Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-02 Thread Markus Schatzl
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:33:21PM -0500, marrandy wrote:
 Has anyone tried VIA Eden fanless at 1GHz yet or the new Eden-N or NL (Luke 
 series) yet ?  If so, how did they perform.

I used to have one of them with a HD plugged.

They perform quite well, as long as you keep them cool enough
under high load (which you cannot do passively). In fact I was
building the userland on a VIA Eden 1 GHz and this melted the
plastic plugs which keep the cooler in touch with the processor.

Building it with some cooling aggregates on top (yes, the one
from the fridge you normally use for cooling your beer while
travelling) even allowed me to build the jdk-stuff without a
single poweroff caused by overheating ;) You see, not quite what
it promises.

If you don't expect high loads and put the board in a suitable
chassis, you will be quite happy with that. Otherwise, don't
waste your money.

All the best,
/Markus



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Riboulet
On 3/2/06, Markus Schatzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:33:21PM -0500, marrandy wrote:
  Has anyone tried VIA Eden fanless at 1GHz yet or the new Eden-N or NL (Luke
  series) yet ?  If so, how did they perform.

 I used to have one of them with a HD plugged.

 They perform quite well, as long as you keep them cool enough
 under high load (which you cannot do passively). In fact I was
 building the userland on a VIA Eden 1 GHz and this melted the
 plastic plugs which keep the cooler in touch with the processor.

 Building it with some cooling aggregates on top (yes, the one
 from the fridge you normally use for cooling your beer while
 travelling) even allowed me to build the jdk-stuff without a
 single poweroff caused by overheating ;) You see, not quite what
 it promises.

 If you don't expect high loads and put the board in a suitable
 chassis, you will be quite happy with that. Otherwise, don't
 waste your money.

 All the best,
 /Markus



hi

I've got a Via card powered by a Eden N 1GHz I've removed the fan and
replaced it with a zalman ZM-NB47J cooler
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=71code=014

Running ok, the box has been a firewall, a mailserver and is now a file server.

--
Thom/ange
http://ange.librium.org



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 15:33, you wrote:
 Has anyone tried VIA Eden fanless at 1GHz yet or the new Eden-N or NL (Luke
 series) yet ?  If so, how did they perform.

 Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.

 http://www.crn.com/sections/testcenter/whitebox/whitebox.jhtml?articleId=17
3402172

I doubt there are boards out for the new 1.5GHz fanless yet though.  But if 
you don't ask...

http://www.itnewsonline.com/showstory.php?storyid=2440scatid=3contid=2



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote:
 Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.
 ^^^ 
 Sure?

Onboard I/O Connectors 1 4-pin CPU fan and 2 3-pin chassis fan

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/index.jsp

3 NICs :-)

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=82

has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks.

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote:
 On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote:
  Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.

  ^^^
  Sure?


That's what it says

The VT310-DP supports the x86 architecture and is powered by two 1GHz VIA 
Eden-N processors. The board supports up to 2 Gbytes of memory in two slots. 
 The VT310-DP motherboard uses very little power. Combined, the two 1GHz VIA 
Eden-N processors draw a maximum of 14 watts.


 Onboard I/O Connectors 1 4-pin CPU fan and 2 3-pin chassis fan

 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/index.jsp

It says it on your link as well

The VT-310DP Mini-ITX Board boasts dual VIA Eden-N NanoBGA Processors



 3 NICs :-)

 Best
 Martin



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote:
 On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote:
  Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.

  ^^^
  Sure?


Or were you talking about the fanless part.

With power consumption so low, the need for cooling fans is eliminated, 


 Onboard I/O Connectors 1 4-pin CPU fan and 2 3-pin chassis fan

 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310dp/index.jsp

the VIA VT310 DP enables the development of a wealth of high density, low 
power consumption, fanless, and embedded applications

 3 NICs :-)

 Best
 Martin



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:33, Martin Schrvder wrote:
 http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=82

 has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks.

I don't see one.  Just a large black clip-on heatsink.  Fans have a power 
connector and I don't see one going off to the motherboard.

It also says

the VIA VT310 DP enables the development of a wealth of high density, low 
power consumption, fanless, and embedded applications

 Best
 Martin



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 18:07:19 -0500, marrandy wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:33, Martin Schrvder wrote:
  http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=82
 
  has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks.
 
 I don't see one.  Just a large black clip-on heatsink.  Fans have a power 
 connector and I don't see one going off to the motherboard.

Page 3 :-)

Read the whole review.

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 18:30, you wrote:

 Look at page 3.  Also note the mobo comes with fan pins labelled cpu
 fan.  Perhaps with a large enough, or well enough desinged heat sink, or
 if the cpu's are clocked down far enough, the fan isn't necessary.

Just read the whole article...hmm...interesting

http://www.epiacenter.com/pictures/news/2006/epia_cn.jpg

Now that is a heatsink.

I'm looking for a fanless VIA with the Padlock crypto system and was hoping 
someone may already have practical experience with recent versions.

Regards...Martin



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 19:11:54 -0500, marrandy wrote:
 http://www.epiacenter.com/pictures/news/2006/epia_cn.jpg
 
 Now that is a heatsink.

Yes. :-)

It would be nice if that beast hat 3 NICs and supported PoE...

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, marrandy wrote:

 On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote:
  On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote:
   Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.
 
   ^^^
   Sure?


 That's what it says

 The VT310-DP supports the x86 architecture and is powered by two 1GHz VIA
 Eden-N processors. The board supports up to 2 Gbytes of memory in two slots.
  The VT310-DP motherboard uses very little power. Combined, the two 1GHz VIA
 Eden-N processors draw a maximum of 14 watts.

They exist.  I know an organization that has 27 of the Dual CPU boards
each with an additional 4 port USB 2.0 card.  They're trying to get them
interconnected with USB 2.0 bridge cables as a hypercube.

diana



Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, marrandy wrote:

 On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote:
  On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote:
   Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz.
 
   ^^^
   Sure?


 Or were you talking about the fanless part.

I don't recall if they're fanless, somewhere I have a picture of them.

diana