Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-04 Thread Marcus Glocker
Hi,

Actually just 802.11b works for the ath, because of some quirks in the
driver code.  Reyk knows about the problem, but it seems not so easy to
fix.

Regards,
Marcus

On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:11:21 +0100 Fridtjof Busse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Seconded (as if I needed to with Theo responding :P)
  
  I have an old Atheros based cardbus adaptor that will supposedly do
  b +g but I know for a fact not a, check the specs of the device
  please and do as Theo asks... dmesg is useful.
 
 Well, I'll not try a with an unsupported piece of hardware.
 According to the manpage my Wistron CM 9 does a/b/g. But it doesn't
 do g and that's why I'm not sure if it will do a as well. 
 Interesting thing is that according to CVS only b was reported
 working, but a/b/g was added to the manpage. It doesn't really help
 me if the manpages lists the modes the card supports instead of the
 mode that OpenBSD supports...
 
 -- 
 Fridtjof Busse
This game lends itself to certain abuses.
   --- Calvin

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Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-04 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/3/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is anybody using 802.11a with ath?
  The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work
  for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually
  works before I buy an antenna for a.
  Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in
  the manpage?

 There are many different models of the ath hardware.  Not everything
 works perfectly -- but much of it does work.  I think it is a bad
 thing to make simplified statements like you did above.

 Without specific model information *taken right out of dmesg*, noone
 will be able to help you.  And your mail joins the archive, feeding
 future pessimism, which it should not really do.


I'm going to look around for various AR5212 devices and try out
802.11a.  There is just way too much b/g traffic in my building on 1,
6, 11, I'm sure there are some 2.4GHz phones, too, so I have to try
something else.  When I do I will report.

Greg



Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
 Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? 
 The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work
 for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually
 works before I buy an antenna for a. 
 Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in
 the manpage? 

There are many different models of the ath hardware.  Not everything
works perfectly -- but much of it does work.  I think it is a bad
thing to make simplified statements like you did above.

Without specific model information *taken right out of dmesg*, noone
will be able to help you.  And your mail joins the archive, feeding
future pessimism, which it should not really do.



Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Fridtjof Busse
* Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? 
  The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't
  work for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b
  actually works before I buy an antenna for a. 
  Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in
  the manpage? 
 
 There are many different models of the ath hardware.  Not everything
 works perfectly -- but much of it does work.  I think it is a bad
 thing to make simplified statements like you did above.

Well, there was a thread some weeks ago that stated that 802.11g
generally doesn't work with ath (in Hostap and 802.11g):
no, only 11b with atheros. there is no implementation for 11g in
openbsd.
Or does g only not work in hostap?

 Without specific model information *taken right out of dmesg*, noone
 will be able to help you.  

ath0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Atheros AR5212 rev 0x01: irq 12
ath0: AR5212 5.9 phy 4.3 rf5112 3.6, FCC1A, address 00:0b:6b:36:00:dc

That's a Wistron CM 9. Any chance of getting a working on this typ of
card?
-- 
Fridtjof Busse
   YAAH! DEATH TO OATMEAL!
  -- Calvin



Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Smith
Seconded (as if I needed to with Theo responding :P)

I have an old Atheros based cardbus adaptor that will supposedly do b+g but
I know for a fact not a, check the specs of the device please and do as Theo
asks... dmesg is useful.

Having said that... Theo it may interest you that the man page says that 3
devices are supported and it states for each that 802.11a is supported..
(AR5210, AR5211 and AR5212).. this may just mean that the driver has moved
beyond the man page but I believe OpenBSD man pages are the best and most
accurate so maybe this needs some updates.

-Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Theo de Raadt
Sent: 03 March 2006 20:48
To: Fridtjof Busse
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: ath and 802.11a 

 Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? 
 The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work
 for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually
 works before I buy an antenna for a. 
 Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in
 the manpage? 

There are many different models of the ath hardware.  Not everything
works perfectly -- but much of it does work.  I think it is a bad
thing to make simplified statements like you did above.

Without specific model information *taken right out of dmesg*, noone
will be able to help you.  And your mail joins the archive, feeding
future pessimism, which it should not really do.



Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Fridtjof Busse
* Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Seconded (as if I needed to with Theo responding :P)
 
 I have an old Atheros based cardbus adaptor that will supposedly do b
 +g but I know for a fact not a, check the specs of the device please
 and do as Theo asks... dmesg is useful.

Well, I'll not try a with an unsupported piece of hardware.
According to the manpage my Wistron CM 9 does a/b/g. But it doesn't do g
and that's why I'm not sure if it will do a as well. 
Interesting thing is that according to CVS only b was reported working,
but a/b/g was added to the manpage. It doesn't really help me if the
manpages lists the modes the card supports instead of the mode that
OpenBSD supports...

-- 
Fridtjof Busse
   This game lends itself to certain abuses.
  --- Calvin