Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax [FIXED]

2019-01-22 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 01:11:44AM +0100, Eric Elena wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:08:02 +0100 Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > I may sound a bit harsh, but starting a thread with "this is my last try
> > or I'll switch" (as if it actually matters) right before telling someone
> > who wants to help you that you actually tried _nothing_ then blaming the
> > code improvements for a use-case that could have never worked because it
> > not only uses the wrong _documented_ mechanism but also because the code
> > to make your use-case work has never existed, kinds of irritates me.
> > 
> > I don't get royalties on smtpd install, please install whatever software
> > fits your use case, this is how proper engineering works.
> 
> First of all thank you Gilles (and all the others who contributed to
> this project) for your amazing work on OpenSMTPD!
> 
> That said, there is a kind of sender rewriting mechanism in OpenSMTP.
> Well, it works for me (tm) I'm not saying it's perfect, it might be an
> overkill but at least it does what I want it to do. The conf is
> included below (only the part for rewriting the sender
> address):
>
> [...]
>
> When a mail is received (listen on all):
> - check if it is rejected
> - if not, if the email if for toto@my.domain, forward it to the very
> same OpenSMTP daemon on port 10030 using the authenticated user foo and
> using masq@my.domain as the MAIL-FROM in the SMTP session (enveloppe)
> - when an email is received on port 10030, tag it with the label MASQ.
> The authenticated user is allowed to send an email as the user
> masq@my.domain. The keyword masquerade modifies the From header (the
> message itself) to match the address given in the SMTP session
> - at that point, the sender address is rewritten both in the SMTP
> session and the headers
> - if the email is for toto@my.domain and is tagged with the label MASQ,
> the virtual user address is expanded to the real email address
> - continue like a normal message
> 
> There is probably room for improvement but I hope this helps.
> 

indeed, a bit overkill and now that we have removed the blockers we must
come up with a simpler way to achieve that...

but what you did, that's smart :-)


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Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax [FIXED]

2019-01-22 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 01:04:16PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Also, this is a recipient translation mechanism, similar to aliases, and
> > not a sender rewriting mechanism which we do not have at this point.
> > [...]
> > virtual _now_ only works on recipients, not senders ?
> > the virtual code hasn't changed, it works the way it always did.
> > 
> > there is no way it could ever do what you're describing or attempting to
> > do given that it doesn't operate at all anywhere near the message. there
> > is no way it has ever parsed:
> 
> This is all very surprising to hear.  The existing system works (somehow).
> So I am apparently misunderstanding what is happening, because with the
> configuration as shown, telling the various broken email senders to use that
> box as their mailhost _somehow_ fixes the bogus From: headers and envelopes.
> 

the entire virtual expansion happens between the client sending RCPT TO,
and the server responding Ok to that RCPT TO. virtual does not know of a
sender, never, and it is done before the message is actually received so
it doesn't know headers, which is why i'm 100% confident there isn't one
chance it could ever do what you describe.


> Oh, this just occurred to me as I'm writing:  I really hope I didn't switch
> to a different MTA on that system years ago, and then just forgot to check
> which MTA was actually running.  If that's the case, I'm not going to bother
> posting an update, because I'll be busy banging my head on the wall and then
> hiding in shame.
> 

that is a more likely possibility.


> > > I'm not convinced the new smtpd.conf grammar improves anything at
> > > all, but I assume it must help someone or it wouldn't have
> > > changed... but I believe my use case got thrown out with the
> > > bathwater, so to speak.  Oh, well.  :-(
> > This is bullshit.
> > The grammar doesn't reduce the functional scope, it can only expand it.
> 
> I'm taking your word for it - you will know far better than I do!
> 
> 
> > What you are describing has never existed in smtpd, there's never been
> > code to translate sender addresses and there's a good reason for that:
> 
> Good reasons aside, I still need to accommodate other vendor's broken mail
> implementations, because I can't fix them.  I know of multiple reasons
> source rewriting is a bad idea, in general, but I get paid to make stuff
> work, not just say that it's broken.
> 

oh, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying there's a good reason not to have
this rewriting, what i was saying is that there was a good reason why it
was not doable before the grammar change.

it is a useful feature which is part of my todo and which i will work on
as time allows.


