Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW
On 2024-08-30, Florian Obser wrote: >> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for >> posting in the misc@ list? > > I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me. I fear you may be right. If people would stop replying to stupid messages on-list it would help those of us who already have setup scorefiles to make the misc list semi-readable. -- Please keep replies on the mailing list.
Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW
> Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for > posting in the misc@ list? I would recommend not reading misc. But that might just be me. -- In my defence, I have been left unsupervised.
Re: E-mail address openly visible in the WWW
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 05:06:32PM +0200, rfab...@mhsmail.ch wrote: > I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are > openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might > be a privacy hasard. > > Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for > posting in the misc@ list? I would not consider the openbsd-misc archives a higher risk than any other mailing list archives. There are ways to mask addresses in mailing list archives, but whether the people in charge of the archives consider the effort required to set up such a thing worth it is entirely up to them. That said, if you have reason to believe that making your email address available in searchable archives on the Internet, using an alternate address for posting to the list might be a workable option. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
E-mail address openly visible in the WWW
Dear friends I have observed the e-mail addresses of the misc@ contributors are openly visible in the World Wide Web. I'm not sure whether this might be a privacy hasard. Do you recommend using a separate, dedicated e-mail address for posting in the misc@ list? Best regards
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:41:46PM +0100, Radek wrote: > Hi, > a few days ago all my boxes using the same ISP stopped to send me emails from > local users and daemons (daily outputs and any other cronjob reports) to > @gmail.com. > I have tried to send email to a few not_gmail mailboxes - the same problem. > If i send emails from other boxes (using other ISP), they are received > correctly. > > Telnet test doesn't show the "220 mx.google." line. Does is mean that > port 25 is blocked by the ISP? > I would guess not since it shows you connected. > $ telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 > Trying 173.194.220.26... > Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > Connection closed by foreign host. > > > $ smtpctl remove all > 14 envelopes removed > $ echo test-123 | mail -s test-123 a...@gmail.com > $ tail -n 30 /var/log/maillog > Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp connected > address=local host=fw66-krz.krz > Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp message > msgid=ba93721b size=331 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP > Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp envelope > evpid=ba93721b7de7a76f from= to= > Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp disconnected > reason=quit > Jan 28 20:06:57 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b8138ac37b4db mta error > reason=Connection closed unexpectedly > Jan 28 20:06:57 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> > 142.250.96.27 (142.250.96.27) for 15s > Jan 28 20:07:12 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> > 142.250.96.27 (142.250.96.27) > Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b8139462f1927 mta error > reason=Connection closed unexpectedly > Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> > 108.177.112.27 (108.177.112.27) for 15s > Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813c3c64b02d mta connecting > address=smtp://142.250.96.27:25 host=142.250.96.27 > Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813c3c64b02d mta connected > Jan 28 20:07:29 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> > 108.177.112.27 (108.177.112.27) > Jan 28 20:07:30 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813ddb20a2c5 mta connecting > address=smtp://108.177.112.27:25 host=108.177.112.27 > Jan 28 20:07:30 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813ddb20a2c5 mta connected > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:26:17 - (UTC) > Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > On 2021-01-25, latincom wrote: > > > It had worked for many years; but this time OpenBSD 6.8; server and > > > Laptop, are not working as the man page says. > > > > > > I did an empiric test, because i am not qualified for a real test. > > > > > > Both are not able to send messages (e-mails), to other machines. > > > The message at maillog is the same: > > > > > > result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" > > > > Perhaps your ISP blocks port 25. What do you get if you type > > "telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25"? It should go something > > like this: > > > > $ telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 > > Trying 66.102.1.27... > > Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtpquit > > 221 2.0.0 closing > > connection k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtp > > Connection closed by foreign host. > > > > > > > > -- > Radek >
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
Hi, a few days ago all my boxes using the same ISP stopped to send me emails from local users and daemons (daily outputs and any other cronjob reports) to @gmail.com. I have tried to send email to a few not_gmail mailboxes - the same problem. If i send emails from other boxes (using other ISP), they are received correctly. Telnet test doesn't show the "220 mx.google." line. Does is mean that port 25 is blocked by the ISP? $ telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 Trying 173.194.220.26... Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. $ smtpctl remove all 14 envelopes removed $ echo test-123 | mail -s test-123 a...@gmail.com $ tail -n 30 /var/log/maillog Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp connected address=local host=fw66-krz.krz Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp message msgid=ba93721b size=331 nrcpt=1 proto=ESMTP Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp envelope evpid=ba93721b7de7a76f from= to= Jan 28 20:06:43 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813accae5132 smtp disconnected reason=quit Jan 28 20:06:57 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b8138ac37b4db mta error reason=Connection closed unexpectedly Jan 28 20:06:57 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> 142.250.96.27 (142.250.96.27) for 15s Jan 28 20:07:12 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> 142.250.96.27 (142.250.96.27) Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b8139462f1927 mta error reason=Connection closed unexpectedly Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> 108.177.112.27 (108.177.112.27) for 15s Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813c3c64b02d mta connecting address=smtp://142.250.96.27:25 host=142.250.96.27 Jan 28 20:07:14 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813c3c64b02d mta connected Jan 28 20:07:29 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> 108.177.112.27 (108.177.112.27) Jan 28 20:07:30 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813ddb20a2c5 mta connecting address=smtp://108.177.112.27:25 host=108.177.112.27 Jan 28 20:07:30 fw66-krz smtpd[69953]: 717b813ddb20a2c5 mta connected On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:26:17 - (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2021-01-25, latincom wrote: > > It had worked for many years; but this time OpenBSD 6.8; server and > > Laptop, are not working as the man page says. > > > > I did an empiric test, because i am not qualified for a real test. > > > > Both are not able to send messages (e-mails), to other machines. > > The message at maillog is the same: > > > > result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" > > Perhaps your ISP blocks port 25. What do you get if you type > "telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25"? It should go something > like this: > > $ telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 > Trying 66.102.1.27... > Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtpquit > 221 2.0.0 closing > connection k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtp > Connection closed by foreign host. > > -- Radek
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
Diana Eichert wrote on Wed [2021-Jan-27 08:30:34 -0700]: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:25 PM latincom wrote: > > > > Hello misc@ > > > > I can not believe that the solution has been to open port 25, Vultr rent > > servers whit port 25 closed! > > > > Thanks so much to Stuart Henderson for the solution. > > Yes Vultr and many other VM providers block tcp port 25 by default, > however most will open it up if you request it. Vultr isn't my only VPS provider but I definitely recommend them. When I submitted a ticket requesting they open port 25, they responded within minutes on a weekend. BTW that info about 25 (and a few other ports I believe) being blocked by default is somewhere on their website. Mitch
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:25 PM latincom wrote: > > Hello misc@ > > I can not believe that the solution has been to open port 25, Vultr rent > servers whit port 25 closed! > > Thanks so much to Stuart Henderson for the solution. Yes Vultr and many other VM providers block tcp port 25 by default, however most will open it up if you request it.
