Re: minimum hard-drive space to compile patches?
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I currently have OBSD running on my P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. On install, I chose not to include the compiler set over concern re drive space. The FAQ says how much space is required to minimally run OBSD and it says how much to be able to comfortably compile (4G is not a bad size). It may not be bad but what is the absolute minimum size of hard drive for an i386 to be able to recompile any necessary patches itself? Thanks, Doug. 4G is not a bad size. ;-) (Longer and detailed reply sent offlist -- bottom line, there is no definite minimum. 250MB for comp41.tgz installed, about 120MB more to rebuild a kernel, unknowable amounts for rebuilding parts of userland, ranging from near zero to near 2GB). Solutions: a second fleabay disk, NFS or use a second box. Dave -- Dude, Dave's not here!
Re: minimum hard-drive space to compile patches?
Douglas A. Tutty writes: I currently have OBSD running on my P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. On install, I chose not to include the compiler set over concern re drive space. The FAQ says how much space is required to minimally run OBSD and it says how much to be able to comfortably compile (4G is not a bad size). It may not be bad but what is the absolute minimum size of hard drive for an i386 to be able to recompile any necessary patches itself? Thanks, Doug. I do not want to sound mean or snide here, but you are playing a somewhat foolish game trying to do things on an 850M drive and having to worry about every K of disk. This reminds me of something that Ted Nelson of Xanadu fame once said about people who dealt with inadequate systems: Look what I did with 16K and a Bowie knife! I think you could get away with 2.5G of disk if you aren't using X. /usr/src is around 1G, /usr/obj is I think a little under that, so 2.5G should give you slop room for stuff. But disks, little teeny tiny disks are *cheap*. Newegg has a 40G disk for $38. I could get you in touch with someone who sells pulls from older machines--a 20G disk is likely $33 or so. Given the Newegg price, I don't think it makes any sense to use a pull. Your data is at least that important, right? Carving an op system up to save space always nips you in the ass at one point. Given the technology today, using a sub G disk is quaint. The PII system you have might not be able to address more than 8.4G (though a bios upgrade might fix that if you have problems), but even so for $38 I think I'd do upgrade. That disk is really old and will die before long. 30G and smaller disks seem to be getting rare these days. My $0.02... --STeve Andre'
Re: minimum hard-drive space to compile patches?
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I currently have OBSD running on my P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. On install, I chose not to include the compiler set over concern re drive space. The FAQ says how much space is required to minimally run OBSD and it says how much to be able to comfortably compile (4G is not a bad size). It may not be bad but what is the absolute minimum size of hard drive for an i386 to be able to recompile any necessary patches itself? Thou shall start at Four Gig, perhaps more, no less. Four gig shall be the number thou shall need to be able to store, and the number of the Gig be Four. More thou mayest have, but three gig thou shall not store, excepting that thou then proceed to fill four. Two Gig is right out. 4G. If you want to build X, better make that 6G. COULD you do it in less? Probably. But not much less. Last weekend, I saw brand-new 8G IDE disks for sale for $9US ea. The ONLY excuse trying to cram into smaller disks is if you have an old SCSI-based system, as large-enough narrow SCSI disks are getting hard to come by. Even there, I recently hit the jackpot, having discovered that a number of 9G and 36G SCA disks I have have a jumper that allows them to work on (at least) my mac68k with a suitable adapter. Now, to get some more of those adapters...and fans. Seems mac68ks weren't intended to have enough air flow to keep a 36G 10k disk happy for more than a (very) few hours. yes, the 36G drive, being naughty in the Mac's site, snuffed it. Nick.