> > it not considered doable before the grammar change...
> > But sure, blame it on the grammar.
> 
> I believed that the grammar change had rendered my use case impossible
> because  was now limited to local delivery methods.  Clearly I was
> wrong... and not even in the way I thought I might be wrong.
> 

yes, that's true.

using 'virtual' on relay rules didn't transform anything whatsoever, the
code had an explicit check to not enter the transformation lookups if we
were in a relay rule.

the new grammar just made it clear that what you were trying to do could
not work rather than accepting the criteria and disregarding it.


> > I may sound a bit harsh, but starting a thread with "this is my last try
> > or I'll switch" (as if it actually matters)
> 
> My apologies - that was meant to sound more like "I have a plan B so if this
> isn't possible, that's OK but I've wasted so much time on this I'm kinda
> running out of time, please tell me if I should just stop now and switch".
> I know *exactly* how much OpenBSD devs care if I use their code or not!  I
> do not want to be "that asshole", although it seems I've succeeded again -
> sorry.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to reply.  Now I'm going to go check that mail
> server a 7,000,000th time, this time to see what MTA is actually *running*,
> not just *configured*.  I'm not sure whether I want it to be such a blatant
> mistake on my part or not... if yes, this all makes sense but I'm an idiot,
> whereas if no, then WTF, how is it working at all?
> 
> FWIW: I am much happier with OpenSMTPd than with other MTAs because of its
> forward-declarative configuration syntax.  Thank you for your work on
> bringing a modern, lean, secure(-er) MTA into existence.
> 

np ;-)



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Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax [FIXED]

2019-01-21 Thread Adam Thompson

On 2019-01-21 04:08, Gilles Chehade wrote:

In this test case, my translations map had:

What is a translation map ?
There is no such thing in OpenSMTPD (as of today).


A virtual map that happened to be called .



You're feeding the virtual table with invalid values.


Apparently, yes.


Also, this is a recipient translation mechanism, similar to aliases, 
and

not a sender rewriting mechanism which we do not have at this point.
[...]
virtual _now_ only works on recipients, not senders ?
the virtual code hasn't changed, it works the way it always did.

there is no way it could ever do what you're describing or attempting 
to
do given that it doesn't operate at all anywhere near the message. 
there

is no way it has ever parsed:


This is all very surprising to hear.  The existing system works 
(somehow).  So I am apparently misunderstanding what is happening, 
because with the configuration as shown, telling the various broken 
email senders to use that box as their mailhost _somehow_ fixes the 
bogus From: headers and envelopes.


Oh, this just occurred to me as I'm writing:  I really hope I didn't 
switch to a different MTA on that system years ago, and then just forgot 
to check which MTA was actually running.  If that's the case, I'm not 
going to bother posting an update, because I'll be busy banging my head 
on the wall and then hiding in shame.



I'm not convinced the new smtpd.conf grammar improves anything at all, 
but I assume it must help someone or it wouldn't have changed... but I 
believe my use case got thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak.  
Oh, well.  :-(

This is bullshit.
The grammar doesn't reduce the functional scope, it can only expand it.


I'm taking your word for it - you will know far better than I do!



What you are describing has never existed in smtpd, there's never been
code to translate sender addresses and there's a good reason for that:


Good reasons aside, I still need to accommodate other vendor's broken 
mail implementations, because I can't fix them.  I know of multiple 
reasons source rewriting is a bad idea, in general, but I get paid to 
make stuff work, not just say that it's broken.




it not considered doable before the grammar change...
But sure, blame it on the grammar.


I believed that the grammar change had rendered my use case impossible 
because  was now limited to local delivery methods.  Clearly I 
was wrong... and not even in the way I thought I might be wrong.