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
Hello misc@ I can not believe that the solution has been to open port 25, Vultr rent servers whit port 25 closed! Thanks so much to Stuart Henderson for the solution. On 2021-01-20 5:04 p.m., latincom wrote: I read the archives of OpenSMTPD, and found 2 messages related to ssl, nothing more. Can someone give me an advise where to look, please? did something stupid, maybe: I forgot, that the installer, ask for a name; then i wrote a name, which later change to a fqdn; according to man page; declared it in hosts and myname! From Log: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=11h8m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" smtp.conf: # $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.14 2019/11/26 20:14:38 gilles Exp $ # This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file. # See smtpd.conf(5) for more information. table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases listen on socket # To accept external mail, replace with: listen on all # listen on all action "local_mail" mbox alias action "outbound" relay # Uncomment the following to accept external mail for domain "example.org" # match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" match from local for local action "local_mail" match from local for any action "outbound" ssl: m# ls -l /etc/ssl/ total 764 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 350172 Oct 4 23:47 cert.pem -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3791 Jan 10 23:57 fullchain.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2703 Oct 4 23:47 ikeca.cnf -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 745 Oct 4 23:47 openssl.cnf drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jan 10 23:57 private -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1006 Oct 4 23:47 x509v3.cnfatch from local
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
On 2021-01-25, latincom wrote: > It had worked for many years; but this time OpenBSD 6.8; server and > Laptop, are not working as the man page says. > > I did an empiric test, because i am not qualified for a real test. > > Both are not able to send messages (e-mails), to other machines. > The message at maillog is the same: > > result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" Perhaps your ISP blocks port 25. What do you get if you type "telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25"? It should go something like this: $ telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 Trying 66.102.1.27... Connected to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx.google.com ESMTP k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtpquit 221 2.0.0 closing connection k2si3832128wrm.242 - gsmtp Connection closed by foreign host.
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
Hello misc@ From smtpd.conf Man Page: "EXAMPLES The default smtpd.conf file which ships with OpenBSD listens on the loopback network interface (lo0) and allows for mail from users and daemons on the local machine, as well as permitting email to remote servers. Some more complex configurations are given below." It had worked for many years; but this time OpenBSD 6.8; server and Laptop, are not working as the man page says. I did an empiric test, because i am not qualified for a real test. Both are not able to send messages (e-mails), to other machines. The message at maillog is the same: result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" I did 2 clean installations; one server, and one laptop; then i sended one message from server to Laptop, and viceverse. The message in both is the same. It was after this change in smtpd.conf: match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" If i send an e-mail from other machine, it is received correctly. Is it possible that something is wrong in my installations? Thanks for your attention. On 2021-01-21 10:16 a.m., latincom wrote: Thanks for your answer, it is my DNS: Type Name Value TTL Actions a @ 45.77.204.237 1/2 Hour Edit a mail 45.77.204.237 1 Hour Edit cname www @ 1 Hour Edit cname _domainconnect _domainconnect.gd.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour Edit mx @ mail.agroena.org (Priority: 0) 1 Hour Edit ns @ ns61.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour ns @ ns62.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour soa @ Primary nameserver: ns61.domaincontrol.com. 1 Hour Full reference to 1 e-mail sended: Jan 21 17:13:47 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> 199.185.178.25 (mail.openbsd.org) for 15s Jan 21 17:13:47 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: No valid route for [connector:[]->[relay:openbsd.org,smtp],0x0] Jan 21 17:13:48 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> 209.85.232.27 (qt-in-f27.1e100.net) Jan 21 17:13:53 sophie smtpd[41216]: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=1d4h28m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" On 2021-01-20 11:49 p.m., Martijn van Duren wrote: You haven't given much log output, but "Network error on destination MXs" usually indicates something like DNS or network issues. Considering it states relay="openbsd.org", where it should be "mail.openbsd.org" my best guess is DNS issues. martijn@ On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 17:04 -0800, latincom wrote: I read the archives of OpenSMTPD, and found 2 messages related to ssl, nothing more. Can someone give me an advise where to look, please? did something stupid, maybe: I forgot, that the installer, ask for a name; then i wrote a name, which later change to a fqdn; according to man page; declared it in hosts and myname! From Log: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=11h8m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" smtp.conf: # $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.14 2019/11/26 20:14:38 gilles Exp $ # This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file. # See smtpd.conf(5) for more information. table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases listen on socket # To accept external mail, replace with: listen on all # listen on all action "local_mail" mbox alias action "outbound" relay # Uncomment the following to accept external mail for domain "example.org" # match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" match from local for local action "local_mail" match from local for any action "outbound" ssl: m# ls -l /etc/ssl/ total 764 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 350172 Oct 4 23:47 cert.pem -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3791 Jan 10 23:57 fullchain.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2703 Oct 4 23:47 ikeca.cnf -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 745 Oct 4 23:47 openssl.cnf drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jan 10 23:57 private -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1006 Oct 4 23:47 x509v3.cnfatch from local
