Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Thanos Tsouanas tha...@sians.org wrote:

  FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
  works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.
 
 Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card?
 
 Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 card
 (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH)

Where would I find this information?  It's not on the invoice and
there is no sticker.

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Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-23 Thread Thanos Tsouanas
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
 works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.

Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card?

The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the
Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 card
(model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU)
which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 card
(model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH)
which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230.
However, it is not..  So, either the whitelist is different depending on
the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you
bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card.

Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks!


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
 It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one.

 See:
 http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575

 Hmm, I am not sure to be honest.

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 Best Regards
 Edd Barrett

 http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk




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Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-23 Thread Thanos Tsouanas
Sorry for the quick re-post, apparently the whitelist checks
the FRU P/N, and this seems to be the full list:
http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/x230_x230i_fru_bom_20130410.pdf
So, when buying one for a thinkpad make sure its FRU is in that list.
I got a generic one and it is not working..
See also:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X230-1802-error-after-WLAN-card-upgrade/ta-p/867893

Hope that helps somebody..


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Thanos Tsouanas tha...@sians.org wrote:
 Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
 works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.

 Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card?

 The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the
 Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 card
 (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU)
 which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the
 Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 card
 (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH)
 which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230.
 However, it is not..  So, either the whitelist is different depending on
 the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you
 bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card.

 Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks!


 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
 It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one.

 See:
 http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575

 Hmm, I am not sure to be honest.

 --
 Best Regards
 Edd Barrett

 http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk




 --
 Thanos Tsouanas
 http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/



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http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 14:26, Thanos Tsouanas wrote:
 Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
 works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.
 
 Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card?
 
 The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the
 Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 card
 (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU)
 which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the
 Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 card
 (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH)
 which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230.
 However, it is not..  So, either the whitelist is different depending on
 the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you
 bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card.
 
 Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks!

I don't know what those IDs are, but I specifically bought a 6300 from
ebay that said it was for Lenovo laptops. It works.



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Larkin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:26:39PM +0200, Thanos Tsouanas wrote:
 Christian Weisgerber wrote:
  FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
  works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.
 
 Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card?
 
 The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the
 Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 card
 (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU)

I've got a start of a driver for this in my tree. It can detect the card,
upload the firmware, start the device up but presently has problems calibrating
the RF crystal. I haven't had time to debug it further but maybe at the 
upcoming hackathon (doubtful though).

-ml


 which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the
 Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 card
 (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH)
 which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230.
 However, it is not..  So, either the whitelist is different depending on
 the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you
 bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card.
 
 Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks!
 
 
 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
  It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one.
 
  See:
  http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575
 
  Hmm, I am not sure to be honest.
 
  --
  Best Regards
  Edd Barrett
 
  http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Thanos Tsouanas
 http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-09 Thread Edd Barrett
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
 It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one.
 
 See:
 http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575

Hmm, I am not sure to be honest.

-- 
Best Regards
Edd Barrett

http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread Edd Barrett
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote:
 
  I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be
  swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle.
 
 Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update
 will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine.

It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel
wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and
I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped
them out for ral, ath or urtwn.

 All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards,
 although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of
 iwn anyway.

misc/tpwireless ;)

I am more interested in the touchscreen support at this stage. The X230t
has one of those pressure sensitive wacom screens. I see FreeBSD has a
Wacom driver, but we don't. Maybe you don't need a driver for the base
functionality...

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Best Regards
Edd Barrett

http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 May 08 (Wed) at 11:07:31 +0100 (+0100), Edd Barrett wrote:
:misc/tpwireless ;)

does *not* work on the x230 and related newer thinkpads.

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thinkers.



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread David Coppa
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote:

  I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be
  swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle.

 Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update
 will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine.

 It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel
 wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and
 I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped
 them out for ral, ath or urtwn.

 All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards,
 although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of
 iwn anyway.

 misc/tpwireless ;)

 I am more interested in the touchscreen support at this stage. The X230t
 has one of those pressure sensitive wacom screens. I see FreeBSD has a
 Wacom driver, but we don't. Maybe you don't need a driver for the base
 functionality...

It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one.

See:

http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575

 --
 Best Regards
 Edd Barrett

Ciao,
David



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-05-08, Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote:
 
  I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be
  swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle.
 
 Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update
 will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine.

 It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel
 wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and
 I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped
 them out for ral, ath or urtwn.

AIUI very latest iwn don't work in OpenBSD yet, and a slightly older
generation (I have the 6205) don't scan properly but otherwise work
quite well. No idea about earlier ones.

 All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards,
 although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of
 iwn anyway.

 misc/tpwireless ;)

tpwireless last worked in the X40/possibly X41 type generation.
For current ones you need to flash a hacked BIOS, or sometimes it's
possible to change the vendor/device ID of the wireless card to a
supported one and modify appropriate drivers to match / not match.



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 13:41, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 AIUI very latest iwn don't work in OpenBSD yet, and a slightly older
 generation (I have the 6205) don't scan properly but otherwise work
 quite well. No idea about earlier ones.

Depends on latest. The new low end centrino 1000 parts are trouble.
I have a 6300, which as far as I know is still the latest, bestest,
top of the line and it appears to work. My laptop came with a 2200, I
bought the 6300 off ebay.

Was about to say I don't know if scanning works, but I can test it.
Nope, doesn't work, just blinks for a while. I never connect to unknown
networks.



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-08 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel
 wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and
 I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped
 them out for ral, ath or urtwn.

FWIW, the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 iwn(4) in my non-t X230
works just fine.  That's the 3x3 card on their order site.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd

2013-05-07 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote:

 I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be
 swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle.

Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update
will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine.

All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards,
although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of
iwn anyway.