Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Thornton
I a clean 5.0 install on my sun blade today;  I setup the ports folder as
the documentation says to do, and I setup my PKG_PATH variable using a
Chicago mirror;  trying to add via the command pkg_add -i gnome-session
yields immediate errors looking for a c library level 60 or 61, not sure
which, but it needs it I am sure to install the package.  I used the
vanillia CD straight off the openbsd website for sparc64.

Not sure what your suggestions will be, but this is not what the docs claim
will be the case.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Richard Thornton 
thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:

 I used the advice from the blog called gab software.  Perhaps he was
 wrong.   I am willing to reinstall.  I have no personal data to lose on
 this old box.



 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:


 On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
  On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
  Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in
 the
  packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
  4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
  means but I do know how to type pkg_add .
 
  Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
  you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
  of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
 
  This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
  packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
  what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
  digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.

 Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
 diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

 Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
 just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
 at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

 * simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
 * set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
 * pkg_add xxxterm
 * pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
 * pkg_add dillo
 * pkg_add conkeror
 * pkg_add midori
 * pkg_add kazehakase
 * pkg_add links+2.2p2
 * pkg_add elinks
 * pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
 * pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
 management system worked fine :)

 Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

 Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
 not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
 until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
 prompt :)

 (I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

 Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
 being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
 it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

 Nick.



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Nick Holland

Complete lack of specifics.
I'm ignoring.

Nick.

On 01/13/2012 01:49 PM, Richard Thornton wrote:

I a clean 5.0 install on my sun blade today;  I setup the ports folder as
the documentation says to do, and I setup my PKG_PATH variable using a
Chicago mirror;  trying to add via the command pkg_add -i gnome-session
yields immediate errors looking for a c library level 60 or 61, not sure
which, but it needs it I am sure to install the package.  I used the
vanillia CD straight off the openbsd website for sparc64.

Not sure what your suggestions will be, but this is not what the docs claim
will be the case.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Richard Thornton
thornton.rich...@gmail.com  wrote:


I used the advice from the blog called gab software.  Perhaps he was
wrong.   I am willing to reinstall.  I have no personal data to lose on
this old box.



Nick Hollandn...@holland-consulting.net  wrote:


On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2011-12-19, Richard Thorntonthornton.rich...@gmail.com  wrote:

Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in

the

packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
means but I do know how to type pkg_add .


Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.

This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.


Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

* simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
* set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
* pkg_add xxxterm
* pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
* pkg_add dillo
* pkg_add conkeror
* pkg_add midori
* pkg_add kazehakase
* pkg_add links+2.2p2
* pkg_add elinks
* pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
* pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
management system worked fine :)

Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
prompt :)

(I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

Nick.




Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Thornton
keeps looking for library c.60.1  which does not exist in a vanilla 5.0
install.



On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.netwrote:

 On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
  On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
  Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in
 the
  packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
  4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
  means but I do know how to type pkg_add .
 
  Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
  you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
  of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
 
  This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
  packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
  what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
  digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.

 Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
 diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

 Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
 just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
 at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

 * simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
 * set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
 * pkg_add xxxterm
 * pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
 * pkg_add dillo
 * pkg_add conkeror
 * pkg_add midori
 * pkg_add kazehakase
 * pkg_add links+2.2p2
 * pkg_add elinks
 * pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
 * pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
 management system worked fine :)

 Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

 Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
 not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
 until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
 prompt :)

 (I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

 Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
 being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
 it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

 Nick.



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Ted Unangst
Incorrect.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012, Richard Thornton wrote:
 keeps looking for library c.60.1  which does not exist in a vanilla 5.0
 install.
 
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Nick Holland
 n...@holland-consulting.netwrote:
 
 On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
  On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
  Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in
 the
  packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
  4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
  means but I do know how to type pkg_add .
 
  Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
  you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
  of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
 
  This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
  packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
  what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
  digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.

 Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
 diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

 Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
 just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
 at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

 * simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
 * set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
 * pkg_add xxxterm
 * pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
 * pkg_add dillo
 * pkg_add conkeror
 * pkg_add midori
 * pkg_add kazehakase
 * pkg_add links+2.2p2
 * pkg_add elinks
 * pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
 * pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
 management system worked fine :)

 Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

 Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
 not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
 until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
 prompt :)

 (I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

 Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
 being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
 it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

 Nick.



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Richard Thornton
OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov  3 00:58:36 MDT 2011

Welcome to OpenBSD: The proactively secure Unix-like operating system.

Please use the sendbug(1) utility to report bugs in the system.
Before reporting a bug, please try to reproduce it with the latest
version of the code.  With bug reports, please try to ensure that
enough information to reproduce the problem is enclosed, and if a
known fix for it exists, include that as well.