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
Thanks for your answer, it is my DNS: TypeNameValue TTL Actions a @ 45.77.204.237 1/2 HourEdit a mail45.77.204.237 1 Hour Edit cname www @ 1 Hour Edit cname _domainconnect _domainconnect.gd.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour Edit mx @ mail.agroena.org (Priority: 0) 1 Hour Edit ns @ ns61.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour ns @ ns62.domaincontrol.com 1 Hour soa @ Primary nameserver: ns61.domaincontrol.com. 1 Hour Full reference to 1 e-mail sended: Jan 21 17:13:47 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: Disabling route [] <-> 199.185.178.25 (mail.openbsd.org) for 15s Jan 21 17:13:47 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: No valid route for [connector:[]->[relay:openbsd.org,smtp],0x0] Jan 21 17:13:48 sophie smtpd[41216]: smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> 209.85.232.27 (qt-in-f27.1e100.net) Jan 21 17:13:53 sophie smtpd[41216]: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=1d4h28m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" On 2021-01-20 11:49 p.m., Martijn van Duren wrote: You haven't given much log output, but "Network error on destination MXs" usually indicates something like DNS or network issues. Considering it states relay="openbsd.org", where it should be "mail.openbsd.org" my best guess is DNS issues. martijn@ On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 17:04 -0800, latincom wrote: I read the archives of OpenSMTPD, and found 2 messages related to ssl, nothing more. Can someone give me an advise where to look, please? did something stupid, maybe: I forgot, that the installer, ask for a name; then i wrote a name, which later change to a fqdn; according to man page; declared it in hosts and myname! From Log: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=11h8m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" smtp.conf: # $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.14 2019/11/26 20:14:38 gilles Exp $ # This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file. # See smtpd.conf(5) for more information. table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases listen on socket # To accept external mail, replace with: listen on all # listen on all action "local_mail" mbox alias action "outbound" relay # Uncomment the following to accept external mail for domain "example.org" # match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" match from local for local action "local_mail" match from local for any action "outbound" ssl: m# ls -l /etc/ssl/ total 764 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 350172 Oct 4 23:47 cert.pem -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3791 Jan 10 23:57 fullchain.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2703 Oct 4 23:47 ikeca.cnf -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 745 Oct 4 23:47 openssl.cnf drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jan 10 23:57 private -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1006 Oct 4 23:47 x509v3.cnfatch from local
Re: OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
You haven't given much log output, but "Network error on destination MXs" usually indicates something like DNS or network issues. Considering it states relay="openbsd.org", where it should be "mail.openbsd.org" my best guess is DNS issues. martijn@ On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 17:04 -0800, latincom wrote: > I read the archives of OpenSMTPD, and found 2 messages related to ssl, > nothing more. Can someone give me an advise where to look, please? > > did something stupid, maybe: > I forgot, that the installer, ask for a name; then i wrote a name, which > later change to a fqdn; according to man page; declared it in hosts and > myname! > > From Log: > mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= > to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" > delay=11h8m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" > > smtp.conf: > # $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.14 2019/11/26 20:14:38 gilles Exp $ > > # This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file. > # See smtpd.conf(5) for more information. > > table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases > > listen on socket > > # To accept external mail, replace with: listen on all > # > listen on all > > action "local_mail" mbox alias > action "outbound" relay > > # Uncomment the following to accept external mail for domain "example.org" > # > match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" > match from local for local action "local_mail" > match from local for any action "outbound" > > ssl: > m# ls -l /etc/ssl/ > total 764 > -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 350172 Oct 4 23:47 cert.pem > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3791 Jan 10 23:57 fullchain.pem > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2703 Oct 4 23:47 ikeca.cnf > -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 745 Oct 4 23:47 openssl.cnf > drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jan 10 23:57 private > -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1006 Oct 4 23:47 x509v3.cnfatch from local > > >
OpenSMTPD is not sending e-mail.