I may sound a bit harsh, but starting a thread with "this is my last 
try

or I'll switch" (as if it actually matters)


My apologies - that was meant to sound more like "I have a plan B so if 
this isn't possible, that's OK but I've wasted so much time on this I'm 
kinda running out of time, please tell me if I should just stop now and 
switch".  I know *exactly* how much OpenBSD devs care if I use their 
code or not!  I do not want to be "that asshole", although it seems I've 
succeeded again - sorry.


Thank you for taking the time to reply.  Now I'm going to go check that 
mail server a 7,000,000th time, this time to see what MTA is actually 
*running*, not just *configured*.  I'm not sure whether I want it to be 
such a blatant mistake on my part or not... if yes, this all makes sense 
but I'm an idiot, whereas if no, then WTF, how is it working at all?


FWIW: I am much happier with OpenSMTPd than with other MTAs because of 
its forward-declarative configuration syntax.  Thank you for your work 
on bringing a modern, lean, secure(-er) MTA into existence.


-Adam

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Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax [FIXED]

2019-01-21 Thread Gilles Chehade
sorry, I obviously f-up my last mail, this one is fixed ;-)


On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 04:14:05PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote:
> As it turns out, no, that doesn't work.
> Trying to fix up broken sender mail domain-parts only simply gets me a "5.2.4 
> Mailing list expansion problem" error, with no debug output to suggest why.
> 
> In this test case, my translations map had:
> 
>   @bad.athompso.net @good.athompso.net
> 

What is a translation map ?

There is no such thing in OpenSMTPD (as of today).


> in it.  Obviously, this is a test setup :).
> Smtpd.conf itself consisted of:
> 
>   listen on all received-auth
>   smtp max-message-size 100M
>   table translations file:/etc/mail/translations  # ORIG->NEW 
> mappings
>   table allowed-hosts file:/etc/mail/allowed-hosts# Who can 
> connect?  (bare IP addresses or CIDR subnets)
>   action translate lmtp "/var/run/lmtp.sock" virtual
> # 1st pass on allowed rewrite mail
>   action forward forward-only 
> # and now it's not our problem anymore
>   match for any from local action forward # 2nd pass for 
> reinjected mail, this time just forward it
>   match for any from src  action translate # inbound mail 
> - hand it to LMTP, translating as we go
>
>


from table(5):

 Aliasing tables
 
 Aliasing tables are mappings that associate a recipient to one or many
 destinations.  They can be used in two contexts: primary domain aliases
 and virtual domain mapping.
 
 [...]
 
 In a virtual domain context, the key is either a user part, a full email
 address or a catch all, following selection rules described in
 smtpd.conf(5), and the value is one or many recipients as described in
 aliases(5):

   user1   otheruser
   us...@example.org   otheruser1,otheruser2
   @example.orgotheru...@example.com
   @   catch...@example.com


You're feeding the virtual table with invalid values.

Also, this is a recipient translation mechanism, similar to aliases, and
not a sender rewriting mechanism which we do not have at this point.


> A cursory glance at the source code (yikes, it's been a long time since I was 
> a programmer) suggests that virtual now only works on recipients, not 
> senders.  Which is too bad for me, as that means I'll have to switch at least 
> one box to use Postfix.
>

virtual _now_ only works on recipients, not senders ?

the virtual code hasn't changed, it works the way it always did.

there is no way it could ever do what you're describing or attempting to
do given that it doesn't operate at all anywhere near the message. there
is no way it has ever parsed:

@bad.athompso.net @good.athompso.net

and the only thing that changed is that such errors are now visible from
the session as:

5.2.4 Mailing list expansion problem

instead of an invalid recipient error like it probably did in 6.3


> I'm not convinced the new smtpd.conf grammar improves anything at all, but I 
> assume it must help someone or it wouldn't have changed... but I believe my 
> use case got thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak.  Oh, well.  :-(
>

This is bullshit.

The grammar doesn't reduce the functional scope, it can only expand it.

What you are describing has never existed in smtpd, there's never been
code to translate sender addresses and there's a good reason for that:

it not considered doable before the grammar change...

