Re: [Mjpeg-users] Good intermediate format to use

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Chant
On Sunday 18 January 2009, Bernhard Praschinger wrote:
 Hallo

 Peter Chant wrote:
  Any suggestions of a video file format to use whilst undergoing the
  editing process after having passed video through mjpegtools?  I know a
  raw format is ideal, but I'm not looking at broadcast quality source
  material so something that does compresses a little with  a small to
  moderate amount of compression would be good.  I'm wanting to keep video
  and sound together.

 If you only work with mjpeg files and do simple cut/edit action. You can
 use the editlist files.

Yes, I have used glav to cut the wanted sections out of the orignal captured 
video.


   mjpeg stuff |mpeg2enc -f 8 -4 2 -2 1 -F 3 -q 8 -o video/$1.m1v
 
  I've then either passed this to devedee or edited in kdenlive and passed
  to devedee, after multiplexing the soundtrack back onto the file.

  From what I have seen from the kdenlive website. The format where you
 have not that much compression seems to be mov as container with DV
 compression. The mjpegtools can read that format. And use that file when
 you are done with editing for encoding with the mjpegtools.


Can it write it?  I'm wondering what is best used to feed video from 
mjpegtools to kdenlive?  Basically I have put mjpeg tools at the beginning of 
the process rather than at the end to tidy things.  Basically glav seems to 
be great for creating simple quick and dirty edit lists!


  Now, I thought this would be the right format for DVD but devede
  re-encodes. When editing with kdenlive it always re-encode the stream
  anyway (obvious if you think about it).  So perhaps an exactly DVD
  compatible format is unecessary.  What format do people suggest?

 I have a very simple toolchain. I record with a Zoran based card (lavrec
 only), or with a ADVC-100 and kino. The third source are transport
 streams using ProjectX. Than I do just simple cutting with glav/lavplay,
 and encode the files afterwards with the mjpegtools.


It's the authoring to DVD stage.  I think I've found the option, there is a 
tickbox buried away in the devede menus to tell the program that the input 
file is already in a dvd friendly format.   Bit of a nuisance that I can't do 
it globally as I have about twenty files on the DVD!

My overall concern was that I was generating unnecessary decoding and encoding 
processes in my workflow.  Given the source material I suspect its not 
noticable anyway, but it would be nice to not add too much loss in the 
editing process.  Actually the test disk looked OK on screen.

 You can raise the quality factor a little to 3 or maybe even 2. mpeg is
 a compression where you loose information, and have artefacts.


Yes, I managed a little improvement.  To some extent it may just be that I 
don't look at other people's credits at close range on a PC monitor, 
especially frame by frame, so perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much from the 
process!  Credits on the test disk were a bit rough, need to burn a new disk 
and have another look.

Thanks,

Pete

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Re: [Mjpeg-users] Problems running lavrec

2007-12-23 Thread Peter Chant
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Bernhard Praschinger wrote:

  From my guess you use a bttv based card ?
 If you use a bttv based card, you need to use a command like that:
 lavrec -f a -i p -g 352x288 -q 80 -R l --software-encoding test.avi


lavrec -f a  -g 720x576 -s -q 80 -U -r 44100 -R l --software-encoding raw.avi

Works, but with stuttering audio.  Audio is fine if I either drop the 
resolution, go mono or reduce the sampling rate to 22000.

 streamer can also create mjpeg encoded AVI's.


Yes, but I am having trouble with that - it seems to use more cpu than lavrec 
and just give up at some point.  Think I also had audio sync problems - just 
having another go to confirm.

 streamer -t 180:00 -r 25 -s 720x576 -o raw.avi -f mjpeg -F stereo

CPU usage it a little high at around 85% - on a 2.5GHz athalon.

Either solution would work well for me if I can caputure to something that 
uses a bit less disk space than raw.  I can capute raw fine - its just that 
the file sizes are a bit too large for comfort.

I'm wondering if I got something like this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=318489

whether I could use the built in hardware encoder.  My existing card is 
saa7134 based.  Not sure if hardware encoding can be done with that card.

Pete




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[Mjpeg-users] Problems running lavrec

2007-12-22 Thread Peter Chant
Dear All,

I'm having trouble running lavrec, copy of the script I am using is below:

#!/bin/sh

v4lctl setinput Composite2
v4lctl contrast 50
v4lctl bright 100
#
export LAV_VIDEO_DEV=/dev/v4l/video0
export LAV_AUDIO_DEV=/dev/sound/dsp
export LAV_MIXER_DEV=/dev/sound/mixer

#lavrec -f a -g 720x576  --stereo -R m raw.avi

lavrec --format=a --input=p --quality=80 --decimation=2 raw.avi

Unfortunately it does not work - the output I get is:

++ WARN: [lavrec] Unable to set negative priority for audio thread.
++ WARN: [lavrec] Pthread Real-time scheduling for audio thread could not be 
enabled.
**ERROR: [lavrec] Error getting video parameters: Invalid argument
**ERROR: [lavrec] Something went wrong while setting up the card

Any ideas?  Just to note for reference, streamer from xawtv seems to work, so 
I would not think it was a v4l issue.  Albeit I'm having issues that it uses 
far too much disk space when saving to raw video and I'm having issues when 
it saves to a compressed format with it maxing the CPU and eventually 
failing.

Suggestions appreciated.

Pete

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Re: [Mjpeg-users] Problems running lavrec

2007-12-22 Thread Peter Chant
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Bernhard Praschinger wrote:

  From my guess you use a bttv based card ?
 If you use a bttv based card, you need to use a command like that:
 lavrec -f a -i p -g 352x288 -q 80 -R l --software-encoding test.avi


Worked a treat.  Tried it with 720x576 as well - worked fine except audio lost 
sync.  Will try running it as root - as it complained about not being able to 
set a negative nice level.

 The important things for a bttv card are the -g and --software-encoding
 options. You might encounter problems with the audio, for testing
 purposes you can disable it with -a 0.
 The -i option works different on a bttv based card. -i p means the 1st
 Bt8x8 input. Take a look at the lavrec for more info.

 streamer can also create mjpeg encoded AVI's.


Yes, it had problems keeping up though.  I used v4lctl to set the input, I had 
trouble with the -i options.

 auf hoffentlich bald,

 Berni the Chaos of Woodquarter

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