Re: ***SPAM*** Re: nmap on routed ip4 networks, openbsd/pf or package/port issue?

2018-08-02 Thread Henrik Engmark
On 08-01 15:08, Henrik Engmark wrote:
>> So I set up a new 6.3 with the sole purpose of nmapping, since my older 
>> OpenBSDs is coremapping on me with nmap.
>>[]
>> On to the problem, I scan my local LAN with the following:
>> nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em0 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
>>/tmp/nmapout 192.168.1.0/24  This works fine, every time i try. Takes about 
>>an hour. However, when I try it on a remote routed net like so:
>> nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em1 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
>>/tmp/nmapout 10.20.30.192/26
>> 
>> nmap stops doing anything after a minute or so, it goes to 0% cpu and stays 
>> there. I waited at least 24 hours without any sign of life.
>> top tells me nmap is WAIT/bpf after those first couple of minutes. I am not 
>> sure what that means exactly, but I figured maybe something with pf, so I 
>> disabled pf alltogether and tried again, with the same result.

>
>I am curious what you learn as I have seen similar behavior.  I've been 
>nmapping a printer on my local network, trying different things, and nmap 
>freezes for me after a short or long time.  
>
>Strangely though, it seems to ~ "unfreeze" if I start another nmap instance, 
>probing the same address, in a separate terminal window.  
>Sometimes I have to kill and restart that other instance as it freezes too, 
>but this workaround has allowed me to continue at least.
>
>I am on 6.3 stable with latest syspatch.
>

Indeed starting several nmap sessions against the same subnet seems to make 
things a lot better.
They somehow seem to keep eachother alive.
This might just be me who is too inexperienced with tweaking nmap, but I don't 
run in to this issue on other platforms.
Does anyone know where best to pursue this problem? The ports list, the 
maintainer directly or not at all perhaps?



Re: nmap on routed ip4 networks, openbsd/pf or package/port issue?

2018-08-01 Thread Luke A. Call
On 08-01 10:54, Luke A. Call wrote:
> On 08-01 15:08, Henrik Engmark wrote:
> > So I set up a new 6.3 with the sole purpose of nmapping, since my older 
> > OpenBSDs is coremapping on me with nmap.
> >[] 
> > On to the problem, I scan my local LAN with the following:
> > nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em0 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
> > /tmp/nmapout 192.168.1.0/24
> > This works fine, every time i try. Takes about an hour. However, when I try 
> > it on a remote routed net like so:
> > nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em1 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
> > /tmp/nmapout 10.20.30.192/26
> > 
> > nmap stops doing anything after a minute or so, it goes to 0% cpu and stays 
> > there. I waited at least 24 hours without any sign of life.
> > top tells me nmap is WAIT/bpf after those first couple of minutes. I am not 
> > sure what that means exactly, but I figured maybe something with pf, so I 
> > disabled pf alltogether and tried again, with the same result.
> 
> I am curious what you learn as I have seen similar behavior.  I've been
> nmapping a printer on my local network, trying different things, and nmap
> freezes for me after a short or long time.  
> 
> Strangely though, it seems to ~ "unfreeze" if I start another nmap 
> instance, probing the same address, in a separate terminal window.  
> Sometimes I have to kill and restart that other instance as it 
> freezes too, but this workaround has allowed me to continue at least.
> 
> I am on 6.3 stable with latest syspatch.

Also curiously, the 2nd nmap running, like the first instance it
is intended to "unfreeze", also uses 90+% of a CPU (until it also
freezes), even though I passed the "-T2" parameter to slow it down.



Re: nmap on routed ip4 networks, openbsd/pf or package/port issue?

2018-08-01 Thread Luke A. Call
On 08-01 15:08, Henrik Engmark wrote:
> So I set up a new 6.3 with the sole purpose of nmapping, since my older 
> OpenBSDs is coremapping on me with nmap.
>[] 
> On to the problem, I scan my local LAN with the following:
> nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em0 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
> /tmp/nmapout 192.168.1.0/24
> This works fine, every time i try. Takes about an hour. However, when I try 
> it on a remote routed net like so:
> nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em1 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA 
> /tmp/nmapout 10.20.30.192/26
> 
> nmap stops doing anything after a minute or so, it goes to 0% cpu and stays 
> there. I waited at least 24 hours without any sign of life.
> top tells me nmap is WAIT/bpf after those first couple of minutes. I am not 
> sure what that means exactly, but I figured maybe something with pf, so I 
> disabled pf alltogether and tried again, with the same result.