But sure, blame it on the grammar.


> (If anyone cares, the bad sender addresses are mostly alerts coming from 
> older Sun ALOMs and at least one Lexmark printer that also sends email with 
> broken From addresses.)
> 

I may sound a bit harsh, but starting a thread with "this is my last try
or I'll switch" (as if it actually matters) right before telling someone
who wants to help you that you actually tried _nothing_ then blaming the
code improvements for a use-case that could have never worked because it
not only uses the wrong _documented_ mechanism but also because the code
to make your use-case work has never existed, kinds of irritates me.

I don't get royalties on smtpd install, please install whatever software
fits your use case, this is how proper engineering works.

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Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

2019-01-21 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 04:14:05PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote:
> As it turns out, no, that doesn't work.
> Trying to fix up broken sender mail domain-parts only simply gets me a "5.2.4 
> Mailing list expansion problem" error, with no debug output to suggest why.
> 
> In this test case, my translations map had:
> 
>   @bad.athompso.net @good.athompso.net
> 

What is a translation map ?

There is no such thing in OpenSMTPD (as of today).


> in it.  Obviously, this is a test setup :).
> Smtpd.conf itself consisted of:
> 
>   listen on all received-auth
>   smtp max-message-size 100M
>   table translations file:/etc/mail/translations  # ORIG->NEW 
> mappings
>   table allowed-hosts file:/etc/mail/allowed-hosts# Who can 
> connect?  (bare IP addresses or CIDR subnets)
>   action translate lmtp "/var/run/lmtp.sock" virtual
> # 1st pass on allowed rewrite mail
>   action forward forward-only 
> # and now it's not our problem anymore
>   match for any from local action forward # 2nd pass for 
> reinjected mail, this time just forward it
>   match for any from src  action translate # inbound mail 
> - hand it to LMTP, translating as we go
>
>


from table(5):
 then tell the first people who attempts to help that yu////
 Aliasing tables
 
 Aliasing tables are mappings that associate a recipient to one or many
 destinations.  They can be used in two contexts: primary domain aliases
 and virtual domain mapping.
 
 [...]
 
 In a virtual domain context, the key is either a user part, a full email
 address or a catch all, following selection rules described in
 smtpd.conf(5), and the value is one or many recipients as described in
 aliases(5):

   user1   otheruser
   us...@example.org   otheruser1,otheruser2
   @example.orgotheru...@example.com
   @   catch...@example.com


You're feeding the virtual table with invalid values.

Also, this is a recipient translation mechanism, similar to aliases, and
not a sender rewriting mechanism which we do not have at this point.


> A cursory glance at the source code (yikes, it's been a long time since I was 
> a programmer) suggests that virtual now only works on recipients, not 
> senders.  Which is too bad for me, as that means I'll have to switch at least 
> one box to use Postfix.
>

virtual _now_ only works on recipients, not senders ?

the virtual code hasn't changed, it works the way it always did.

there is no way it could ever do what you're describing or attempting to
do given that it doesn't operate at all anywhere near the message. there
is no way it has ever parsed:

@bad.athompso.net @good.athompso.net

and the only thing that changed is that such errors are now visible from
the session as:

5.2.4 Mailing list expansion problem

instead of an invalid recipient error like it probably did in 6.3


> I'm not convinced the new smtpd.conf grammar improves anything at all, but I 
> assume it must help someone or it wouldn't have changed... but I believe my 
> use case got thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak.  Oh, well.  :-(
>

This is bullshit.

The grammar doesn't reduce the functional scope, it can only expand it.

What you are describing has never existed in smtpd, there's never been
code to translate sender addresses and there's a good reason for that:

it not considered doable before the grammar change...

But sure, blame it on the grammar.


> (If anyone cares, the bad sender addresses are mostly alerts coming from 
> older Sun ALOMs and at least one Lexmark printer that also sends email with 
> broken From addresses.)
> 


I may sound a bit harsh, but starting a thread with "this is my last try
or I'll switch"
 Aliasing tables
 
 Aliasing tables are mappings that associate a recipient to one or many
 destinations.  They can be used in two contexts: primary domain aliases
 and virtual domain mapping.
 