I read the archives of OpenSMTPD, and found 2 messages related to ssl, nothing more. Can someone give me an advise where to look, please? did something stupid, maybe: I forgot, that the installer, ask for a name; then i wrote a name, which later change to a fqdn; according to man page; declared it in hosts and myname! From Log: mta delivery evpid=7465b44496df9b1a from= to= rcpt=<-> source="-" relay="openbsd.org" delay=11h8m1s result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs" smtp.conf: # $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.14 2019/11/26 20:14:38 gilles Exp $ # This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file. # See smtpd.conf(5) for more information. table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases listen on socket # To accept external mail, replace with: listen on all # listen on all action "local_mail" mbox alias action "outbound" relay # Uncomment the following to accept external mail for domain "example.org" # match from any for domain "agroena.org" action "local_mail" match from local for local action "local_mail" match from local for any action "outbound" ssl: m# ls -l /etc/ssl/ total 764 -r--r--r-- 1 root bin350172 Oct 4 23:47 cert.pem -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel3791 Jan 10 23:57 fullchain.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel2703 Oct 4 23:47 ikeca.cnf -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 745 Oct 4 23:47 openssl.cnf drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jan 10 23:57 private -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1006 Oct 4 23:47 x509v3.cnfatch from local
Re: E-mail problem
On 2020-11-13, Berkay Tuncel wrote: > Hi all, > > > > We need an advice for our e-mail traffic with openbsd.org > > > When I sent an e-mail to openbsd.org which is rhs, from 160.75.0.0/16, I > got a TLS handshake error. On the other hand, when I tried from another > subnet, there was no problem. It would help to include the logs from your MTA (including timestamps) and the exact text of the error message. "tried from another subnet" - is that the same machine using a different source address - or a different machine on another subnet? > Nevertheless, our mta has not a problem like this with any other mta. > That's why, I think it can be a network related issue but still we need > some help :) Maybe network related, maybe TLS stack.
Re: E-mail problem
On 20/11/13 11:26, Berkay Tuncel wrote: > Hi all, > > > > We need an advice for our e-mail traffic with openbsd.org > > > When I sent an e-mail to openbsd.org which is rhs, from 160.75.0.0/16, I > got a TLS handshake error. On the other hand, when I tried from another > subnet, there was no problem. > > > Nevertheless, our mta has not a problem like this with any other mta. > That's why, I think it can be a network related issue but still we need > some help :) > > > Thanks. > > Berkay I'm no expert on smtpd(8); that said, it's essential to post an appropriate amount of information to troubleshoot the problem. In your case, that means including what's inside smtpd.conf(5) and pf.conf(5) (as it could be related to packet filtering), as well as output from /var/log/maillog and dmesg(8). I might be forgetting something, in which case someone else can chime in with additions, but these are the obvious inclusions in my mind. -- https://amissing.link
Re: E-mail problem
Hi Tom, Firstly thanks for your response. I am sending it from itu.edu.tr Yes, we have spf records and also other smtp precautions such as dkim and so on. We use sendmail, so we have sendmail conf and macro. Also, we have cipher restrictions. Nevertheless, the cipher which has successful communication with mail.openbsd.org is allowed on our mta. Meanwhile this cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384. Thanks. Berkay Tom Smyth , 13 Kas 2020 Cum, 15:27 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Do u have an spf record for your domain and what domain are you sending > from? > > What is your opensmtpd.conf > Do u have restrictions onciphers supported by your mta > > On Friday, 13 November 2020, Berkay Tuncel wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> We need an advice for our e-mail traffic with openbsd.org >> >> >> When I sent an e-mail to openbsd.org which is rhs, from 160.75.0.0/16, I >> got a TLS handshake error. On the other hand, when I tried from another >> subnet, there was no problem. >> >> >> Nevertheless, our mta has not a problem like this with any other mta. >> That's why, I think it can be a network related issue but still we need >> some help :) >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Berkay >> > > > -- > Kindest regards, > Tom Smyth. > -- Berkay TUNCEL
Re: E-mail problem
Do u have an spf record for your domain and what domain are you sending from? What is your opensmtpd.conf Do u have restrictions onciphers supported by your mta On Friday, 13 November 2020, Berkay Tuncel wrote: > Hi all, > > > > We need an advice for our e-mail traffic with openbsd.org > > > When I sent an e-mail to openbsd.org which is rhs, from 160.75.0.0/16, I > got a TLS handshake error. On the other hand, when I tried from another > subnet, there was no problem. > > > Nevertheless, our mta has not a problem like this with any other mta. > That's why, I think it can be a network related issue but still we need > some help :) > > > Thanks. > > Berkay > -- Kindest regards, Tom Smyth.
E-mail problem
Hi all, We need an advice for our e-mail traffic with openbsd.org When I sent an e-mail to openbsd.org which is rhs, from 160.75.0.0/16, I got a TLS handshake error. On the other hand, when I tried from another subnet, there was no problem. Nevertheless, our mta has not a problem like this with any other mta. That's why, I think it can be a network related issue but still we need some help :) Thanks. Berkay
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Hi misc, I was following with a bit of amusement recent thread https://marc.info/?t=15629982761&r=1&w=2 as a signal-to-noise ratio is typically higher on misc@openbsd than most non-developer mailing lists I am subscribed to. At some point it occurred to me that Eric Faurot was working on the new lpd server https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20180509184829 which is showing a bit its age but it is still head and shoulder easier to use than CUPS in the most SOHO environments at least until foomatic-rip was intensionally broken by upstream. Can somebody give to people like me who don't follow closely changes in the source code an update on the status of new lpd server? I do understand that in the lieu of the fact that most hardware these days comes network ready and with build in CUPS server incentive to work on lpd might not be as high as a decade or two ago. Most Kind Regards, Predrag Punosevac
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"f...@freddyfisker.dk" writes: > I have been using Trojita for more than 2 years without problems, but now I > can't sent mails any more. > > It's OpenBSD 6.1 and Trojita 0.7p1 I am using. > > When I try to sent an e-mail, there is coming a window with the text: Host > not found. > > Then the mail is in Trojita folder: Sent > > But the mail is not sent. > > This mail is sent from my webmail. I recommend verifying with your mail administrator the SMTP server and settings you should be using. The fact that you happen to be running OpenBSD seems to be irrelevant, based on your problem statement.
