Re: Simple question about appletalk
Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the laptop only needs www access no appletalk is needed. Appletalk is purely a file serving mechanism, like samba or nfs. If you need appletalk it's pretty easy to set up on OpenBSD. Well... Appletalk itself is a lower-level protocol than samba or nfs; it's a network protocol which is an alternative to IP. That is, it uses link protocols - these days almost always Ethernet; in the last century often also Localtalk, a 230kbps serial protocol - for transport, and carries upper-level protocols, such as AFP (Apple File Protocol) in turn. A similar protocol (in terms of where it sits in the networking stack) would be IPX. In 'modern' Mac usage, Appletalk is still used in some environments for file sharing and for printing. Unless you have bits of kit in place which are happy to route Appletalk, it'll only be carried on one LAN segment. From what I can glean from manpages and Google (and I'll be trying this live in the next month or so, but have no first-hand experience currently) OpenBSD support for Appletalk is available (good) but not turned on in the GENERIC kernel (less good). atalk(4) describes the kernel interface; documentation suggests (but doesn't state authorititavely?) that OpenBSD will route Appletalk among multiple network interfaces; if you want to serve files and/or print, you'll want the netatalk package. There's a 1.6 version in the ports collection; a web page at http://www.doink.org/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20051212224355152 describes a recent instance of 'manual' (i.e. outwith the ports collection) compilation of the 2.0 version. HTH - Stefek
Simple question about appletalk
I need to put a laptop running Mac OS X (10.3 I think) in my OpenBSD powered network - OpenBSD router/firewall. The problem is that I don't know if I need Appletalk or not installed (I have an urgent problem that must be solved with this laptop, but it's not mine and I haven't worked too much with Apple computers). At this moment I don't have the laptop, but I need it up and running in the second when it appears so I need to know in advance if I need to enable Appletalk in the network (this laptop needs only www access). And another problem: in /etc/pf.conf I have scrub in all reassembe tcp - is this a problem with Mac OS X (I have some problems with some Mandriva Linux machines here and I think this is the problem). Thank you very much in advance. Respectfully yours, Gabriel George POPA
Re: Simple question about appletalk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Gabriel George POPA wrote: I need to put a laptop running Mac OS X (10.3 I think) in my OpenBSD powered network - OpenBSD router/firewall. The problem is that I don't know if I need Appletalk or not installed Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD. It is just another commercial UNIX. AppleTalk has not been required for Mac OS general use networking in quite some time. - -- Bryan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bda.mirrorshades.net Cyberpunk is dead. Long live cyberpunk. iD8DBQFD/ge88DRlpnH/NmoRArKQAJwLLAzp2iIzktppXQGRWy6IleHPPQCfTIuR nclfAzmrEYt8xbsovVX4fhM= =64W3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Simple question about appletalk
Sorry for the top-post but there jsut wasn't anywhere appropriate for a snip type of thing. If the laptop only needs www access no appletalk is needed. Appletalk is purely a file serving mechanism, like samba or nfs. If you need appletalk it's pretty easy to set up on OpenBSD. --Bryan On 2/23/06, Gabriel George POPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to put a laptop running Mac OS X (10.3 I think) in my OpenBSD powered network - OpenBSD router/firewall. The problem is that I don't know if I need Appletalk or not installed (I have an urgent problem that must be solved with this laptop, but it's not mine and I haven't worked too much with Apple computers). At this moment I don't have the laptop, but I need it up and running in the second when it appears so I need to know in advance if I need to enable Appletalk in the network (this laptop needs only www access). And another problem: in /etc/pf.conf I have scrub in all reassembe tcp - is this a problem with Mac OS X (I have some problems with some Mandriva Linux machines here and I think this is the problem). Thank you very much in advance. Respectfully yours, Gabriel George POPA
