Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Jan Betlach



It was either a really bad joke or mental. Now it is threatening.

So sad.

Jan



On 20 Jun 2019, at 23:54, Theo de Raadt wrote:


Someone is going to have regrets.

Maxim Bourmistrov  wrote:


IF  NOT, I'll  start to talk to Canadian govs

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:48, Maxim Bourmistrov 
 wrote:


 Now, I'd like to se all bills.As I'm  funding this project. 5 years 
from now on.


 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:25, Maxim Bourmistrov 
 wrote:


 I'd say this whole project is your milking cow.(Having a good times 
biking??)
 You really don't move froward much. Except poor guy trying to fix 
net stack.

 You move around  vars, back and forward. But really - no progress.
 Community thinks their push money to dev stuff, in real - their push 
Theos

 bills forward. Nice illusion.
 I'm yet another one in this line. Disappointed, seen to much AND 
been rejected

 by Theos. One in line.

 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:08, Maxim Bourmistrov 
 wrote:


 For me, this does not really matter. )
 I give a sh.
 You just loose yet another testbed.

 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:05, Maxim Bourmistrov 


 wrote:


The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.

 I think ppl get frustrated. Like me, been following obsd since 3.2.
 I think look down on those whom uses your fork.
 and yet, you want donations.
 I think that you have to ask first, if you want to get public 
private

 conversation.
 I think this is controlled by law.


 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:51, Theo de Raadt 
 wrote:

 The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.

 From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:34:54 +0200
 Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
 To: Theo de Raadt 

 Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.

 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt 
 wrote:

  I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.

  Go away.

 From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:35:21 +0200
 Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
 To: Theo de Raadt 

 Fix it NOW!

 On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:34, Maxim Bourmistrov
  wrote:

  Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.

  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt 
 wrote:

  I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.

  Go away.

 From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:41:25 +0200
 Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
 To: Theo de Raadt 

 You are not true here.
 You get paid.
 Fuck man, I like OS and been following for a long time. Team does
 good stuff.
 But something is not OK, since 6.5.
 Question is what is not OK.
 You devs might help out.





Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Ian Darwin

On 6/20/19 5:31 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:

It just doesn't stop.


Maxim Bourmistrov  wrote:


I'd say this whole project is your milking cow.(Having a good times biking??)
You really don't move froward much. Except poor guy trying to fix net stack.
You move around  vars, back and forward. But really - no progress.
Community thinks their push money to dev stuff, in real - their push Theos bills
forward. Nice illusion.
I'm yet another one in this line. Disappointed, seen to much AND been rejected 
by
Theos. One in line.



This is why kill files were invented.



Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
Someone is going to have regrets.

Maxim Bourmistrov  wrote:

> IF  NOT, I'll  start to talk to Canadian govs
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:48, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>  Now, I'd like to se all bills.As I'm  funding this project. 5 years from now 
> on.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:25, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>  I'd say this whole project is your milking cow.(Having a good times biking??)
>  You really don't move froward much. Except poor guy trying to fix net stack.
>  You move around  vars, back and forward. But really - no progress.
>  Community thinks their push money to dev stuff, in real - their push Theos
>  bills forward. Nice illusion.
>  I'm yet another one in this line. Disappointed, seen to much AND been 
> rejected
>  by Theos. One in line.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:08, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>  For me, this does not really matter. )
>  I give a sh.
>  You just loose yet another testbed.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:05, Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  wrote:
> 
>  > The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
>  I think ppl get frustrated. Like me, been following obsd since 3.2.
>  I think look down on those whom uses your fork.
>  and yet, you want donations.
>  I think that you have to ask first, if you want to get public private
>  conversation.
>  I think this is controlled by law.
>   
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:51, Theo de Raadt 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:34:54 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:35:21 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Fix it NOW!
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:34, Maxim Bourmistrov
>   wrote:
> 
>   Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>   On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:41:25 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  You are not true here.
>  You get paid.
>  Fuck man, I like OS and been following for a long time. Team does
>  good stuff.
>  But something is not OK, since 6.5.
>  Question is what is not OK.
>  You devs might help out.
> 



Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
It just doesn't stop.


Maxim Bourmistrov  wrote:

> I'd say this whole project is your milking cow.(Having a good times biking??)
> You really don't move froward much. Except poor guy trying to fix net stack.
> You move around  vars, back and forward. But really - no progress.
> Community thinks their push money to dev stuff, in real - their push Theos 
> bills
> forward. Nice illusion.
> I'm yet another one in this line. Disappointed, seen to much AND been 
> rejected by
> Theos. One in line.
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:08, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>  For me, this does not really matter. )
>  I give a sh.
>  You just loose yet another testbed.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 23:05, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>  > The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
>  I think ppl get frustrated. Like me, been following obsd since 3.2.
>  I think look down on those whom uses your fork.
>  and yet, you want donations.
>  I think that you have to ask first, if you want to get public private
>  conversation.
>  I think this is controlled by law.
>   
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:51, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>  The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:34:54 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:35:21 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Fix it NOW!
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:34, Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>   On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:41:25 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  You are not true here.
>  You get paid.
>  Fuck man, I like OS and been following for a long time. Team does good
>  stuff.
>  But something is not OK, since 6.5.
>  Question is what is not OK.
>  You devs might help out.
> 



Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Bryan Wright
As just a “user” who has been trying to learn the OpenBSD way (which does take 
some effort), I’m very thankful to you and all the devs.  

It’s comedically sad to see the transition from “installing via NOT RECOMMENDED 
WAY” to “I’m your user - FIX IT.”

Sorry you are catching needless abuse, and thank you for doing so.

Bryan



Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
Theo de Raadt  wrote:

> I wish he would leave me alone, I don't need his accusations.
> 
> This Maxim obviously works for someone.  Sometimes I wonder if I
> should make a phone call.

I cannot tell for sure, but maybe it is one of these people.

https://www.verisure.com/about-us

I lead and collaborate with a group of volunteer software developers and
then we *give it all away for free without any warrantee*

There is absolutely no reason for any toxic abuse towards our
group, or me.



Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link (fwd) Maxim Bourmistrov: Re: Reboot and re-link

2019-06-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
I wish he would leave me alone, I don't need his accusations.

This Maxim obviously works for someone.  Sometimes I wonder if I
should make a phone call.

Maxim Bourmistrov  wrote:

> > The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
> I think ppl get frustrated. Like me, been following obsd since 3.2.
> I think look down on those whom uses your fork.
> and yet, you want donations.
> I think that you have to ask first, if you want to get public private 
> conversation.
> I think this is controlled by law.
>  
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:51, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>  The OpenBSD user community is has too many people like this.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:34:54 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:35:21 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  Fix it NOW!
> 
>  On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:34, Maxim Bourmistrov  
> wrote:
> 
>   Go away?! I'm your user - FIX IT.
> 
>   On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 22:32, Theo de Raadt  wrote:
> 
>   I take a lot of responsibility, which is why the system has KARL.
> 
>   Go away.
> 
>  From: Maxim Bourmistrov 
>  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:41:25 +0200
>  Subject: Re: Reboot and re-link
>  To: Theo de Raadt 
> 
>  You are not true here.
>  You get paid.
>  Fuck man, I like OS and been following for a long time. Team does good stuff.
>  But something is not OK, since 6.5.
>  Question is what is not OK.
>  You devs might help out.
>