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Re: Mail : MRA MDA LDA e-mail processors in OpenBSD
>I don't know what "MRA" means, but for fetching: According to Wikipedia's "Email agent" there are: Mail user agent (MUA) Mail submission agent (MSA) Mail access agent (MAA) Mail transfer agent (MTA) Mail delivery agent (MDA) Mail retrieval agent (MRA)
Re: Mail : MRA MDA LDA e-mail processors in OpenBSD
lampsh...@poczta.fm (Lampshade), 2016.03.26 (Sat) 12:35 (CET): > I am casual OpenBSD user. I use it on laptop. I don't have servers and > do *not* want to create my own mail service. I use what crowd uses: > I have Yahoo, Gmail, Yandex mail accounts. > > I would like to use mutt and shell scripts for mail notification etc. > To accomplish this I want to have local copy of mail in > Maildir format. > What MRA do you use for that? Getmail, fetchmail or something else? I don't know what "MRA" means, but for fetching: fdm is a simple, lightweight replacement for mail fetch, filter and delivery programs such as fetchmail and procmail. It can fetch using POP3 or IMAP (with SSL) or from stdin, and deliver to a pipe, file, maildir, mbox or SMTP server, based on regexps. Maintainer: Nicholas Marriott If you want to sync: OfflineIMAP is a tool to simplify your e-mail reading. With OfflineIMAP, you can read the same mailbox from multiple computers. You get a current copy of your messages on each computer, and changes you make one place will be visible on all other systems. For instance, you can delete a message on your home computer, and it will appear deleted on your work computer as well. OfflineIMAP is also useful if you want to use a mail reader that does not have IMAP support, has poor IMAP support, or does not provide disconnected operation. Both are in ports/packages, both work for me(tm). > Is there something in OpenBSD's base for that? Don't think so. > I would also like to do some things with mail for example > get rid off attachments for mail in one account and do reverse, > opposite on the other account: just backup attachments saving them > in normal file names with appropriate extensins in file names, > not inside other Maildir messages. > To accomplish this I think, but I am not sure, I need MDA such as > procmail or maildrop or something similar. > What do you use? I want something quite secure and not much > complicated. It does *not* need to be feature rich. > Bonus points for software in OpenBSD's base. I'd be interested to hear how long it has taken you from the current status to "mission accomplished". About 20 years on my part... without "mission accomplished". Bye, Marcus > !DSPAM:56f673f982709906019753!
Mail : MRA MDA LDA e-mail processors in OpenBSD
Hello, I am casual OpenBSD user. I use it on laptop. I don't have servers and do *not* want to create my own mail service. I use what crowd uses: I have Yahoo, Gmail, Yandex mail accounts. I would like to use mutt and shell scripts for mail notification etc. To accomplish this I want to have local copy of mail in Maildir format. What MRA do you use for that? Getmail, fetchmail or something else? Is there something in OpenBSD's base for that? I would also like to do some things with mail for example get rid off attachments for mail in one account and do reverse, opposite on the other account: just backup attachments saving them in normal file names with appropriate extensins in file names, not inside other Maildir messages. To accomplish this I think, but I am not sure, I need MDA such as procmail or maildrop or something similar. What do you use? I want something quite secure and not much complicated. It does *not* need to be feature rich. Bonus points for software in OpenBSD's base.
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Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Bob Beck wrote: > Oh please. like the address coming from "openbsd.org" matters... It's > *email*... > You seem to have misunderstood my comment. If e-mail address "A" is in the set {"legit", "potentially spoofed"}, then you have to have additional measures to determine which set it's in. If e-mail address "B" is not in the set {"legit", "potentially spoofed"}, then you certainly shouldn't assume it's legit. The quoted e-mail wasn't from openbsd.org. Assuming it's legit is nonsense. -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows.
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
> That's not *just* funny...it makes my sides hurt. > > To others thinking about responding: > > Check the OP's email address. Note that it doesn't end with "openbsd.org" > or similar. > Oh please. like the address coming from "openbsd.org" matters... It's *email*... $ dig openbsd.org mx ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> openbsd.org mx ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65183 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 8, ADDITIONAL: 9 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;openbsd.org. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: openbsd.org.50966 IN MX 6 shear.ucar.edu. openbsd.org.50966 IN MX 10 cvs.openbsd.org. $ hostname big.evil.nobob.org $ telnet shear.ucar.edu 25 Trying 192.43.244.163... Connected to shear.ucar.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220 openbsd.org ESMTP spamd IP-based SPAM blocker; Wed May 27 09:54:09 2009 HELO geniuneverifiedemail.openbsd.org 250 shear.ucar.edu Hello big.evil.notbob.org [129.128.11.10], pleased to meet you MAIL FROM: 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok RCPT TO: 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself From: Bob Beck Via Secure Email To: X-Security-Verified: Trusted Email. Always Watch for this Hi this is bob. really. I can haz Ur Passwordz plz? ohai, and Ur bank accountz and sinz too? . 250 2.0.0 n4RFs9K8004500 Message accepted for delivery QUIT 221 2.0.0 shear.ucar.edu closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. $ Kids these days. -Bob
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
> > > Original thread: > http://marc.info/?t=12428629293&r=1&w=2 > > Message that Bob replied to, starting a new thread (at least as far as > Gmail is concerned): The in-reply-to header was correct, just because the subject line changes doesn't make it a new thread. Mutt seems to understand it's the same thread just fine. So Gmail doesn't get it right eh? Here's a nickel kid - Get yourself a real email address. > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124335639424978&w=2 > > Bob's reply and start of the new thread: > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124335717826716&w=2 > > New and current thread: > http://marc.info/?t=12433572768&r=1&w=2 > > Fair enough? > > > > regards, > --ropers
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
>> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >>> >>> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >>> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning >>> when their email doesn't work >>> > Bob Beck wrote: >> >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK >> >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following >> information: >> >> >> Name : ___ >> >> >> Email ID: >> >> >> Password: >> >> >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. >> 2009/5/27 Gregory Edigarov : > > Pardon? I do not understand what is this for > > -- > With best regards, >Gregory Edigarov > Original thread: http://marc.info/?t=12428629293&r=1&w=2 Message that Bob replied to, starting a new thread (at least as far as Gmail is concerned): http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124335639424978&w=2 Bob's reply and start of the new thread: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124335717826716&w=2 New and current thread: http://marc.info/?t=12433572768&r=1&w=2 Fair enough? regards, --ropers