I am curious what you learn as I have seen similar behavior.  I've been
nmapping a printer on my local network, trying different things, and nmap
freezes for me after a short or long time.  

Strangely though, it seems to ~ "unfreeze" if I start another nmap 
instance, probing the same address, in a separate terminal window.  
Sometimes I have to kill and restart that other instance as it 
freezes too, but this workaround has allowed me to continue at least.

I am on 6.3 stable with latest syspatch.



nmap on routed ip4 networks, openbsd/pf or package/port issue?

2018-08-01 Thread Henrik Engmark
Hi.

I very rarely post on these lists, so please go easy on me.
Not sure on what list to post, since I don't know what causes the issue, so I 
thought I would start here and maybe get directed elsewhere.

So I set up a new 6.3 with the sole purpose of nmapping, since my older 
OpenBSDs is coremapping on me with nmap.
A very clean setup; 2 interfaces:
em0: 192.168.1.200/24
em1: 10.10.10.200/26
mygate: 192.168.1.1
route: 10/8 -> 10.10.10.193
resolv.conf: 8.8.8.8

pf.conf:
set skip on lo
block return
pass

sysctl is default out of the box except for machdep.allowaperture=2

nmap is from 6.3 packages: nmap-7.60p0

Can ping and communicate everywhere essential, so network on both ifs seems 
fine.

On to the problem, I scan my local LAN with the following:
nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em0 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA /tmp/nmapout 
192.168.1.0/24

This works fine, every time i try. Takes about an hour. However, when I try it 
on a remote routed net like so:
nmap -Pn -A -v -v --send-eth -e em1 -stylesheet somestylesheet -oA /tmp/nmapout 
10.20.30.192/26

nmap stops doing anything after a minute or so, it goes to 0% cpu and stays 
there. I waited at least 24 hours without any sign of life.
top tells me nmap is WAIT/bpf after those first couple of minutes. I am not 
sure what that means exactly, but I figured maybe something with pf, so I 
disabled pf alltogether and tried again, with the same result.
For some reason, I also tried it again against 10.20.30.193-254, but no luck. 
Still stops after a minute or two and just does nothing.
Worth mentioning is it starts off fine, giving me loads of information about 
open ports and completed SYN stealth scans against hosts.

I am well aware that this might not be perfectly suited for misc, but I recall 
having several issues in the past with the combination OpenBSD/pf/nmap, so I 
thought I would give it a shot here first.

"Hardware" under this OpenBSD is VMWare Workstation Pro 14.1 on Windows 10, 
where the 2 vm-nics are bridged to 2 VLAN configured virtual Intel (I219-LM) 
NICs on my Windows host. I don't think that is what's causing the issue I am 
having, but thought I should mention it.

"dmesg" output is at the bottom.

Best Regards,
Henrik Engmark
My food poops of your food

### dmesg ###

OpenBSD 6.3 (GENERIC.MP) #107: Sat Mar 24 14:21:59 MDT 2018
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 17162960896 (16367MB)
avail mem = 16635740160 (15865MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xe0010 (248 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version "6.00" date 05/19/2017
bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP BOOT APIC MCFG SRAT HPET WAET
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S3) USB_(S1) P2P0(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S8F0(S3) 
S16F(S3) S17F(S3) S18F(S3) S22F(S3) S23F(S3) S24F(S3) S25F(S3) PE40(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE50(S3) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6770HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592.13 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,SSSE3,FMA3,CX16,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,HV,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
acpitimer0: recalibrated TSC frequency 2591813105 Hz
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 65MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6770HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2591.88 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,SSSE3,FMA3,CX16,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,HV,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6770HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2591.94 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,SSSE3,FMA3,CX16,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,HV,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,ARAT,MELTDOWN
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6770HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2591.88 MHz
cpu3: