Re: openbsd router hardware
Joerg Zinke wrote I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: [[...]] - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) USB-to-serial converters are widely available, cheap, and work fine. I bought one for UK Pounds 12.45 from http://www.usbnow.co.uk/p47/USB_2.0_to_RS232_Adaptor_+_1M_Cable/product_info.html talk to the serial port. The blather on that web site says Uses the highly regarded FTDI Chipset, and indeed uftdi(4) supports it just fine on my laptop (which has USB but no serial ports). I use tip(1) to talk to the serial port. The only gotcha to beware of when buying these things is that there seem to be even cheaper USB-to-serial converters around which are pure software, using bit twiddling to wiggle the serial-port lines. These come with Windoze drivers, and aren't going to work on OpenBSD. The way to spot them is that they say works with Windoze XXX, and don't mention macs or linux systems. ciao, -- -- Jonathan Thornburg -- remove -animal to reply [EMAIL PROTECTED] School of Mathematics, U of Southampton, England Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. -- quote by Freire / poster by Oxfam
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: Are you sure you know what you're talking about? VIA works great. I have read nothing but good things about VIA cpu's from the developers on this list. Perhaps you got a bad board in your past?
Re: openbsd router hardware
Joe wrote: On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: Are you sure you know what you're talking about? VIA works great. I have read nothing but good things about VIA cpu's from the developers on this list. Perhaps you got a bad board in your past? I have a thin client with an ECS motherboard and VIA C3 Samuel -- the earlier version of the CPU -- and OpenBSD 4.2 runs great on it.
Re: openbsd router hardware
Joe wrote: On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, snip Are you sure you know what you're talking about? VIA works great. I have read nothing but good things about VIA cpu's from the developers on this list. Perhaps you got a bad board in your past? I have a thin client with an ECS motherboard and VIA C3 Samuel -- the earlier version of the CPU -- and OpenBSD 4.2 runs great on it. I second that, I have a VIA C7 running running 4.2, and works fine. Jay
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 09:55 -0800, Joe wrote: Perhaps you got a bad board in your past? I've had 10 years of bad VIA chipsets (pciide(4), etc.) Anyone who has been on the lists for a few years knows the same old story. Results 1-10 of about 3,170 for bsd VIA ATA dma error ~BAS
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:32:33 -0500 Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=470 http://www.nexcom.com/product/productshow.jsp?iid=11pid=919 http://www.advantech.com/products/Tabletop-Intel-Pentium-MProcessor-based-Platformwith-4-PCIe-LAN-Ports-MINIPCI-Expansion-Onboard/mod_1-2JKJKY.aspx http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Networking% 20applicance/VPN-V-Series/Firewall_eden_m9923.html http://www.arinfotek.com/product/product.asp?idx=2002pid=11 Thanks for all the links, I already have this box up and running: http://www.omtec.de/200/cgi-bin/artikel/121/ with a 80GB HDD (24/7) and an additionally built-in: ral0 at pci1 dev 6 function 0 Ralink RT2561 rev 0x00: irq 11, address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527 And I ordered this: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=42 together with this: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=2#epiasn to build a NAS based on an Areca Hardware-Raid Controller (SATA-II). This will be my first VIA Board, will see how it works... Cheers, Joerg
Re: openbsd router hardware
Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises For the sake of completeness, let's add PC-Engines to the list. The ALIX boards probably come close to what is needed here, so does the Soekris net5501. Bot are small (the ALIX even smaller), have at least 3 LAN Ifs, fanless and USB 2.0.
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 09:04 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: This will be my first VIA Board, will see how it works... That's great news. I run some VIA -- not at all bad. But they've still got a long way to go before they re-earn the community's trust. A decade of problems doesn't just go away overnight. ~BAS
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=470 http://www.nexcom.com/product/productshow.jsp?iid=11pid=919 http://www.advantech.com/products/Tabletop-Intel-Pentium-MProcessor-based-Platformwith-4-PCIe-LAN-Ports-MINIPCI-Expansion-Onboard/mod_1-2JKJKY.aspx http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Networking% 20applicance/VPN-V-Series/Firewall_eden_m9923.html http://www.arinfotek.com/product/product.asp?idx=2002pid=11 ~BAS - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.
Re: openbsd router hardware
I beg your pardon, but I have been running a VIA based mini-itx box for over a year now, and except for some initial case fan problems, it is ROCK FCSKING SOLID. I have the following board Migrus C787-1.5G D3N-P I also have another system with the same board minus the ethernet daughter card, it also had crappy case fans which I replaced, and it has been solid for over a year as well. Check out www.caseoutlet.com. I like these systems... Jay On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - ARInfotek - Nexcom - Advantech - Acrosser - Win Enterprises I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=470 http://www.nexcom.com/product/productshow.jsp?iid=11pid=919 http://www.advantech.com/products/Tabletop-Intel-Pentium-MProcessor-based-Platformwith-4-PCIe-LAN-Ports-MINIPCI-Expansion-Onboard/mod_1-2JKJKY.aspx http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Networking% 20applicance/VPN-V-Series/Firewall_eden_m9923.html http://www.arinfotek.com/product/product.asp?idx=2002pid=11 ~BAS - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.