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On 27 May 2009, at 10:01, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:43:18AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:29:10AM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote: Bob Beck wrote: * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their email doesn't work IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work without interruption, please reply to this email with the following information: Name : ___ Email ID: Password: Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. Pardon? I do not understand what is this for explanation will follow once you provide the neccesary provide of ehhh s/provide/proof authentication. -Otto I seriously thought you'd done the typo deliberately to mimic the poor english typically found in such fraud emails. LoL. /Pete
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:13:26AM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > >> explanation will follow once you provide the neccesary provide of > > > > ehhh s/provide/proof > > huh? > sed: 1: "s/provide/proof": unterminated substitute in regular expression who said I was using sed? vi allows that. > > > besides, that makes for: > > >> explanation will follow once you proof the neccesary provide of that's because i had to little coffee. I'll shut up now. -Otto
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:43:18AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > >> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:29:10AM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote: >> >> > Bob Beck wrote: >> >> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >> >> >> >>> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >> >>> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their >> >>> email doesn't work >> >>> >> >> >> >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK >> >> >> >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list >> >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. >> >> >> >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work >> >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following >> >> information: >> >> >> >> >> >> Name : ___ >> >> >> >> >> >> Email ID: >> >> >> >> >> >> Password: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Pardon? I do not understand what is this for >> >> explanation will follow once you provide the neccesary provide of > > ehhh s/provide/proof huh? sed: 1: "s/provide/proof": unterminated substitute in regular expression besides, that makes for: >> explanation will follow once you proof the neccesary provide of ^ --patrick >> authentication. >> >> B B B -Otto
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:43:18AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:29:10AM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > > > Bob Beck wrote: > >> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: > >> > >>> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly > >>> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when > >>> their > >>> email doesn't work > >>> > >> > >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK > >> > >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list > >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. > >> > >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work > >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following > >> information: > >> > >> > >> Name : ___ > >> > >> > >> Email ID: > >> > >> > >> Password: > >> > >> > >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. > >> > >> > >> > > Pardon? I do not understand what is this for > > explanation will follow once you provide the neccesary provide of ehhh s/provide/proof > authentication. > > -Otto
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > Bob Beck wrote: >> >> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >> >>> >>> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >>> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when >>> their >>> email doesn't work >>> >> >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK >> >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following >> information: >> >> >> Name : ___ >> >> >> Email ID: >> >> >> Password: >> >> >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. >> >> >> > > Pardon? I do not understand what is this for it is from another thread on this mailing list. --patrick
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:29:10AM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > Bob Beck wrote: >> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >> >>> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >>> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their >>> email doesn't work >>> >> >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK >> >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. >> >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following >> information: >> >> >> Name : ___ >> >> >> Email ID: >> >> >> Password: >> >> >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. >> >> >> > Pardon? I do not understand what is this for explanation will follow once you provide the neccesary provide of authentication. -Otto
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
Bob Beck wrote: * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their email doesn't work IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work without interruption, please reply to this email with the following information: Name : ___ Email ID: Password: Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. Pardon? I do not understand what is this for -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM, J Sisson wrote: > > Check the OP's email address. Note that it doesn't end with " > openbsd.org" > > or similar. > > b...@openbsd.org doesn't end with openbsd.org? You need to work on > your regex skills. > Indeed I do. I meant "the e-mail address from the quote by the OP". -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows.
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM, J Sisson wrote: > Check the OP's email address. Note that it doesn't end with "openbsd.org" > or similar. b...@openbsd.org doesn't end with openbsd.org? You need to work on your regex skills.
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
>> > Sam Fourman Jr. >> > sfour...@gmail.com >> > rlz686 >> >> Now that's funny. >> >> kmw > > > That's not *just* funny...it makes my sides hurt. > > To others thinking about responding: > > Check the OP's email address. Note that it doesn't end with "openbsd.org" > or similar. Oh WOW I guess I did screw up twice, not only did I hit reply all by mistake, I ALSO just thought Bob Beck, Hey I know that guy he is OpenBSD's Email Guy :) I guess the Mastercard Commercial is correct, someday I did accidentally hit reply all. LOL Sam Fourman Jr.
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > 2009/5/26 Sam Fourman Jr. : > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > sfour...@gmail.com > > rlz686 > > Now that's funny. > > kmw That's not *just* funny...it makes my sides hurt. To others thinking about responding: Check the OP's email address. Note that it doesn't end with "openbsd.org" or similar. -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows.
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Bob Beck wrote: * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their email doesn't work IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work without interruption, please reply to this email with the following information: Name : ___ Email ID: Password: Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. Where is the line for my bank routing information and acount? diana
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
lmao! -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Wilcox Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:02 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK 2009/5/26 Sam Fourman Jr. : > Sam Fourman Jr. > sfour...@gmail.com > rlz686 Now that's funny. kmw -- To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, bthe guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.'