 [...]
 
 In a virtual domain context, the key is either a user part, a full email
 address or a catch all, following selection rules described in
 smtpd.conf(5), and the value is one or many recipients as described in
 aliases(5):

   user1   otheruser
   us...@example.org   otheruser1,otheruser2
   @example.orgotheru...@example.com
   @   catch...@example.com


You're feeding the virtual table with invalid values.

Also, this is a recipient translation mechanism, similar to aliases, and
not a sender rewriting mechanism which we do not have at this point.


> A cursory glance at the source code (yikes, it's been a long time since I was 
> a programmer) suggests that virtual now only works on recipients, not 
> senders.  Which is too bad for me, as that 

RE: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

2019-01-20 Thread Adam Thompson
I found the "-T" (trace) flag to smtpd(8), and it gives me this, which AFAICT 
confirms my suspicions:
[...]
rule #2 matched: match from src allowed-hosts for any => translate
lookup: lookup "athom...@athompso.net" as ALIAS in table 
static:translations -> 0
lookup: lookup "athompso" as ALIAS in table static:translations -> 0
lookup: lookup "@athompso.net" as ALIAS in table static:translations -> 0
lookup: lookup "@" as ALIAS in table static:translations -> 0
expand: lka_expand: no aliases for virtual
mproc: lka -> pony : 53 IMSG_SMTP_EXPAND_RCPT
expand: 0x154201b89018: clearing expand tree
imsg: pony <- lka: IMSG_SMTP_EXPAND_RCPT (len=53)
smtp: 0x1127a72e6000: >>> 524 5.2.4 Mailing list expansion problem
[...]

complete output attached below, I've changed to @old.athompso.net and 
@new.athompso.net during testing since the last email.

On the sending side, from another host (listed in ), I'm running:
swaks --to athom...@athompso.net --from athom...@old.athompso.net 
--server 
which faithfully reports the 5.2.4 error.

I'm slightly disappointed, I still like OpenSMTPd's concise configuration 
syntax.  Postfix could still rewrite source addresses last time I checked, I 
hope it's still there - I do NOT want to run sendmail, thank you very much.

-Adam



Smtpd(8) trace output including invocation:
===from here to end of message===
bhs# smtpd -d -T all -v -d
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ram" stat backend
info: OpenSMTPD 6.4.0 starting
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: init ca-tree
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: init ssl-tree
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "fs" queue backend
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: klondike -> control[63932] fd=4
setup_peer: klondike -> pony express[40666] fd=5
setup_done: ca[35575] done
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: control -> klondike[35575] fd=4
setup_peer: control -> lookup[49698] fd=5
setup_peer: control -> pony express[40666] fd=6
setup_peer: control -> queue[21502] fd=7
setup_peer: control -> scheduler[14152] fd=8
setup_done: control[63932] done
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: lookup -> control[63932] fd=4
setup_peer: lookup -> pony express[40666] fd=5
setup_peer: lookup -> queue[21502] fd=6
setup_done: lka[49698] done
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: pony express -> control[63932] fd=4
setup_peer: pony express -> klondike[35575] fd=5
setup_peer: pony express -> lookup[49698] fd=6
setup_peer: pony express -> queue[21502] fd=7
setup_done: pony[40666] done
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: queue -> control[63932] fd=4
setup_peer: queue -> pony express[40666] fd=5
setup_peer: queue -> lookup[49698] fd=6
setup_peer: queue -> scheduler[14152] fd=7
setup_done: queue[21502] done
debug: using "ramqueue" scheduler backend
debug: using "ram" stat backend
setup_peer: scheduler -> control[63932] fd=4
setup_peer: scheduler -> queue[21502] fd=5
setup_done: scheduler[14152] done
smtpd: setup done
mproc: parent -> control: enabled
mproc: parent -> lka: enabled
mproc: parent -> queue: enabled
mproc: parent -> ca: enabled
mproc: parent -> pony: enabled
debug: parent_send_config_ruleset: reloading
mproc: parent -> lka : 0 IMSG_CONF_START
mproc: parent -> lka : 0 IMSG_CONF_END
debug: parent_send_config: configuring pony process
mproc: parent -> pony : 0 IMSG_CONF_START
mproc: parent -> pony : 0 IMSG_CONF_END
debug: parent_send_config: configuring ca process
mproc: parent -> ca : 0 IMSG_CONF_START
mproc: parent -> ca : 0 IMSG_CONF_END
setup_proc: klondike done
setup_proc: control done
setup_proc: lookup done
setup_proc: pony express done
setup_proc: queue done
setup_proc: scheduler done
mproc: ca -> control: enabled
debug: bounce warning after 4h
mproc: ca -> parent: enabled
mproc: ca -> pony: enabled
mproc: ca -> pony: disabled
mproc: pony -> parent: enabled
mproc: scheduler -> control: enabled
imsg: ca <- parent: IMSG_CONF_START (len=0)
mproc: lka -> parent: enabled
mproc: pony -> queue: enabled
mproc: scheduler -> queue: enabled
scheduler: getting batch: mask=0x3f, count=10
debug: /--- ramqueue: scheduler_ram_batch()
debug: \---
scheduler: got r=0, delay=-1, count=10
scheduler: sleeping
imsg: 

