe it's your responsibility to police the net for certain types of posts and align yourself with those who gouge people on slave labor technology? After all it costs them about 5 bucks to actually make it. Pardon me I am not rushing to pay 250 dollars. That seems excessive as I have said. Since you have advice for me, let me share some for you. Mind your own fucking business. I really don't give a shit that you don't think a restricted distribution network and price controls are fine. Most of the rest of us don't agree. Now go away..
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> I would like a MIPS box but I am not going to be held hostage to buy one and ^^ > neither are most people. These words you keep on using... I don't think they mean what you think they mean. Noone is holding you at gunpoint until you are buying a Lemote device. If you consider them too expensive for what you think they are worth, it's fine. But don't tell people their prices are ``holding people in hostage''. Thanks.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> The deal with Lemote is you want free box with no restricted anything > its the way to go. For 250 us dollar its not a bad network but for 500 > for the 10.9 I can get a used I5 for that price easy. > Its just not the same to compair an intel aton or I3 to Lemote product. I think it is and I don't care what's free or not. I'm looking at what you get for your money and an Intel box for the same price (specially a used one like you said) is head and shoulders above the current Longsoon. I would like a MIPS box but I am not going to be held hostage to buy one and neither are most people.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
The deal with Lemote is you want free box with no restricted anything its the way to go. For 250 us dollar its not a bad network but for 500 for the 10.9 I can get a used I5 for that price easy. Its just not the same to compair an intel aton or I3 to Lemote product. One is totally free and the other is not On 12/31/2011 09:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: most netbooks with Intel Atom retail in the $250 to $400 range; what's your damage? Because the Longsoon stuff is not on the level of refinement of Intel, not by a long shot. Longsoon is supposed to be cheap. So far it's not.
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> most netbooks with Intel Atom retail in the $250 to $400 range; what's > your damage? Because the Longsoon stuff is not on the level of refinement of Intel, not by a long shot. Longsoon is supposed to be cheap. So far it's not.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
Richard Thornton wrote [2011-12-30 14:25+0100]: > what's your damage? The damage of Fritz WC
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
most netbooks with Intel Atom retail in the $250 to $400 range; what's your damage? On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) < mixmas...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote: > > i saw them on face book and amazon also 250 & 500 us dollars > > Like Kurt Russell said, "That's TOO FUCKING HIGH!!!" > > When they start selling them for a fair price let's say 50 bucks for the > black box and maybe 150 for a loaded laptop then it's time to buy. Until > then, tekmote isn't getting my business.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
> i saw them on face book and amazon also 250 & 500 us dollars Like Kurt Russell said, "That's TOO FUCKING HIGH!!!" When they start selling them for a fair price let's say 50 bucks for the black box and maybe 150 for a loaded laptop then it's time to buy. Until then, tekmote isn't getting my business.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
i saw them on face book and amazon also 250 & 500 us dollars On 12/28/2011 04:07 AM, Alan Cheng wrote:On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Dave U. Random < anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote: Are the Longson/Godson MIPS boxes available over the counter yet? If so where is the best place to order one? Thanks. checkout http://www.tekmote.nl/
Where do I buy Lemote Loongson/Godson MIPS hardware? (was Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?)
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Dave U. Random wrote: > Are the Longson/Godson MIPS boxes available over the counter yet? If so > where is the best place to order one? Thanks. A brief search of the archives gives a few resources. Spelling the architecture right helps, but searching for "lemote" does wonders. Start reading here: http://openbsd.org/loongson.html Relevant threads on misc@: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=lemote&q=b http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=loongson&q=b Acquiring hardware: International: http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=loongson&catId=0 http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=lemote&catId=0 In China (drop shipment to a forwarder may be necessary): http://loogson.taobao.com/ In Europe: http://www.tekmote.nl In the US, Amazon has a direct sales from Freedom Included. Prime eligible. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=computers&field-manufacturer=Lemote http://freedomincluded.com/ Compiled for the archives, YMMV.. Special thanks to Miod, Diana and others for their postings.
Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Dave U. Random < anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote: > Are the Longson/Godson MIPS boxes available over the counter yet? If so > where is the best place to order one? Thanks. > > checkout http://www.tekmote.nl/