Re: openbsd router hardware
It's also rather difficult to find non-x86-based boards. I was also reading about these ARM-based units, but haven't ordered samples: http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/prod_SBC.htm FWIW #1 - the port of NetBSD to this ARM platform has already had some cursory looks from a couple of developers. It wasn't given a raving review. FWIW #2 - I have two of the x86 sister devices (TS-5400) for a proof-of-concept project. They run OpenBSD fine, but some small hacks for A20 and keyboard controller are required in the boot code in order to get the devices going. Bridged throughput topped out about 5Mbit/sec between the two on-board dc devices. For a -40C rated device, they are reasonably cheap. Whether or not I can successfully get (or, really, want to get) PPP working over RS-485 over control cable is another question entirely... --J General Software 80486 Embedded BIOS (tm) Version 4.3 (C) 2000 General Software, Inc.ware, Inc. 80486-4.3-6E65-6A0E.16 +--+ | System BIOS Configuration, (C) 2000 General Software, Inc. | +---+--+ | System CPU : 80486 | Low Memory : 633KB | | Coprocessor : Enabled| Extended Memory : 63MB | | Floppy 0 Type: Not installed | Serial Ports 1-2 : 03F8 02F8 | | Floppy 1 Type: Not installed | Serial Ports 3-4 : | | Ide 0 Type : 3 | Parallel Ports : | | Ide 1 Type : 0 | ROM Shadowing: Enabled | | Embedded BIOS Date : 10/25/04 | Manufacturing Mode : 02F8 / 38.4K | +---+--+ Using drive 0, partition 3. Loading... probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[633K 63M a20=on] disk: hd0+ OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01 switching console to com0 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2-current (RAMDISK_CD) #505: Tue Oct 23 13:44:50 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: AMD Am486DX4 W/B or Am5x86 W/B 150 (AuthenticAMD 486-class) cpu0: FPU real mem = 66674688 (63MB) avail mem = 57425920 (54MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/25/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xe7200 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xe7270/0x1000 pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 4 Interrupt Routing table entries pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11 pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 AMD ElanSC520 PCI rev 0x00 dc0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Davicom DM9102 rev 0x40: irq 11, address 00:d0:69:12:44:10 amphy0 at dc0 phy 1: DM9102 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 dc1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Davicom DM9102 rev 0x40: irq 10, address 00:d0:69:b2:44:10 amphy1 at dc1 phy 1: DM9102 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 kbc: cmd word write error wdc0 at isa0 port 0x1f0/8 irq 14 wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: SanDisk SDCFB-32 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 30MB, 62720 sectors wd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom0: console pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns8250, no fifo pcic1 at isa0 port 0x3e2/2 iomem 0xd4000/16384 pcic1: irq 9, polling enabled biomask f1c7 netmask fdc7 ttymask ffc7 rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on rd0a swap on rd0b dump on rd0b erase ^?, werase ^W, kill ^U, intr ^C, status ^T (I)nstall, (U)pgrade or (S)hell?
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:29:49PM +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) If that is the only time you'll use vga, it may open up lots of non-VGA board options if you get any old cheap/free box to use as a serial terminal. I have an old 486 that runs OBSD very well. Or just get a USB/serial dongle and connect it to another box. Doug.
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While not quite meeting your requirements, I don't think you can beat the value of a Netra T1. I got two 500Mhz 512MB 64-bit Sparc boxes off eBay for $50 each. They come with two 100 Mbs ports, to which I added Sun Quad Fast Ethernet 4-port pci adapter for $12 each off eBay. While having a fan, it is relatively quite - the whole box runs at 20 watts. So, for about ~$220 (including shipping), I have two CARPed 6-port PF boxes. As a bonus, I feel that the Netra T1s using a Sparc processor is safer - as most exploits target x86... Cheers, Kent Joerg Zinke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg
Re: openbsd router hardware
Lars Nood??n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also rather difficult to find non-x86-based boards. I was also reading about these ARM-based units, but haven't ordered samples: http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/prod_SBC.htm Actually, the wireless guys have been pushing a variety of MIPS, and ARM/ Xscale based boards for some time now. They are in mass production and the MIPS ones are fairly cheap targets for OpenBSD. The Xscale stuff tends to be a lot more expensive than the 433/500MHz PC engines ALIX (which is around $120USD) so they may not meet the price/performance mark. The main manufacturers that I am aware of are Gateworks (Avila), Deliberant, and Microtik (Routerboard) See: Gateworks (Xscale): http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=60products_id=435 http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=60products_id=383 Deliberant (MIPS): http://www.deliberant.com/estore/web/pc-1092-1-dlb100-pcba-w-wili-s-pre-loaded.aspx Routerboard (MIPS): http://www.routerboard.com/rb100.html -- You were about to change the channel when God healed you -- Benny Hinn
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:31 + Sevan / Venture37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - fanless - as small as possible - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? mini-itx looks to be your best option thats what I think now too. anyway, I would like to say thanks to all who replied on this thread. Regards, Joerg
openbsd router hardware
Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg
Re: openbsd router hardware
- fanless - as small as possible - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg mini-itx looks to be your best option, though I'd say go on ebay get yourself a usbrs232 adapter get a soekris board. Sevan / Venture37 _ Fancy some celeb spotting? https://www.celebmashup.com
