Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
Hi Florin, > It difficult to tell which way the market will go. > However, the vast majority of the newer DVD players will happily play > both formats, even when they only advertise one of them. Strange, isn't? Not really. Almost all DVD Players now use standard ATAPI drives plus one of a few Chipsets with (usually) nothing more than power-on-logo and menus tweaked from reference Firmware delivered by the Chipset vendor. Whether the or a 'manufacturer' (who really only designs the case, or even just makets) 'supports' a standard is mainly a matter of which industry grouping they're supposedly part of. I'd like to say it is a question of which standards they validate but nowadays that seems to be the customers job. I say: 'hurray for China and Taiwan'. Those guys don't give a flying cuss about the lame politics of the big brands they just care about price (often a bit too much about this) and delivering maximum functionality to put on the side of the Box. Hence region-free DVD's that play anything under the Sun (and then some). Competition, when it really exists, is a wondeful thing... cheers, Andrew --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 23:59, Michael Hanke wrote: > Having a look at the 'burnable' DVD formats I found out that there are > essentially two versions: DVD+R and DVD-R. Since the possibility to play the > records on a hardware DVD player is the ultimate goal, my question is: Which > of these formats is best suited for archiving purposes? That means, which of > these formats will survive on standard DVD players at least for the next 20 > years and will have the broadest acceptance? A re-coding or re-burning is a > very time-comsuming process. It difficult to tell which way the market will go. However, the vast majority of the newer DVD players will happily play both formats, even when they only advertise one of them. Strange, isn't? On the side of the old-ish players, DVD-R has slightly bigger chances to play without problems. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
> I am not sure what format DVD-R or DVD+R will be the most popular in the future, > but I use only DVD+R and DVD+RW. They both use UDF filesystem (I would like to > see Linux really hop on the UDF bandwagon and complete development of writable > UDF for Linux). Formatting a DVD+RW takes only 1 or 2 minutes (what happened > with the formatting of CD+RW?!? that used to take hours). The price on DVD+R is > coming down so the prices between DVD-R and DVD+R are becoming closer. Ted > Having a look at the 'burnable' DVD formats I found out that there are > essentially two versions: DVD+R and DVD-R. Since the possibility to play the > records on a hardware DVD player is the ultimate goal, my question is: Which > of these formats is best suited for archiving purposes? That means, which of > these formats will survive on standard DVD players at least for the next 20 > years and will have the broadest acceptance? A re-coding or re-burning is a > very time-comsuming process. -- Ted Huntington Programmer Analyst I Main Library University of California, Irvine PO Box 19557 Irvine, CA 92623-9557 emesgs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://business.lib.uci.edu/webpages/ted.htm 8:00a-12:00p Business Office (949) 824-8926 1:00p-5:00p Multimedia Resource Center (949) 824-1674 "Stop violence, teach science." --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
Hallo > I have a question which is more related to DVD burning. So I apologize if this > is the wrong place to ask. I hope that you can give some references where to > obtain the informations I am interested in. The answers from dvdrhelp were > not really satisfactory. You should also find some intteresting answers about that topic in the mjpeg-users mailinglist archive. > Having a look at the 'burnable' DVD formats I found out that there are > essentially two versions: DVD+R and DVD-R. Since the possibility to play the > records on a hardware DVD player is the ultimate goal, my question is: Which > of these formats is best suited for archiving purposes? That means, which of > these formats will survive on standard DVD players at least for the next 20 > years and will have the broadest acceptance? A re-coding or re-burning is a > very time-comsuming process. If you are unsure just take a a DVD writer that can burn both the + and - format. I never had problems with DVD+RW or DVD-R. Except one Grundig DVD player that didn't like DVD+RW, but that player also did not like VCD/SVCD. I had more problems with DVD drives in the PC that didn't like the DVD+RW :-/ auf hoffentlich bald, Berni the Chaos of Woodquarter Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gz/bernhard --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
Hi, On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11.47, Maarten de Boer wrote: > hello michael, > > interesting post. > > > according to the DVD standard. My hardware player was kind enough to play > > the resulting mpeg2 stream burned as an SVCD. This is the picture quality > > I want to have! > > could you share your settings with us? > I must admit that I was very surprised about my player. What I did was rather straightforward (mjpeg-tools 1.6.1) - Take an mjpeg-file recorded at 704x576 solution (PAL obviously) - pipe it through y4mscaler (-O preset=DVD) in order get rid of the borders - encode it using mpeg2enc -f 8 --reduce-hf - mplex -f 8 - Burning with k3b as an SVCD. If it's not advertisong: The player is a Panasonic RV32. Michael --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
Re: [Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
hello michael, interesting post. > according to the DVD standard. My hardware player was kind enough to play the > resulting mpeg2 stream burned as an SVCD. This is the picture quality I want > to have! could you share your settings with us? thanks. maarten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
[Mjpeg-users] DVD plus or minus?
Hallo! I have a question which is more related to DVD burning. So I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask. I hope that you can give some references where to obtain the informations I am interested in. The answers from dvdrhelp were not really satisfactory. I've prepared a number of VCD/SVCDs now from Video8/Hi-material. The results were acceptable but not convincing. Therefore I tried to encode some takes according to the DVD standard. My hardware player was kind enough to play the resulting mpeg2 stream burned as an SVCD. This is the picture quality I want to have! Having a look at the 'burnable' DVD formats I found out that there are essentially two versions: DVD+R and DVD-R. Since the possibility to play the records on a hardware DVD player is the ultimate goal, my question is: Which of these formats is best suited for archiving purposes? That means, which of these formats will survive on standard DVD players at least for the next 20 years and will have the broadest acceptance? A re-coding or re-burning is a very time-comsuming process. Thank you for your patience. Michael --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users
