[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-12 Thread troels knak-nielsen

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In Opera 9.50 Beta 2 they added support for getBoundingClientRect, so
> then the test won't break anymore (taking another code path inside
> MochKit.Style.getElementPosition actually). Would that be ok with you?

A little late to reply, but .. I think it's fair to expect Opera users
to have the latest version installed. 9.5 may still be beta, but not
for long. It would be nice to get some tests on mobile browsers
though. Anyone?

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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread Bob Ippolito

Let's do it :) I'm out of town (in NYC instead of SF) this week but
that means I have a few more cycles than usual to spend on open
source.

-bob

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is a long email in the series "why don't we release 1.4
> already?". But at least I tried to shorten down the opinion pieces.
>
> #1. Importance of a release
>
> Personally I think it is important that we do a release of version
> 1.4. Other projects (e.g. TurboGears) tend to depend on stable
> releases. And it is good advertising for the project to have regular
> releases.
>
> I know lots of people here use the svn version and are happy with
> that. But I find the value of a proper MochiKit 1.4 release
> sufficiently large to volunteer as a maintainer for the stable
> version.
>
> #2. Now rather than later
>
> I also think we are long overdue with a 1.4 release. As the stars are
> currently aligned in an optimal constellation, I think now is the
> perfect time for a release. Just today we've finally fixed the last
> reported bug in MochiKit 1.4 (but for some issues I'll close as
> worksforme/wontfix unless I get feedback).
>
> You can find the current bug list here -- http://trac.mochikit.com/report/3
>
> #3. Feature freeze
>
> I know several people want to push bits into MochiKit at the moment
> (myself included). But new features invariably mean new bugs. And we
> currently have a stable bug-fixed version that has not undergone much
> change for about a year.
>
> I'd like us to push that version out the door with the 1.4 label
> attached before doing surgery in MochiKit.Selector, adding widgets,
> new string formatting, or other stuff. Those of us that use svn trunk
> will still be able to get all that stuff in a few weeks once the
> release has been tagged and development on 1.5 begins.
>
> Personally I'd suggest a two week freeze before the release, but that
> is a matter of taste.
>
> #4. Testing, testing, testing
>
> In order find any remaining issues in version 1.4, I'd like to
> encourage everyone to test their apps/websites with the latest svn
> trunk version of MochiKit. Issues can be reported either directly on
> trac.mochikit.com or on this mailing list. I'll try to address each
> and every one in a timely manner.
>
> You can also contribute by running the test suite in your favorite
> browser environments. Below is a link and the results as of today.
>
> http://svn.mochikit.com/mochikit/trunk/tests/index.html
>
> Linux - Firefox 3 - OK
>
> Mac - Firefox 3 - OK
> Mac - Safari 3 - OK
> Mac - Opera 9.6 - OK
> Mac - IE 6 (via CrossOver) - OK
>
> Windows - IE 7 - OK
> Windows - Firefox 3/Windows - OK
> Windows - Safari 3 - OK
> Windows - Chrome Build 2200 - OK
>
> Opinions? What does Bob think?
>
> Cheers,
>
> /Per
>
> PS. I just discovered that Google Groups silently dropped all my
> emails that used another sender address, so I'm currently resending
> all my recent postings. Hence the sudden email bombing...
>
> >
>

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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread Arnar Birgisson

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 17:07, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opera is a small player, but perhaps their mobile browsers are
> interesting to test MochiKit on?

Right, speaking of mobile browser, all tests pass on Mobile Safari on
my iPod Touch 2G running firmware 2.1.1

cheers,
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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread Per Cederberg

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:26 PM, troels knak-nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  9.50 Alpha .. 8 failures in test_MochiKit-Style.html
>not ok - initial x position: got 444, expected 400
>not ok - initial y position: got 111, expected 100
>not ok - updated x position: got 544, expected 500
>not ok - updated y position: got 211, expected 200
>not ok - updated x position (using relativeTo parameter): got 444,
> expected 400
>not ok - updated y position (using relativeTo parameter): got 111,
> expected 100
>not ok - updated only x position: got 344, expected 300
>not ok - not updated y position: got 211, expected 200

In Opera 9.50 Beta 2 they added support for getBoundingClientRect, so
then the test won't break anymore (taking another code path inside
MochKit.Style.getElementPosition actually). Would that be ok with you?

Opera is a small player, but perhaps their mobile browsers are
interesting to test MochiKit on?

Cheers,

/Per

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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread Christoph Zwerschke

I fully agree with this, actually I already wanted to post something
similar this week. This is something that TurboGears users have been
complaining about all the time. If I remember correctly, the main show
stopper for 1.4 was the visuals package. But this has been improved
quite a lot in the last months, examples and tests have been added, and
I think it is really useful and works well enough.

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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread Arnar Birgisson

Hi Per,

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 15:54, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #3. Feature freeze
>
> I know several people want to push bits into MochiKit at the moment
> (myself included). But new features invariably mean new bugs. And we
> currently have a stable bug-fixed version that has not undergone much
> change for about a year.
>
> I'd like us to push that version out the door with the 1.4 label
> attached before doing surgery in MochiKit.Selector, adding widgets,
> new string formatting, or other stuff. Those of us that use svn trunk
> will still be able to get all that stuff in a few weeks once the
> release has been tagged and development on 1.5 begins.

I have no specific desire to get the new Selector stuff in before 1.4.

> Opinions?

I agree on all points and would defend your decisions. Two weeks
feature freeze also sounds reasonable.

cheers,
Arnar

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[mochikit] Re: Preparing for a MochiKit 1.4 release

2008-10-08 Thread troels knak-nielsen

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opinions? What does Bob think?

Hooray.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Per Cederberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can also contribute by running the test suite in your favorite
> browser environments. Below is a link and the results as of today.
>
> http://svn.mochikit.com/mochikit/trunk/tests/index.html

Here's what I have within immediate reach:
Ubuntu Linux 64bit:
  Firefox 3.0.3 (64bit) .. OK
  9.50 Alpha .. 8 failures in test_MochiKit-Style.html
not ok - initial x position: got 444, expected 400
not ok - initial y position: got 111, expected 100
not ok - updated x position: got 544, expected 500
not ok - updated y position: got 211, expected 200
not ok - updated x position (using relativeTo parameter): got 444,
expected 400
not ok - updated y position (using relativeTo parameter): got 111,
expected 100
not ok - updated only x position: got 344, expected 300
not ok - not updated y position: got 211, expected 200

Windows XP 64bit:
  Opera 9.60 .. OK
  Firefox 2.0.0.14 .. OK
  Google Chrome 0.2.149.27 .. OK
  Safari 3.1.1 (525.21) .. OK
  Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13 .. OK

Windows XP 32bit:
  Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 .. OK
  Safari 3.1.2 (525.21) .. OK

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