Re: open bsd router

2013-10-05 Thread Loïc BLOT
Thanks for your replies :)
--
Best regards,
Loïc BLOT,
UNIX systems, security and network engineer
http://www.unix-experience.fr



Le vendredi 04 octobre 2013 à 22:27 -0700, Sean Kamath a écrit :
 On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Comète com...@daknet.org wrote:

  Yes, we use a lot of ALIX 2D13 as routers on many sites since 2 or 3 years
(nearly 20 ALIX boxes now). It works like a charm with a good compact flash
card, no problem at all ! And i've recently discovered they even included a
watchdog ;)
 
  Morgan

 Ditto

 I got all of mine with the cool red case. ;-)  All 2d13.

 The P/S can have a wide voltage range, too.  I got my CF cards from PC
Engines, they've all been great.

 Sean

  Le 04/10/2013 23:45, Loïc BLOT a écrit :
  Hello,
  I also looked at ALIX board since a long time.
  Is there anybody using Alix 2d13 with OpenBSD ?
  Thanks in advance.
  --
  Best regards,
  Loïc BLOT,
  UNIX systems, security and network engineer
  http://www.unix-experience.fr
  Le vendredi 04 octobre 2013 à 15:05 +0200, Jan Stary a écrit :
  On Oct 04 07:16:57, inform...@gmx.net wrote:
   http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
   No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their
   products :-)
  Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
  when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
  I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
  is completely OK - it was my power supply
  that was faulty (which I could then confirm).
  Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
  that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
  the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
  which I didn't.
  The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
  and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
  Not to mention the chocolate.
  In short, their customer service
  is as good as the boards.
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  which had a name of signature.asc]

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Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Bruno Flueckiger

On 03.10.2013 23:37, alexey.kurin...@gmail.com wrote:


My favorite:
http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of
misc@openbsd.org list? I glad to read members IMHO about used boards.



I'm using different boards from PC Engines for my servers at home. E. g. 
my firewall is a WRAP board from PC Engines. This is the predecessor of 
their ALIX board. It's almost seven years old and still working 24/7. 
Once in that time I had to replace the CF card because it showed some 
write errors. Else the only maintenance I've done on the board is to 
upgrade to the latest release of OpenBSD every six months.


No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their products 
:-)


Regards,
Bruno



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread alexey.kurin...@gmail.com
Thanks for replies. Thanks for correction about ALIX not arm , esturday 
I missing that. My tired eyes see AMD like ARM - first leter match :)

ALIX low power consuming, fanless and long life - good features.

I still doubt, but lowest price not associated with long life. For me - 
good things price always higer then lowest, but not to high at all.


Maybe ALIX is what I need.

Many many thanks for replies.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Paco Esteban

A 03.10.2013 23:37, alexey.kurin...@gmail.com escrigué:

Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for installing
open bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,
etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's
listed there

http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying 
=1k boards


My favorite:
http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of
misc@openbsd.org list? I glad to read members IMHO about used boards.

Sorry for ugly english.


+1 to Alix devices.

alix2d3 + dnma92 802.11 a/b/g/n miniPCI radio + OpenBSD = Amazing soho 
router !


You'll only need software in base, by the way !

Cheers,

--
Paco Esteban.
GnuPG key: 0x0E1192A4



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Jan Stary
On Oct 04 00:37:41, alexey.kurin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for
 installing open bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,
 etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
 Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's
 listed there 
 http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
 Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying
 =1k boards
 
 My favorite:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

I can recommend the ALIX boards - they work just fine for me
as routers and dns/mail/pgsql/www servers.

AFAIK there are currently no plans to port OpenBSD to Raspberry,
as the hardware is not really documented.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Jan Stary
On Oct 04 07:16:57, inform...@gmx.net wrote:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
 No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their
 products :-)

Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
is completely OK - it was my power supply
that was faulty (which I could then confirm).

Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
which I didn't.

The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
Not to mention the chocolate.

In short, their customer service
is as good as the boards.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Jan Stary h...@stare.cz writes:

 AFAIK there are currently no plans to port OpenBSD to Raspberry,
 as the hardware is not really documented.

Judging by some recent threads here (findable via the obvious
keywords), not really documented is something of an
understatement. And there is real info here and there in these
threads, I promise.

- P

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Manolis Tzanidakis
On Fri (04/10/13), alexey.kurin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of
 misc@openbsd.org list? I glad to read members IMHO about used
 boards.

I can also highly recommend ALIX boards. I've installed a few 2d3 and
2d13 in various small to medium sized businesses over the years, and
some of these boards even outlived the businesses..

My advice is to get a model with built-in battery-powered real-time
clock (RTC), like 2d13. And avoid cheap flash cards.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread alexey.kurin...@gmail.com

I also decide to buy 2d13 because it have the battery.

On 10/04/13 17:48, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote:

On Fri (04/10/13), alexey.kurin...@gmail.com wrote:


Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of
misc@openbsd.org list? I glad to read members IMHO about used
boards.


I can also highly recommend ALIX boards. I've installed a few 2d3 and
2d13 in various small to medium sized businesses over the years, and
some of these boards even outlived the businesses..

My advice is to get a model with built-in battery-powered real-time
clock (RTC), like 2d13. And avoid cheap flash cards.




Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Bruno Flueckiger

On 04.10.2013 15:05, Jan Stary wrote:


Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
is completely OK - it was my power supply
that was faulty (which I could then confirm).

Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
which I didn't.

The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
Not to mention the chocolate.

In short, their customer service
is as good as the boards.


Reading this I almost regret that I never had any
trouble with the boards so far ;-) This is true
customer service.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello,
I also looked at ALIX board since a long time.
Is there anybody using Alix 2d13 with OpenBSD ?