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
2009/5/26 Sam Fourman Jr. : > Sam Fourman Jr. > sfour...@gmail.com > rlz686 Now that's funny. kmw -- To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, bthe guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.'
Re: IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK
Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com rlz686 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Bob Beck wrote: > * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >> it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >> marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when their >> email doesn't work > > IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK > > We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list > memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. > > In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work > without interruption, please reply to this email with the following > information: > > > Name : ___ > > > Email ID: > > > Password: > > > Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system.
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM, STeve Andre' wrote: > On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:54:08 Bob Beck wrote: >> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: >> > it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly >> > marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when >> > their email doesn't work >> >> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK >> >> We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list >> memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. >> >> In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work >> without interruption, please reply to this email with the following >> information: >> >> >> Name : ___ >> >> >> Email ID: >> >> >> Password: >> >> >> Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. > > D+ I don't get it. > > -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com
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On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:54:08 Bob Beck wrote: > * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]: > > it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly > > marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when > > their email doesn't work > > IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WON'T WORK > > We are refreshing our openbsd mailing lists to ensure that the list > memberships correctly match our business process and security roles. > > In order to ensure your list memberships and email continue to work > without interruption, please reply to this email with the following > information: > > > Name : ___ > > > Email ID: > > > Password: > > > Thanks for helping to ensure the integrity of our email system. D+
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[OT] openbsd mailserver for e-mail marketing; best practice / advise ?
Hi all, This is rather offtopic(!), but since I'll be deploying OpenBSD for this project I thought I'd ask for advice from people that use the same system. A freshly installed 4.2 mailserver (currently Postfix) needs to be deployed as an outgoing only e-mail marketing machine. Incoming mail is limited to appointed parties only. Basically what needs to happen is that anyone within the organisation I work for can send an e-mail (w. attachment(s)) to the system and it will distribute it to a list of recipients. These recipient lists are different every time - they are coming from the local branch' sales division and are based on the criteria for the day. They send out about a 5000 to 1 mails in total weekly this way. Right now each branch uses Outlook and just BCC which clogs the office mailserver (windows) and internet connection. Which is why we want to centralize it for all the branches and make it lightweight (ie. single outgoing mail that is distributed through an external server) The scenario's I'd thought of so far are rather basic; 1) Let them add an extra attachment called 'recipientlist.txt', parse that and forward the mail to anyone in the list. 2) Queue the e-mail and go the "web GUI / upload" way for the list. 3) Some form of existing system ( I don't know of any) I have tried webbased e-mail marketing systems but they are too tedious. HTML is scary to them and WYSIWYG just never works(tm). These people just want to create the e-mail out with their Outlook software, mail it out and I take care of the rest. For security I will be using a unique e-mail address per department and limit incoming access to the box by IP address. I figure that would be good enough but I am not entirely sure. Is there anyone that has done something similar? Or does anyone has some advice on how to tackle this? I've build a couple of 'regular' mailservers on OpenBSD but never build something like this, so I am grateful for any advise / pointers. Thank you! Matt
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Re: E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote: > I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is > capable of the following: > - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) > - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) > - provide Webmail incl. the calendar > ... > ... My other question is whether you know of alternatives... I have a mild interest, but it's not really my activity. Here are three I've read about: Zimbra has gotten good mentions: http://www.zimbra.com/ Apparently the source is available: http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html Scalix is another: http://www.scalix.com/community/downloads/ So is OpenXchange: http://www.open-xchange.com/ There are a handful of others, but I can't recall them. If you try any out or decide to deploy any it'd would be very useful to hear how it went. Standards based modules can probably be put together to create the illusion of a monolith. I question the monolithic approach to such activities. Anyway, using Outlook will be problems. It doesn't work well with MS Exchange, but people have been browbeat into not saying anything about it. "People will just get used to a lower level of service." Using it in conjunction with another service will likely cause them to take it out on you and the other technology, so best to at least make plans to phase it out so that you have the option. -Lars
Re: E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote: Hi, I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is capable of the following: - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) maybe look at: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/ http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/lightning/ Along with dovecot/courier & sendmail/postfix whatever.
Re: E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 15:14 +0200, Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is > capable of the following: > - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) > - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) > - provide Webmail incl. the calendar > > One software, which looks like it can do all of that, I found is Kerio > Mail Server (http://www.kerio.com/kms_home.html). It appears to be capable > of synchronizing between the various sessions. > > My question is whether anyone of you has successfully installed this on > OpenBSD. It seems to be supported by Linux (Redhat and Suse) and MacOS. > > My other question is whether you know of alternatives. Evolution looks > very nice, but it doesn't have the webmail feature *with* the calendar. > > I am really open to suggestions. > My personal suggestion? Ask your users why, other than the fact that Outlook does it, do you need one application to handle both calendaring and email? If you can get your users to break out of that (rather idiotic, IMO) paradigm, an entire world of easier-to-support possibilities opens up for you. Just so you don't think I'm being a cocky ass, I asked that question, and was rewarded with "because I'm the president and I say so." I'm now in the process of rolling out Scalix. - Bert > Thanks, > Nick
Re: E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:14:17PM +0200, Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is > capable of the following: > - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) > - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) > - provide Webmail incl. the calendar > My other question is whether you know of alternatives. Evolution looks > very nice, but it doesn't have the webmail feature *with* the calendar. I don't know how well it will interface with Outlook and Evolution but have you looked at Horde? It's in the ports. -- Terry http://tyson.homeunix.org http://www.UnixByte.com
Re: E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:14:17PM +0200, Nikolaus Hiebaum wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is > capable of the following: > - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) > - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) > - provide Webmail incl. the calendar > > One software, which looks like it can do all of that, I found is Kerio > Mail Server (http://www.kerio.com/kms_home.html). It appears to be capable > of synchronizing between the various sessions. > > My question is whether anyone of you has successfully installed this on > OpenBSD. It seems to be supported by Linux (Redhat and Suse) and MacOS. > > My other question is whether you know of alternatives. Evolution looks > very nice, but it doesn't have the webmail feature *with* the calendar. > > I am really open to suggestions. > > Thanks, > Nick You might want to check out http://www.horde.org/groupware/. -- James Turner BSD Group Consulting http://www.bsdgroup.org
E-mail/calendar suite on OpenBSD (Kerio on OpenBSD)?