RE: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

2019-01-20 Thread Adam Thompson
As it turns out, no, that doesn't work.
Trying to fix up broken sender mail domain-parts only simply gets me a "5.2.4 
Mailing list expansion problem" error, with no debug output to suggest why.

In this test case, my translations map had:

@bad.athompso.net @good.athompso.net

in it.  Obviously, this is a test setup :).
Smtpd.conf itself consisted of:

listen on all received-auth
smtp max-message-size 100M
table translations file:/etc/mail/translations  # ORIG->NEW 
mappings
table allowed-hosts file:/etc/mail/allowed-hosts# Who can 
connect?  (bare IP addresses or CIDR subnets)
action translate lmtp "/var/run/lmtp.sock" virtual
# 1st pass on allowed rewrite mail
action forward forward-only 
# and now it's not our problem anymore
match for any from local action forward # 2nd pass for 
reinjected mail, this time just forward it
match for any from src  action translate # inbound mail 
- hand it to LMTP, translating as we go

A cursory glance at the source code (yikes, it's been a long time since I was a 
programmer) suggests that virtual now only works on recipients, not senders.  
Which is too bad for me, as that means I'll have to switch at least one box to 
use Postfix.

I'm not convinced the new smtpd.conf grammar improves anything at all, but I 
assume it must help someone or it wouldn't have changed... but I believe my use 
case got thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak.  Oh, well.  :-(

(If anyone cares, the bad sender addresses are mostly alerts coming from older 
Sun ALOMs and at least one Lexmark printer that also sends email with broken 
From addresses.)

-Adam

 
-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org  On Behalf Of Adam Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:26 AM
To: 'Edgar Pettijohn' ; m...@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

As I said, I haven't tried anything yet as I don't want to break a working 
system, and I don't have a good way to test this in parallel right now. 

The manpage says "The local delivery methods support additional options: [...] 
virtual" without specifying which delivery methods are "local".  My assumption 
was that only "mbox" and "mda" were local, as lmtp can, and often does, point 
to another server.

Some brief experiments with a VM only got me syntax errors, so I didn't pursue 
that very thoroughly before asking for clarification.

-Adam

-Original Message-
From: Edgar Pettijohn 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:12 AM
To: Adam Thompson ; m...@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: smtpd - help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

It would be helpful if you show what you have tried.