Re: openbsd router hardware
If small form factor, *LOWEST* power factor (i.e. fanless) and accelerated crypto are of any importance, consider http://www.logicsupply.com/ Specifically, the VIA C7 (or older C3) motherboard based boxes. (amd are worthy too, but at higher power factors and sans crypto acceleration.) Go http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/ and download the pdf catalogue for available mb's and their features -- slots, lan ports, etc. -Original Message- From: Joerg Zinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: openbsd router hardware Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:29:49 +0100 Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.13; i386-unknown-openbsd4.2) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? Any hints? Regards, Joerg
Re: openbsd router hardware
Joerg Zinke wrote: I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, ... I chose Soekris and have been playing with two net4801 (old model) units on and off lately. But looking at the specs for the (newer) net5501, it seems you could simply add what's missing: http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm - fanless - as small as possible The 4801 is not too bad, with 5 ethernet ports and 1 external USB port, it is bit larger than the size of a VHS cassette. - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) The base system has 3 ethernet ports. I chose one with an additional 2. There are two slots where you could add a WLAN device: # Mini-PCI type III socket. # PCI Slot, right angle 3.3V signaling only, dual PCI slot option - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5) You can plug in whatever will fit in the case: # UltraDMA-100 interface with 44 pins connector for 2.5 Hard Drive # Serial ATA 1.0 interface for Hard Drive, with +5V and +12V power header - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do the installation) - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to work fine on openbsd) I have heard that there are serial-USB cables so that you do not need a serial port on your other machine. So if the vga and lcd requirements are the result of the serial port question, then maybe the new cable can solve the problem. Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? A lot of openbsd-capable single board computers get mentioned at Linux Devices: http://linuxdevices.com/ Though it's often difficult to find the actual product spec sheet and you'll have to search a bit. Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and assembly them on my own? ... It's also rather difficult to find non-x86-based boards. I was also reading about these ARM-based units, but haven't ordered samples: http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/prod_SBC.htm -Lars
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scott wrote: If small form factor, *LOWEST* power factor (i.e. fanless) and accelerated crypto are of any importance, consider http://www.logicsupply.com/ Those are interesting, but the prices approach those of a macmini. -Lars
Re: openbsd router hardware
On Dec 24, 2007 8:45 AM, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott wrote: If small form factor, *LOWEST* power factor (i.e. fanless) and accelerated crypto are of any importance, consider http://www.logicsupply.com/ Those are interesting, but the prices approach those of a macmini. Don't know why via c7 boards are so expensive. But the recent walmart PC is quite cheap, only $60: http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/08/via-offers-a-cheapo-gpc-dev-kit-motherboar d/ -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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I know You can source the mb's/cpu elsewhere. When I did my C7, I used the mb in a small but-otherwise-regular atx chassis and power supply. If the C7-based solutions appeal, then go google around for best way to buy. /S -Original Message- From: Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joerg Zinke [EMAIL PROTECTED], misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: openbsd router hardware Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:45:09 +0200 Mailer: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] scott wrote: If small form factor, *LOWEST* power factor (i.e. fanless) and accelerated crypto are of any importance, consider http://www.logicsupply.com/ Those are interesting, but the prices approach those of a macmini. -Lars
Re: openbsd router hardware
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/24/07 5:55 AM, bofh wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 8:45 AM, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott wrote: If small form factor, *LOWEST* power factor (i.e. fanless) and accelerated crypto are of any importance, consider http://www.logicsupply.com/ Those are interesting, but the prices approach those of a macmini. Don't know why via c7 boards are so expensive. But the recent walmart PC is quite cheap, only $60: http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/08/via-offers-a-cheapo-gpc-dev-kit-motherboar d/ Is anyone aware of a beast that has (a) at least three, preferably 4 x 1000Base-T and (b) a smallish (Nexcom/Soekris) form factor? I've been looking, and it seems like most mobos/embedded systems in this area have 1-3 100Base-T interfaces, probably for cost-of-goods reasons. thanks dn iD8DBQFHb9ByyPxGVjntI4IRAjL8AJ9OgvJ8oqVNB5muAICpJsf1EKRgigCeKoSK nrh4uDnjZSzTgMVr03+EIPM= =M/ht -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: openbsd router hardware
On 2007/12/24 07:29, David Newman wrote: Is anyone aware of a beast that has (a) at least three, preferably 4 x 1000Base-T and (b) a smallish (Nexcom/Soekris) form factor? I've been looking, and it seems like most mobos/embedded systems in this area have 1-3 100Base-T interfaces, probably for cost-of-goods reasons. Wim has some liantec boxes like that, liantec.kd85.com Routerboard make a cheap quad gigabit PCI card that should work in a 5501. Or look through linitx.com, ipc2u.com and other places where you should find other options.