Thanks in advance.
--
Best regards,
Loïc BLOT,
UNIX systems, security and network engineer
http://www.unix-experience.fr



Le vendredi 04 octobre 2013 à 15:05 +0200, Jan Stary a écrit :
 On Oct 04 07:16:57, inform...@gmx.net wrote:
  http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
  No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their
  products :-)

 Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
 when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
 I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
 is completely OK - it was my power supply
 that was faulty (which I could then confirm).

 Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
 that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
 the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
 which I didn't.

 The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
 and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
 Not to mention the chocolate.

 In short, their customer service
 is as good as the boards.

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a name of signature.asc]



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Comète
Yes, we use a lot of ALIX 2D13 as routers on many sites since 2 or 3 
years (nearly 20 ALIX boxes now). It works like a charm with a good 
compact flash card, no problem at all ! And i've recently discovered 
they even included a watchdog ;)


Morgan

Le 04/10/2013 23:45, Loïc BLOT a écrit :

Hello,
I also looked at ALIX board since a long time.
Is there anybody using Alix 2d13 with OpenBSD ?

Thanks in advance.
--
Best regards,
Loïc BLOT,
UNIX systems, security and network engineer
http://www.unix-experience.fr



Le vendredi 04 octobre 2013 à 15:05 +0200, Jan Stary a écrit :
On Oct 04 07:16:57, inform...@gmx.net wrote:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
 No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their
 products :-)

Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
is completely OK - it was my power supply
that was faulty (which I could then confirm).

Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
which I didn't.

The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
Not to mention the chocolate.

In short, their customer service
is as good as the boards.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature
which had a name of signature.asc]




Re: open bsd router

2013-10-04 Thread Sean Kamath
On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Comète com...@daknet.org wrote:

 Yes, we use a lot of ALIX 2D13 as routers on many sites since 2 or 3 years 
 (nearly 20 ALIX boxes now). It works like a charm with a good compact flash 
 card, no problem at all ! And i've recently discovered they even included a 
 watchdog ;)
 
 Morgan

Ditto

I got all of mine with the cool red case. ;-)  All 2d13.

The P/S can have a wide voltage range, too.  I got my CF cards from PC Engines, 
they've all been great.

Sean

 Le 04/10/2013 23:45, Loïc BLOT a écrit :
 Hello,
 I also looked at ALIX board since a long time.
 Is there anybody using Alix 2d13 with OpenBSD ?
 Thanks in advance.
 --
 Best regards,
 Loïc BLOT,
 UNIX systems, security and network engineer
 http://www.unix-experience.fr
 Le vendredi 04 octobre 2013 à 15:05 +0200, Jan Stary a écrit :
 On Oct 04 07:16:57, inform...@gmx.net wrote:
  http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
  No, I'm not working for PC Engines. But I'm a huge fan of their
  products :-)
 Just to praise PC Engines a little bit more:
 when my ALIX.1C stopped working for some reason,
 I sent it to PC Engines, who found that the board
 is completely OK - it was my power supply
 that was faulty (which I could then confirm).
 Before sending it back, they kindly suggested
 that ALIX.1E is a newer model that replaces
 the ALIX.1C, so if I don't object ...
 which I didn't.
 The shipping didn't even cost me anything,
 and they just replaced my old 1C with a new 1E.
 Not to mention the chocolate.
 In short, their customer service
 is as good as the boards.
 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature
 which had a name of signature.asc]



open bsd router

2013-10-03 Thread alexey.kurin...@gmail.com
Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for installing 
open bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,

etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's 
listed there 
http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying 
=1k boards


My favorite:
http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of 
misc@openbsd.org list? I glad to read members IMHO about used boards.


Sorry for ugly english.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Cappuccio
alexey.kurin...@gmail.com [alexey.kurin...@gmail.com] wrote:
 Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for
 installing open bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,
 etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
 Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's
 listed there 
 http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
 Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying
 =1k boards
 
 My favorite:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
 

PC Engines works fine with OpenBSD

Raspberry Pi, not at all



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-03 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
It's not arm but... within 100W there are several sparc64 machines with
much more power and possibilities.

For instance a sun fire 120 1U blade will manage up to 100Mbit/s link
without trouble :))) only problem could be noise if ur project is at home
Il 03/ott/2013 23:38 alexey.kurin...@gmail.com alexey.kurin...@gmail.com
ha scritto:

 Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for installing open
 bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,
 etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
 Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's listed
 there http://www.element14.com/**community/community/knode/**
 single-board_computers/blog?**start=0http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
 Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying =1k
 boards

 My favorite:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/**product.htmhttp://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Raspberry_Pihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

 Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of 
 misc@openbsd.orglist? I glad to read members IMHO about used boards.

 Sorry for ugly english.



Re: open bsd router

2013-10-03 Thread Patrick Wildt
Hey,

The PC Engines Alix boards are working quite well.

If you're looking for ARM machines, you'd rather have a look at 
http://cubox-i.com or http://utilite-computer.com .
Note that the second Gigabit Ethernet in the Utilite is connected via PCI-e and 
will need to be worked on.

\Patrick

Am 03.10.2013 um 23:37 schrieb alexey.kurin...@gmail.com:

 Hi. I want to buy some single board (arm cpu) computer for installing open 
 bsd and run services NAT, vpn, webserver,
 etc... Primary experiments for work and fun.
 Hours of googling and reading. I found many deviceses, many of it's listed 
 there 
 http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog?start=0
 Exist good industrial boards, but low price start for it when buying =1k 
 boards
 
 My favorite:
 http://www.pcengines.ch/product.htm
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
 
 Question is - what boards succesfully used by members of misc@openbsd.org 
 list? I glad to read members IMHO about used boards.
 
 Sorry for ugly english.