Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-25 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:02:15 +
carlos albino garcia grijalba genesi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

 so ?

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This is a hatchet job by someone with an axe to grind.  Mostly confabulated
acronyms
by a guy who can't summon the introspection to read what he writes.  Exempli
Gratia:


This is the main reason why OpenBSD is unable to offer a secure environment in
the event an attacker is successful. Instead of implementing a form of
extended access controls and ensuring the system is secure even in the event
of a successful attack, they prefer to remove as many vulnerabilities as
possible. This approach is naove at best and arrogant at worst.


Nothing is secure ... in the event of a successful attack.


Dhu



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-25 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Duncan Patton a Campbell campb...@neotext.ca writes:

 This is a hatchet job by someone with an axe to grind.  

Or simple flamebait. If so, it worked.

Now pretending to take the article seriously for a few moments, I'd
put it this way: the writer has decided that there will be one
specific item that he equates with 'security'. Seeing that OpenBSD
does not have that specific item, he declares that OpenBSD is not a
secure system.  Pretty much end of story.

Either in the article itself or some of the followup (I forget and can
not be bothered to check), he apparently took a peek at an installed
OpenBSD system but either did not look to closely or was unable to
understand what he saw, assuming daemons have to run as root at all
times, for example.

Not a deep analysis by a competent person, and please do not waste any
more time on this thread.  Much better to read up on various material
the write obviously did not read, go to http://www.openbsd.org/papers/
and start somewhere.

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Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Marco Peereboom
retarded

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:02:15PM +, carlos albino garcia grijalba
wrote:
 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

 so ?

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Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread J Sisson
http://old.nabble.com/The-insecurity-of-OpenBSD-td27268082.html



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 19:02, Wed 24 Feb 10, carlos albino garcia grijalba wrote:
 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
 
 so ?

Search the archives, and move along.
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Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting carlos albino garcia grijalba genesi...@hotmail.com:

 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
 
 so ?
 
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Your twin has already been on this list, so the trolling is rather wasted:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126412951221902w=2



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:02:15 +
carlos albino garcia grijalba genesi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
 
 so ?
 

Gah, not again.  Search the archives (http://marc.info).



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Dunceor
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM, carlos albino garcia grijalba
genesi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

 so ?

Old, move along.
http://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg86163.html



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:02:15PM +, carlos albino garcia grijalba wrote:
 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
 
 so ?

http://marc.info/?t=12641295802r=1w=2

So.

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Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Bryan

On 2/24/2010 1:02 PM, carlos albino garcia grijalba wrote:

I foud this:
http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

so ?

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Will the mouth-breathers please start searching the mailing list?  This 
has already been trolled, killed, and thankfully, you've re-zombied it.  
*golf clap*


Also, get a better mail service, and e-mail handle... both blow...



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Henry Sieff
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM, carlos albino garcia grijalba
genesi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I foud this:
 http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

 so ?

translation
trolling trolling trolling::
http://trolling.trolling.troll/troll/troll/troll/trolling-trolls-of-trollovia/

troll?
/translation

hth

gfy



Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread carlos albino garcia grijalba
Folks i dont mean obsd is insecure i love obsd, ive been using it for 5 years
i just want the community to read the history
sorry.

 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:20:03 -0700
 From: dwchand...@stilyagin.com
 To: genesi...@hotmail.com
 CC: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:02:15PM +, carlos albino garcia grijalba
wrote:
  I foud this:
  http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
 
  so ?

 http://marc.info/?t=12641295802r=1w=2

 So.

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Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?

2010-02-24 Thread Brad Tilley
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:36 +, carlos albino garcia grijalba
genesi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Folks i dont mean obsd is insecure i love obsd, ive been using it for 5
 years
 i just want the community to read the history
 sorry.


OpenBSD doesn't have the rubber stamps. That's what confuses people.
However, it has been certified for use by circus clowns (under certain
conditions and restrictions):

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126596870506480w=2

 
  Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:20:03 -0700
  From: dwchand...@stilyagin.com
  To: genesi...@hotmail.com
  CC: misc@openbsd.org
  Subject: Re: OpenBSD insecure OS?
 
  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:02:15PM +, carlos albino garcia grijalba
 wrote:
   I foud this:
   http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/
  
   so ?
 
  http://marc.info/?t=12641295802r=1w=2
 
  So.
 
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