Should be as simple as:

action "relay-01" lmtp /var/run/lmtp.sock virtual 

match from src  action "relay-01"

Edgar
On Jan 16, 2019 7:37 AM, Adam Thompson  wrote:
>
> [Cross-posting here before I give up and switch to Postfix  -Adam]
>
>
> I have an old instance that uses smtpd's virtual  to rewrite *sender* 
> addresses.
> Reading the 6.4-STABLE version of the smtpd.conf(5) manpage, I can't see how 
> to accomplish my goal any more - it looks impossible.
>
> I don't want to upgrade a working mail relay server to something that might 
> be broken, so I'm seeking assistance first.
>
> The purpose of this system is purely to relay mail from internal, 
> semi-broken-ish systems out to our Office365 tenant, but I need to clean up 
> bogus MAIL FROM / "From:" headers first, lest they be flagged as spam.
>
> In general, I think I'm asking how to use virtual  with the "relay" 
> action in the new syntax - the manual tells me this is impossible!?
>
> Thanks,
> -Adam
>
>
> Old smtpd.conf:
>
> ===start===
> listen on 0.0.0.0
> listen on ::
> table aliases db:/etc/opensmtpd/aliases.db table vmap 
> db:/etc/opensmtpd/vmap.db table localnets { 192.168.10.0/24, 
> 192.168.100.0/24, 192.168.157.0/24, 192.168.158.0/24,
> 192.168.101.0/24, 10.158.0.0/16 } accept from local 
> for anyrelay via 
> smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com hostname remote.XXX.ca 
> accept from source 192.168.158.63 for domain 192.168.158.63 virtual 
>  deliver to lmtp localhost:25 accept from source 192.168.100.63 
> for domain 192.168.100.63 virtual  deliver to lmtp localhost:25
> accept from source 192.168.158.63 for anyrelay via 
> smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com as sys...@xxx.ca hostname 
> remote.XXX.ca accept from source 192.168.100.63 for any
> relay via smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com as sys...@xxx.ca 
> hostname remote.XXX.ca accept from source for any  

help needed tranlsating to new virtual map syntax

2019-01-10 Thread Adam Thompson
I have an old instance that uses virtual  to rewrite *sender* 
addresses.
Reading the 6.4-STABLE version of the smtpd.conf(5) manpage, I can't see 
how to accomplish my goal any more - it looks impossible.


I don't want to upgrade a working mail relay server to something that 
might be broken, so I'm seeking assistance first.


THe purpose of this system is purely to relay mail from internal, 
semi-broken-ish systems out to our Office365 tenant, but I need to clean 
up bogus MAIL FROM / "From:" headers first, lest they be flagged as 
spam.


In general, I think I'm asking how to use virtual  with the "relay" 
action in the new syntax - the manual tells me this is impossible!?


Thanks,
-Adam


Old smtpd.conf:

===start===
listen on 0.0.0.0
listen on ::
table aliases db:/etc/opensmtpd/aliases.db
table vmap db:/etc/opensmtpd/vmap.db
table localnets { 192.168.10.0/24, 192.168.100.0/24, 192.168.157.0/24, 
192.168.158.0/24, 192.168.101.0/24, 10.158.0.0/16 }
accept from local for anyrelay via 
smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com hostname remote.XXX.ca
accept from source 192.168.158.63 for domain 192.168.158.63 virtual 
 deliver to lmtp localhost:25
accept from source 192.168.100.63 for domain 192.168.100.63 virtual 
 deliver to lmtp localhost:25
accept from source 192.168.158.63 for anyrelay via 
smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com as sys...@xxx.ca hostname 
remote.XXX.ca
accept from source 192.168.100.63 for anyrelay via 
smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com as sys...@xxx.ca hostname 
remote.XXX.ca
accept from source for anyrelay via 
smtp://XXX-ca.mail.protection.outlook.com hostname remote.XXX.ca

===end===

old vmap:
===start===
ilom-alert@192.168.100.63:  sys...@xxx.ca
sys...@xxx.ca:   sys...@xxx.ca
sys...@ad.xxx.ca: sys...@xxx.ca
root@XXX.local: sys...@xxx.ca
===end===


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