Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
Anna Nicole Smith wrote something for the computer thingy? Possible. Blondes have more fun, programming. Yeah. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:41 PM To: Dan Farrell Cc: OpenBSD BSD Subject: Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Dan Farrell wrote: Seriously... this is a troll. This is like electronic insurgency designed to get OBSD supporters in another huff with the Linux world... hasn't bcw(4) provided enough for that purpose? Bless you , Danno. When you're right, you're right. Further, if anyone on this list is of the nature to care what celebrity programmers do or do not do, I suggest they go to http://www.cnn.com and follow the adventures of Nicole Smith's baby and its putative fathers. That is much meatier celebrity-fu than the rather dry and orderly life of the justly esteemed Mr. Torvalds. -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-443-7000 ext. 527
Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. This was the reply I got back: From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) I suspect that OpenSSH would get more funding if it was directed directly to OpenSSH, and not OpenBSD, which almost nobody is interested in. As it is, how much of any money actually goes to OpenSSH development, rather than everything else? Linus I thought the reply was funny.
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
Two points: 1. Please don't post private email. (Apologies if you obtained his permission to post). 2. Who really cares? I'd much rather see contibutions from companies who ship OpenSSH in their products and list SSH support as a feature on their glossy brochures than shaking down other free software developers. -d On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Kernel Monkey wrote: I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. This was the reply I got back: From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) I suspect that OpenSSH would get more funding if it was directed directly to OpenSSH, and not OpenBSD, which almost nobody is interested in. As it is, how much of any money actually goes to OpenSSH development, rather than everything else? Linus I thought the reply was funny.
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. Apart from the fact that was a private email from Linus to you and you broadcast it publically (if you really did email him and he really did reply) who cares what Linus thinks? He is over there with his little chubby baby called Linux. He's like any other parent. He thinks his chubby wrinkly bubby is the best one. Let him have that - his chubby baby is a damned sight better behaved than the babies of a certain ugly commercial parent. If Linus comes in here and starts demanding features be added to OpenSSH then you can pull him up on whether he donates or not. Until then live and let live. (and what Damian said) A
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On 4/10/07, Damien Miller djm@ wrote: Two points: 1. Please don't post private email. (Apologies if you obtained his permission to post). 2. Who really cares? I'd much rather see contibutions from companies who ship OpenSSH in their products and list SSH support as a feature on their glossy brochures than shaking down other free software developers. -d No, not my email. I saw it posted on another site. Sorry.
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:27:55 +0930 Adam Hawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. Apart from the fact that was a private email from Linus to you and you broadcast it publically (if you really did email him and he really did reply) who cares what Linus thinks? He is over there with his little chubby baby called Linux. He's like any other parent. He thinks his chubby wrinkly bubby is the best one. Let him have that - his chubby baby is a damned sight better behaved than the babies of a certain ugly commercial parent. Which commercial *NIX that's still alive is more of a security thread and covered with the same level of stability problems as GNU/Linux? One really stops counting remote exploits for GNU/Linux very soon, otherwise one would have to dedicate one's whole life to do so, it's that time consuming. If Linus comes in here and starts demanding features be added to OpenSSH then you can pull him up on whether he donates or not. Until then live and let live. (and what Damian said) A
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Timo Schoeler wrote: Which commercial *NIX that's still alive is more of a security thread and covered with the same level of stability problems as GNU/Linux? One really stops counting remote exploits for GNU/Linux very soon, otherwise one would have to dedicate one's whole life to do so, it's that time consuming. That's nice, but what does bashing other operating systems have to do with OpenBSD? -d
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:27:48 +1000 (EST) Damien Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Timo Schoeler wrote: Which commercial *NIX that's still alive is more of a security thread and covered with the same level of stability problems as GNU/Linux? One really stops counting remote exploits for GNU/Linux very soon, otherwise one would have to dedicate one's whole life to do so, it's that time consuming. That's nice, but what does bashing other operating systems have to do with OpenBSD? bashing? me? never! just facing the truth. timo :) [now let's stop abusing electrons for discussing the totally meaningless opinion of a selfish loser -- linus']
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 03:06, Kernel Monkey wrote: On 4/10/07, Damien Miller djm@ wrote: Two points: 1. Please don't post private email. (Apologies if you obtained his permission to post). 2. Who really cares? I'd much rather see contibutions from companies who ship OpenSSH in their products and list SSH support as a feature on their glossy brochures than shaking down other free software developers. -d No, not my email. I saw it posted on another site. Sorry. Well stop lying (and trolling) then !!! You said:- I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. This was the reply I got back: From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) I suspect that OpenSSH would get more funding if it was directed directly to OpenSSH, and not OpenBSD, which almost nobody is interested in. As it is, how much of any money actually goes to OpenSSH development, rather than everything else? Linus I thought the reply was funny.
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
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Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
Seriously... this is a troll. This is like electronic insurgency designed to get OBSD supporters in another huff with the Linux world... hasn't bcw(4) provided enough for that purpose? danno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:44 AM To: Kernel Monkey Cc: Damien Miller; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH On Wednesday 11 April 2007 03:06, Kernel Monkey wrote: On 4/10/07, Damien Miller djm@ wrote: Two points: 1. Please don't post private email. (Apologies if you obtained his permission to post). 2. Who really cares? I'd much rather see contibutions from companies who ship OpenSSH in their products and list SSH support as a feature on their glossy brochures than shaking down other free software developers. -d No, not my email. I saw it posted on another site. Sorry. Well stop lying (and trolling) then !!! You said:- I recently wrote Linus Torvalds asking why I don't see his name listed on the OpenBSD donations page (http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html), since I figured he uses OpenSSH. This was the reply I got back: From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) I suspect that OpenSSH would get more funding if it was directed directly to OpenSSH, and not OpenBSD, which almost nobody is interested in. As it is, how much of any money actually goes to OpenSSH development, rather than everything else? Linus I thought the reply was funny.
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
The great thing about it is that people perusing the archives will see the trollfest and probably not get this far to see us cluing in and being calm and civil. -Nick On 4/11/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously... this is a troll. This is like electronic insurgency designed to get OBSD supporters in another huff with the Linux world... hasn't bcw(4) provided enough for that purpose? danno
Re: Why Linus Torvalds won't donate to OpenSSH
On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Dan Farrell wrote: Seriously... this is a troll. This is like electronic insurgency designed to get OBSD supporters in another huff with the Linux world... hasn't bcw(4) provided enough for that purpose? Bless you , Danno. When you're right, you're right. Further, if anyone on this list is of the nature to care what celebrity programmers do or do not do, I suggest they go to http://www.cnn.com and follow the adventures of Nicole Smith's baby and its putative fathers. That is much meatier celebrity-fu than the rather dry and orderly life of the justly esteemed Mr. Torvalds. -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-443-7000 ext. 527
