Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-25 Thread Richard Toohey

On 25/10/2007, at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


thanks for the response.  I'll give that a read, and a try.

where are you getting 4.2?  the web site only shows 4.1 as being  
released.


metajunkie



4.2 - order it online (they've been REALLY good this year - took less  
than 2 weeks from order to delivery to NZ.)


http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

On 10/24/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).


Snapshots - I have not done this myself, so you'll have to RTFM  
(meant politely - like I said I have not done this myself):


http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldBinary



Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-25 Thread Joel Sing
On Thursday 25 October 2007, Richard Toohey wrote:
 On 25/10/2007, at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thanks for the response.  I'll give that a read, and a try.
 
  where are you getting 4.2?  the web site only shows 4.1 as being
  released.
 
  metajunkie

 4.2 - order it online (they've been REALLY good this year - took less
 than 2 weeks from order to delivery to NZ.)

 http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

 On 10/24/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
  you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
  4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
  NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).

 Snapshots - I have not done this myself, so you'll have to RTFM
 (meant politely - like I said I have not done this myself):

 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldBinary

You don't need to build from source - just grab a binary snapshot from a 
nearby FTP or HTTP server, rather than using the 4.1 release. eg:

ftp://ftp5.usa.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/

You can install a snapshot as you would normally install a release.
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Re: new dell install completed, but...::uhci* usb keyboard

2007-10-25 Thread metajunkie
thanks everyone.

I got into kernel mode with the /bsd -c boot

I saw in the dmsg that was residual on the failing boot screen that :

uhci1: host controller halted

I disabled uhci* while in kernel mode - and on exit from kernel mode,
the system booted without error.

However this device only has usb keyboard - and that is not working.

maybe this is fixed in the snapshots you all are talking about - I've
never worked with them - only stable.  looks like that is where my
adventure heads, unless someone knows about this uhci* thing and a way
to fix the usb.

In the mean time - I ssh'd into the system :)

(maybe I can sell this notion of no keyboard as a security feature :)


meta-junkie


On 10/25/07, Joel Sing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 25 October 2007, Richard Toohey wrote:
  On 25/10/2007, at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   thanks for the response.  I'll give that a read, and a try.
  
   where are you getting 4.2?  the web site only shows 4.1 as being
   released.
  
   metajunkie
 
  4.2 - order it online (they've been REALLY good this year - took less
  than 2 weeks from order to delivery to NZ.)
 
  http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html
 
  On 10/24/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
   you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
   4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
   NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).
 
  Snapshots - I have not done this myself, so you'll have to RTFM
  (meant politely - like I said I have not done this myself):
 
  http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldBinary

 You don't need to build from source - just grab a binary snapshot from a
 nearby FTP or HTTP server, rather than using the 4.1 release. eg:

 ftp://ftp5.usa.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/

 You can install a snapshot as you would normally install a release.
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 = Joel Sing | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0419 577 603 =
 

 Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
  - Terry Pratchett, Hogfather



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new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-24 Thread metajunkie
all,

I'm happy to read whatever I need to, in order to get this system
running.  I come before this list humbly.  Please don't flame my ass
with RTFMs :)

I have a new Dell Optiplex 745 with an Intel Core 2 Duo.

this system completed the install.  Now on boot it hangs after:
wskbd1:  connecting to wsdisplay0

the only issue I had during install was that the on-board nic would
not grab a dhcp address - but the pci nic did.

how can I troubleshoot this further?  I followed the FAQ for the
install - and I've looked at the common issues after install.

years ago I had an issue with a piece of hardware that I had to
exclude.  but I don't recall how I got into that particular sub
system to deactivate it.  Is there something I can do at the boot
prompt?

Humbly yours,

Metajunkie

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Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-24 Thread Nick Holland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all,
 
 I'm happy to read whatever I need to, in order to get this system
 running.  I come before this list humbly.  Please don't flame my ass
 with RTFMs :)
 
 I have a new Dell Optiplex 745 with an Intel Core 2 Duo.
 
 this system completed the install.  Now on boot it hangs after:
 wskbd1:  connecting to wsdisplay0
 
 the only issue I had during install was that the on-board nic would
 not grab a dhcp address - but the pci nic did.
 
 how can I troubleshoot this further?  I followed the FAQ for the
 install - and I've looked at the common issues after install.
 
 years ago I had an issue with a piece of hardware that I had to
 exclude.  but I don't recall how I got into that particular sub
 system to deactivate it.  Is there something I can do at the boot
 prompt?
 
 Humbly yours,
 
 Metajunkie
 

First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).

If that doesn't, the good news is since it installed with the bsd.rd
kernel but won't run GENERIC, it is probably just a matter of turning
the right device driver off.  GENERIC has more in it than bsd.rd does.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BootConfig  (see the next two
sections as well, which are also appropriate for you)

I don't recall if I ever installed OpenBSD on a 745.  Certainly did
a fair amount with a 620 (which worked fine).

Nick.



Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:14PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a new Dell Optiplex 745 with an Intel Core 2 Duo.
  
  this system completed the install.  Now on boot it hangs after:
  wskbd1:  connecting to wsdisplay0
  
  the only issue I had during install was that the on-board nic would
  not grab a dhcp address - but the pci nic did.
  
  how can I troubleshoot this further?  I followed the FAQ for the
  install - and I've looked at the common issues after install.
  
  years ago I had an issue with a piece of hardware that I had to
  exclude.  but I don't recall how I got into that particular sub
  system to deactivate it.  Is there something I can do at the boot
  prompt?
 
 First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
 you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
 4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
 NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).
 
 If that doesn't, the good news is since it installed with the bsd.rd
 kernel but won't run GENERIC, it is probably just a matter of turning
 the right device driver off.  GENERIC has more in it than bsd.rd does.

If you boot the installer, you can read the dmesg from the bsd.rd.  At
least then you'll know what _not_ to turn off to get the system to boot.

 
 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BootConfig  (see the next two
 sections as well, which are also appropriate for you)

Doug.



Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-24 Thread metajunkie
thanks for the response.  I'll give that a read, and a try.

where are you getting 4.2?  the web site only shows 4.1 as being released.

metajunkie

On 10/24/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  all,
 
  I'm happy to read whatever I need to, in order to get this system
  running.  I come before this list humbly.  Please don't flame my ass
  with RTFMs :)
 
  I have a new Dell Optiplex 745 with an Intel Core 2 Duo.
 
  this system completed the install.  Now on boot it hangs after:
  wskbd1:  connecting to wsdisplay0
 
  the only issue I had during install was that the on-board nic would
  not grab a dhcp address - but the pci nic did.
 
  how can I troubleshoot this further?  I followed the FAQ for the
  install - and I've looked at the common issues after install.
 
  years ago I had an issue with a piece of hardware that I had to
  exclude.  but I don't recall how I got into that particular sub
  system to deactivate it.  Is there something I can do at the boot
  prompt?
 
  Humbly yours,
 
  Metajunkie
 

 First, make sure you are trying a snapshot, not 4.1 or older.  If
 you are using 4.2, still try a snapshot, a lot has happened since
 4.2 already.  If that fixes your problem, you are done.  (the onboard
 NIC problem is hinting to me that you are using an older version).

 If that doesn't, the good news is since it installed with the bsd.rd
 kernel but won't run GENERIC, it is probably just a matter of turning
 the right device driver off.  GENERIC has more in it than bsd.rd does.

 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BootConfig  (see the next two
 sections as well, which are also appropriate for you)

 I don't recall if I ever installed OpenBSD on a 745.  Certainly did
 a fair amount with a 620 (which worked fine).

 Nick.



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