Re: Relative Firewall Performance: 3.7 and 4.0

2007-02-24 Thread William Bloom
How 'bout the Commell EMB-564VG then, as an alternative to Soekris?   
I've seen a few postings that seem to show high regard.



Billl


On Feb 24, 2007, at 3:49, Stuart Henderson wrote:


On 2007/02/23 18:58, William Bloom wrote:
Hmm, I'm rereading the product description for the Soekris  
lan1621, which
would go into my 4801's PCI slot and give me 2 enet ports.  It  
claims 'High

performance PCI busmaster interface with large buffers and interrupt
holdoff'.
Would you have higher hopes for this than the on-board enet ports?


No, sorry. lan1621 and onboard use the same chip.


Do you know whether the OpenBSD 4.0 sis driver would support the
interrupt holdoff feature?


You can modify it to fairly easily, but I didn't find it helping very
much and it increases latency a bit when traffic is low.

Has anyone on this list actually tried a lan1621 on a Soekris 4801  
in an

effort to boost performance, and were you satisfied with the results?


Not 1621, but using a half-decent gig nic doesn't improve
performance, I doubt it would help very much. (mind you the gig nic
is designed for a standard system and is unlikely to do very much
interrupt mitigation at such low traffic levels as max out the
Geode cpu so there may be some tuning that could be done, nothing
one-size-fits-all though).

I think if you have sufficient traffic that this is a problem,
you could really do with something faster to leave yourself some
headroom to cater for 'unusual' situations (worm activity, etc)
too. There are quite a few single-board computers to choose
from that might be suitable.



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Relative Firewall Performance: 3.7 and 4.0

2007-02-23 Thread William Bloom
I recently upgraded a Soekris 4801 firewall from OpenBSD 3.7 to 4.0.  The
configuration for firewalling (pf.conf) is unchanged.  On 3.7, at peak
throughput I normally saw maybe 65% - 76% interrupt mode and little or no
congestion.  However, on 4.0 with similar traffic levels I see 85% - 95%
interrupt mode and the congestion counter increments fairly rapidly.

Of course, one cannot expect best performance from a Soekris due to the
Ethernet
chipsets, but it was -adequate- on 3.7.

I've spent a little time google'ing for any observations on a difference in
performance between 3.7 and 4.0 and have found nothing useful so far.

Have other list members had this experience or know of anyone else who has?
If
so, has anyone had any favorable performance tuning experiences that might
help
me out?  So far, the only tuning change I've made for 4.0 was to increase
net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen from 50 to 150, but this appears to have had
negligible
impact.


Bill
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Re: Relative Firewall Performance: 3.7 and 4.0

2007-02-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/02/23 16:27, William Bloom wrote:
 I recently upgraded a Soekris 4801 firewall from OpenBSD 3.7 to 4.0.  The
 configuration for firewalling (pf.conf) is unchanged.  On 3.7, at peak
 throughput I normally saw maybe 65% - 76% interrupt mode and little or no
 congestion.  However, on 4.0 with similar traffic levels I see 85% - 95%
 interrupt mode and the congestion counter increments fairly rapidly.

you might get a small improvement if you optimize the pf ruleset.

 Of course, one cannot expect best performance from a Soekris due to the
 Ethernet chipsets, but it was -adequate- on 3.7.

ethernet chipsets make little difference, plug an em(4) in and you'll
see pretty much the same. it's the PCI controller (or lack thereof)
that's the problem.

fwiw, WRAP manage about a 1/3 more throughput from a similar processor,
but I'm not quite sure how.