$
$
$
$ cat rprofile.txt
# $OpenBSD: dot.profile,v 1.9 2010/12/13 12:54:31 millert Exp $
#
# sh/ksh initialization

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
export PATH
: ${HOME='/root'}
export HOME
PKG_PATH=
ftp://openbsd.mirror.frontiernet.net/pub/OpenBSD/5.0/packages/sparc64/
export PKG_PATH

umask 022

case $- in
*i*)# interactive shell
if [ -x /usr/bin/tset ]; then
if [ X$XTERM_VERSION = X ]; then
eval `/usr/bin/tset -sQ '-munknown:?vt220' $TERM`
else
eval `/usr/bin/tset -IsQ '-munknown:?vt220' $TERM`
fi
fi
;;
esac
$login as: rthornto
rthornto@68.197.72.59's password:
OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov  3 00:58:36 MDT 2011

Welcome to OpenBSD: The proactively secure Unix-like operating system.

Please use the sendbug(1) utility to report bugs in the system.
Before reporting a bug, please try to reproduce it with the latest
version of the code.  With bug reports, please try to ensure that
enough information to reproduce the problem is enclosed, and if a
known fix for it exists, include that as well.

$
$
$
$ cat rprofile.txt
# $OpenBSD: dot.profile,v 1.9 2010/12/13 12:54:31 millert Exp $
#
# sh/ksh initialization

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
export PATH
: ${HOME='/root'}
export HOME
PKG_PATH=
ftp://openbsd.mirror.frontiernet.net/pub/OpenBSD/5.0/packages/sparc64/
export PKG_PATH

umask 022

case $- in
*i*)# interactive shell
if [ -x /usr/bin/tset ]; then
if [ X$XTERM_VERSION = X ]; then
eval `/usr/bin/tset -sQ '-munknown:?vt220' $TERM`
else
eval `/usr/bin/tset -IsQ '-munknown:?vt220' $TERM`
fi
fi
;;
esac
$ clear
$ ls
gnome-session.txt rprofile.txt
$ cat gnome-session.txt
| /usr/lib/libc.so.61.0 (system): bad major
| /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.53.0 (system): bad major
$


On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:

 By lack of info they mean you aren't providing near enough to come to
 any conclusion at all.

 Please paste the output from the following:

 dmesg, echo $PKG_PATH, pkg_info, pkg_add -i gnome-session



 On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Richard Thornton
 thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
  keeps looking for library c.60.1  which does not exist in a vanilla 5.0
  install.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Nick Holland
  n...@holland-consulting.netwrote:
 
  On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
   On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
   Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package
 in
  the
   packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a
 clean
   4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by
 any
   means but I do know how to type pkg_add .
  
   Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing
 (what
   you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the
 contents
   of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
  
   This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
   packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
   what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
   digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.
 
  Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
  diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.
 
  Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
  just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
  at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:
 
  * simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
  * set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
  * pkg_add xxxterm
  * pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
  * pkg_add dillo
  * pkg_add conkeror
  * pkg_add midori
  * pkg_add kazehakase
  * pkg_add links+2.2p2
  * pkg_add elinks
  * pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
  * pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
  management system worked fine :)
 
  Other than links after links+, all installed fine.
 
  Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
  not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
  until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
  prompt :)
 
  (I gotta 

Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2012-01-13 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Thornton
thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 OpenBSD 5.0-current (GENERIC) #65: Thu Nov  3 00:58:36 MDT 2011
snip

PKG_PATH=ftp://openbsd.mirror.frontiernet.net/pub/OpenBSD/5.0/packages/sparc6
4/

You're trying to use -stable packages on a -current system?
Re-install the OS, and don't use the snapshots directory to get your files.

-B



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Thornton
I used the advice from the blog called gab software.  Perhaps he was wrong.   I 
am willing to reinstall.  I have no personal data to lose on this old box.

Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:

On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
 packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
 4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
 means but I do know how to type pkg_add .

 Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
 you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
 of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
 
 This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
 packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
 what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
 digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.

Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

* simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
* set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
* pkg_add xxxterm
* pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
* pkg_add dillo
* pkg_add conkeror
* pkg_add midori
* pkg_add kazehakase
* pkg_add links+2.2p2
* pkg_add elinks
* pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
* pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
management system worked fine :)

Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
prompt :)

(I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

Nick.



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Hessler
there is an excellent blog called www.openbsd.org/faq/. Check out the
advice there.  It's pretty awesome.


On 2011 Dec 20 (Tue) at 07:49:11 -0500 (-0500), Richard Thornton wrote:
:I used the advice from the blog called gab software.  Perhaps he was wrong.   
I am willing to reinstall.  I have no personal data to lose on this old box.
:
:Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
:
:On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
: On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
: Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
: packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
: 4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
: means but I do know how to type pkg_add .
:
: Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
: you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
: of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
: 
: This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
: packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
: what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
: digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.
:
:Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
:diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.
:
:Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
:just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
:at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:
:
:* simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
:* set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
:* pkg_add xxxterm
:* pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
:* pkg_add dillo
:* pkg_add conkeror
:* pkg_add midori
:* pkg_add kazehakase
:* pkg_add links+2.2p2
:* pkg_add elinks
:* pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
:* pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
:management system worked fine :)
:
:Other than links after links+, all installed fine.
:
:Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
:not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
:until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
:prompt :)
:
:(I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)
:
:Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
:being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
:it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.
:
:Nick.
:

-- 
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The first bug to hit a clean windshield lands directly in front
of your eyes.



