Re: 5.7 upgrade question
Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not my native lang so from time to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to ask it. Ty for help! I appreciate it so much. 2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka rczlo...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote: Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that kind of questions can appear from me. Please do your homework before asking a question[0]. OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and FAQ[2] So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in month would be nice tho... Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so - always check Following -current[3] beforehand. [0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ [3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html Raf
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote: Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that kind of questions can appear from me. Please do your homework before asking a question[0]. OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and FAQ[2] So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in month would be nice tho... Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so - always check Following -current[3] beforehand. [0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ [3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html Raf
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that kind of questions can appear from me. So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in month would be nice tho... 2015-04-23 10:03 GMT-04:00 David Dahlberg david.dahlb...@fkie.fraunhofer.de : Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 09:51 -0400 schrieb Joseph Oficre: As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. Where did you read that, I did /not/ find this in the upgrade guide. So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten) Not at al. Snapshots are based on -current and thus /newer/ than the upcoming 5.7-release. If you want to follow -release or -stable, please wait until May or until you received your CD set. -- David Dahlberg Fraunhofer FKIE, Dept. Communication Systems (KOM) | Tel: +49-228-9435-845 Fraunhoferstr. 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany| Fax: +49-228-856277
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:49:49 -0400 Joseph Oficre wrote: Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not my native lang so from time to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to ask it. Ty for help! I appreciate it so much. 2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka rczlo...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote: Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that kind of questions can appear from me. Please do your homework before asking a question[0]. OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and FAQ[2] So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in month would be nice tho... You decide, possibly based on wanting a new package due to a feature upgrade such as STARTTLS in spamd or a security update. Do you know that http://stable.mtier.org provide updates for stable (5.7 when it comes out)?
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
If you are new to OpenBSD you should probably avoid running -current until you are much more familiar with everything. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Joseph Oficre wrote: Yeah, i read faq as well, but english is not my native lang so from time to time i just cant clearly understand what something means and prefer to ask it. Ty for help! I appreciate it so much. 2015-04-23 10:42 GMT-04:00 Raf Czlonka rczlo...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:27:15PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote: Oh, i got it, ty for advices, friends! Im pretty new in openbsd, so that kind of questions can appear from me. Please do your homework before asking a question[0]. OpenBSD has excellent documentation - start with manual pages[1] and FAQ[2] So, if i want to run snapshots...how offten do u guys update ur previous one to newer? I just dont want to update my system every few days, ones in month would be nice tho... Provided there are no obvious bugs and you're not planning on installing any ports or packages, there's nothing stopping you from doing so - always check Following -current[3] beforehand. [0] http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi [2] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ [3] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html Raf
5.7 upgrade question
Hi @misc! As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to snapshot one, right? So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten)
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
On Apr 23, 2015 4:52 PM, Joseph Oficre seran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi @misc! As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to snapshot one, right? So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten) Hi, short answer: wait until 1st of May. Regards, Ville
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 09:51 -0400 schrieb Joseph Oficre: As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. Where did you read that, I did /not/ find this in the upgrade guide. So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten) Not at al. Snapshots are based on -current and thus /newer/ than the upcoming 5.7-release. If you want to follow -release or -stable, please wait until May or until you received your CD set. -- David Dahlberg Fraunhofer FKIE, Dept. Communication Systems (KOM) | Tel: +49-228-9435-845 Fraunhoferstr. 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany| Fax: +49-228-856277
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 09:51:13AM -0400 or thereabouts, Joseph Oficre wrote: Hi @misc! As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to snapshot one, right? So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten) No. It will take a while for the ports and mirrors to upgrade.
Re: 5.7 upgrade question
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 02:51:13PM BST, Joseph Oficre wrote: Hi @misc! Hi Joseph, As i see http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade57.html 5.7 upgrade guide is ready. So if i want to upgrade from my 5.6 release i should use bsd.rd from latest snapshot. It means that i need to change my packages path to snapshot one, right? No, latest snapshot != 5.7. 5.7 has been built nearly two months ago. Current snapshots are what will eventually become 5.8. So, can i swap it to 5.7 release package tree after may 1 without getting troubles? (cuz i dont want to update snapshots offten) Wrong again - ports tree has also been frozen a while back. You'll need to wait until 5.7 appears on a mirror near you. Regards, Raf
Re: Upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 29 Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote: I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. Be careful: each release adds, and occasionally removes, new system users. It's far safer to either update or reinstall, and you'll want to look at www.openbsd.org/current.html for anything resembling an update. Joachim Thanks, Joachim. I was going to look in the new group after a fresh install to see what had been added or removed. Always before I've either done a complete fresh install or an upgrade, so I didn't have to worry about the users in /home. I just recreated them on the new system, if it was a fresh install, with their same uid's. Then I copied everything from backups back over to the respective dirs. I was just trying to get out of doing that this time. I figured at the very worst my idea wouldn't work I'd have to wipe it all out do it the old way. I thought if I added the old /home users to the new /etc/group, copied the /home dirs over, ran pwd_mkdb properly chown the /home dirs, it might work. That's what I was trying to find out. Now that I've thought more about it, probably the easiest way is to just exclude /home /data when I delete recreate the other partitions, recreate the users on the new install with their same uid's, run pwd_mkdb their dirs will be okay. Thanks for your answer info. I think I've unnecessarily complicated this. ;) Thoughts? - --Denny White === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === iD8DBQFGXZ4hy0Ty5RZE55oRAipYAKC81rBtYu3mVmilYlAbPuDJLhurMQCfaC/h CdAe5l6Kac/xffbl0rsQi/E= =D5xG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrade question
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote: I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. Be careful: each release adds, and occasionally removes, new system users. It's far safer to either update or reinstall, and you'll want to look at www.openbsd.org/current.html for anything resembling an update. Joachim -- TFMotD: strip (1) - Discard symbols from object files.
Upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. That will never happen - the Hindenburg engineers --Musings From Uncle Phil-- === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === iD8DBQFGW5pxy0Ty5RZE55oRAlvPAKDMIZYBzCtHOBPviEfb7VL1y66HkgCffyg9 i/0ugjMHNghXKPWwCboZVZs= =ka/A -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrade question
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote: I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. In these situations I usually keep a copy of /etc in /home/etc.tgz and just do a new install, skipping the /home and /data partitions when running disklabel. It's never a bad idea to have a full backup, though!
Re: Upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 28 Emilio Perea wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote: I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. In these situations I usually keep a copy of /etc in /home/etc.tgz and just do a new install, skipping the /home and /data partitions when running disklabel. It's never a bad idea to have a full backup, though! Just did a dump on all backed up /etc to the extra hard drive. That's why I mentioned being able to copy the old files over. Just wanted to know if I had it right, the way I said to do it. Thanks for the info. - --Denny White === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === iD8DBQFGW7kdy0Ty5RZE55oRAlD8AJsG9Uf9+tS9TWnOq/0jKbqOzkkGnACfWQGk 2J78K2EAJL1K4YSS3y+txdg= =+FRO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: CD-less upgrade question
Hi Jay, I seem to recall that upgrading via bsd.rd was pretty straightforward... does this still work provided the other upgrade instructions on the website are followed? Worked fine for me, upgrading my laptop from 3.7-stable to Aug18 snapshot. HTH... Nico
CD-less upgrade question
I've got some time this weekend, and would like to upgrade my 3.6 box to 3.7. I checked the upgrade instructions, but they are a bit vague (deliberately?) wrt upgrading without cds. I seem to recall that upgrading via bsd.rd was pretty straightforward... does this still work provided the other upgrade instructions on the website are followed? Thnx, Jay