Hi, I am currently searching for an e-mail/calendar application which is capable of the following: - support clients running on Windows machines (Outlook) - support clients running on Linux/OpenBSD machines (Evolution) - provide Webmail incl. the calendar One software, which looks like it can do all of that, I found is Kerio Mail Server (http://www.kerio.com/kms_home.html). It appears to be capable of synchronizing between the various sessions. My question is whether anyone of you has successfully installed this on OpenBSD. It seems to be supported by Linux (Redhat and Suse) and MacOS. My other question is whether you know of alternatives. Evolution looks very nice, but it doesn't have the webmail feature *with* the calendar. I am really open to suggestions. Thanks, Nick
Re: Send E-mail as Different Hostname
Henning Brauer wrote: * Chris Tankersley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-16 22:29]: We're running a web server with PHP 5 and OpenBSD's Apache 1.3.29. Whenever a mail is sent from our site using mini_sendmail it is using the hostname that we gave it, which doesn't exist to the outside world. How can I have it send as another hostname, so that it sends from [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] just switch from mini_sendmail (you should do that in any case, it is a piece of shit) to femail and set myname in femail.conf. of course, this assumes that php is not explicitely setting the sender - if so, it has to be fixed there. I'll look into femail. I settled on mini_sendmail just because it was the most oft-suggested mailer to use in a chroot'd environment. As for the sender, it is being set in the headers. Depending on the form, it goes to a main e-mail address, and then to a backup stored at the ISP. Since we moved our website from their servers, they started rejecting them quoting '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the sender, even though the mail reaches our servers with the correct sender. s a quick work-around I just changed the hostname of the machine to 'www' and that seems to have cleared it up. Not the ideal solution, but at least the mails are being backed up off-site, but with femail I'll try it and see if it clears it up as well. Chris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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Gordon Stratton wrote: On 7/16/07, Chris Tankersley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We're running a web server with PHP 5 and OpenBSD's Apache 1.3.29. Whenever a mail is sent from our site using mini_sendmail it is using the hostname that we gave it, which doesn't exist to the outside world. How can I have it send as another hostname, so that it sends from [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Are you using PHP's built-in mail() function? Look at example 1099 in the PHP documentation for mail()[1]. Gordon [1] http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php Extra headers are being set. Depending on the form, it goes to a main e-mail address, and then to a backup stored at the ISP. Since we moved our website from their servers, they started rejecting them quoting '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the sender, even though the mail reaches our servers with the correct sender. As a quick work-around I just changed the hostname of the machine to 'www' and that seems to have cleared it up. Not the ideal solution, but at least the mails are being backed up off-site. Chris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Send E-mail as Different Hostname
* Chris Tankersley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-16 22:29]: > We're running a web server with PHP 5 and OpenBSD's Apache 1.3.29. > Whenever a mail is sent from our site using mini_sendmail it is using > the hostname that we gave it, which doesn't exist to the outside world. > How can I have it send as another hostname, so that it sends from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] just switch from mini_sendmail (you should do that in any case, it is a piece of shit) to femail and set myname in femail.conf. of course, this assumes that php is not explicitely setting the sender - if so, it has to be fixed there. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam
Re: Send E-mail as Different Hostname
On 7/16/07, Chris Tankersley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We're running a web server with PHP 5 and OpenBSD's Apache 1.3.29. Whenever a mail is sent from our site using mini_sendmail it is using the hostname that we gave it, which doesn't exist to the outside world. How can I have it send as another hostname, so that it sends from [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Are you using PHP's built-in mail() function? Look at example 1099 in the PHP documentation for mail()[1]. Gordon [1] http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php
Send E-mail as Different Hostname
We're running a web server with PHP 5 and OpenBSD's Apache 1.3.29. Whenever a mail is sent from our site using mini_sendmail it is using the hostname that we gave it, which doesn't exist to the outside world. How can I have it send as another hostname, so that it sends from [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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ALERT! This e-mail, in its original form, contained one or more attached files that were infected with a virus, worm, or other type of security threat. This e-mail was sent from a Road Runner IP address. As part of our continuing initiative to stop the spread of malicious viruses, Road Runner scans all outbound e-mail attachments. If a virus, worm, or other security threat is found, Road Runner cleans or deletes the infected attachments as necessary, but continues to send the original message content to the recipient. Further information on this initiative can be found at http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html. Please be advised that Road Runner does not contact the original sender of the e-mail as part of the scanning process. Road Runner recommends that if the sender is known to you, you contact them directly and advise them of their issue. If you do not know the sender, we advise you to forward this message in its entirety (including full headers) to the Road Runner Abuse Department, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message was received at Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:00:30 -0500 from openbsd.org [35.84.39.230] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - file attachment: mail.zip This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached files that were infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus or worm. They have been removed. For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, visit our Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the virus filtering information page directly at http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html.
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