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2011-12-20 Thread Nick Holland

On 12/20/2011 07:49 AM, Richard Thornton wrote:

I used the advice from the blog called gab software.  Perhaps he was
wrong.   I am willing to reinstall.  I have no personal data to lose
on this old box.


What was deficient on the official documentation?

Nick.



Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 01:02:59PM -0500, Richard Thornton wrote:
 it appears
 that the packages in 4.9 are not always upgradeable to those in 5.0 and
 most packages in 5.0 fail to install due to library dependencies.

What?

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Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 19 December 2011 16:02, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I upgraded my sun blade 100 from 4.9 to 5.0;  no issues but, it appears
 that the packages in 4.9 are not always upgradeable to those in 5.0 and
 most packages in 5.0 fail to install due to library dependencies.  one
 would assume all 5.0 packages are created using the dev tools from 5.0 but
 this does not seem to be true.  I do not have time to track down all these
 issues, so for me openbsd will always remain a fun toy, but no better.


Richard:
sun blade 100 is a sparc64 system, he was specifically asking for amd64.
You clearly have no idea what you're doing, and instead of learning
you go to public bashing, no one is forcing you to do anything, and
we've provided excellent documentation about the upgrade process.

What amazes me is that upgrading is one of best things about OpenBSD,
devs put a lot of effort into doing it right, and yet there are types
like who come and say whatever crap they feel like to.

I've started using OpenBSD in 4.2 and been upgrading since them. I
*never* had an issue.
There are a lot of people out there doing since much much much older
releases.

Insan:
As for the original question, no, you should have no problems. We all
run a bunch of amd64 machines and upgrade it constantly, if not daily.
Please report back if you have any troubles.



Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 19 December 2011 16:20, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
 packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
 4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
 means but I do know how to type pkg_add .

So stop spreading lies and read the documentation before taxing things as
toy.



Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com writes:

 I upgraded my sun blade 100 from 4.9 to 5.0;  no issues but, it appears
 that the packages in 4.9 are not always upgradeable to those in 5.0 and
 most packages in 5.0 fail to install due to library dependencies.  

This sounds suspicously like you're mixing base and packages releases in
some sort of unsupported combination.  A wild guess -- trying to upgrade
the packages not to 5.0, but rather packages matching a snapshot, perhaps?

 one would assume all 5.0 packages are created using the dev tools from
 5.0 but this does not seem to be true.  

Once again, do not attempt to install packages built on and intende for
-current on a system running -stable. 

 I do not have time to track down all these issues, so for me openbsd
 will always remain a fun toy, but no better.

Please go back and check what you did leading up to those errors.  This
sounds like the result of some fairly basic mistake, like trying to
install -current packages on -stable.

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Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
 packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
 4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
 means but I do know how to type pkg_add .

Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.

This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.



Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0

2011-12-19 Thread David Vasek

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:


On 19 December 2011 16:20, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com
wrote:

Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
means but I do know how to type pkg_add .


So stop spreading lies and read the documentation before taxing things as
toy.


With most toys children are not expected to read documentation, you know.

Regards,
David



Re: claimed 5.0 problems on sparc64 (was Re: Upgrading AMD64 4.9-stable to 5.0)

2011-12-19 Thread Nick Holland
On 12/19/11 14:39, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 On 2011-12-19, Richard Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do a simple clean 5.0 install.  One would assume any browser package in the
 packages folder would install. None do for me on sparc, but with a clean
 4.9 install all 4.9 packages install.  I am not a Unix specialist by any
 means but I do know how to type pkg_add .

 Please send a mail to ports@ detailing exactly what you are doing (what
 you're typing, what PKG_PATH is set to if you're using it, the contents
 of /etc/pkg.conf if you're using that) and what output you see.
 
 This is the first I've heard of any major problem with 5.0 release
 packages on any arch, if there is a problem obviously we need to know
 what went wrong so we can avoid it happening in future, but before
 digging into that we need to first rule out incorrect procedure.

Don't bother, he's doing something very wrong.  This is a PEBKAC
diagnostic issue, not an OpenBSD issue.

Just happened to have a blade100 (the machine he named) sitting here,
just loaded it up, but not into production yet, so blew it away (it was
at -current, of course) and did exactly what he said:

* simple 5.0 install from CD (only non-default was to use ntpd)
* set PKG_PATH to my local mirror
* pkg_add xxxterm
* pkg_add firefox36 (didn't seem to be newer ones for sparc64)
* pkg_add dillo
* pkg_add conkeror
* pkg_add midori
* pkg_add kazehakase
* pkg_add links+2.2p2
* pkg_add elinks
* pkg_add w3m-0.5.3
* pkg_add links  FINALLY! an error!  conflict with links+.  Package
management system worked fine :)

Other than links after links+, all installed fine.

Starting them all at the same time on a blade100 with only 512M RAM was
not my most productive move, but they all seemed to be trying to work,
until something ran out of something and X blew me back to a command
prompt :)

(I gotta play with some of these alternate browsers)

Personally, I think he's screwing up between sparc and sparc64.  He's
being VERY sloppy with the platform name_s_ in his posting, so I suspect
it is safe to assume he's doing that elsewhere.

Nick.