Re: irc

[brian moseley]

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:

> I am usually on rhizomatic, and #mod_perl sounds pretty
> good to me.

there's folks on both #mod_perl and #modperl. let's drop
#mod_perl, cos the other is easier to type.

who runs rhizomatic? do they have a standard channel
registration process? can somebody in the know make that all
happen?

sweet!

Re: Searchable archives (was: [modperl site design challenge] and the winner is...)

[Stas Bekman]

Bill Moseley wrote:

> At 02:13 PM 12/24/01 +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
>>FWIW, we are having what seems to be a very productive discussion at 
>>docs-dev mailing list. Unfortunately no mail archiver seem to pick this 
>>list up, so only the mbox files are available:
>>http://perl.apache.org/mail/docs-dev/
>>
>>Is anyone up to make the searchable archives available? We have a bunch 
>>of lists that aren't browsable/searchable :(
>>http://perl.apache.org/#maillists
>>
> 
> Hi Stas,
> 
> Any reason to not use hypermail?  Do you have mbox files for all the lists
> in question?
> 
> I could setup searchable archives like this example, if you like.
> 
>http://search.apache.org/docs-dev/  (this URL is temporary!)

That would be grand! All the mailboxes are here:
http://perl.apache.org/mail/

There are two more lists that we (mod_perl people) work with and they 
have no archive:
http://httpd.apache.org/mail/test-dev/
http://httpd.apache.org/mail/test-cvs/

Thanks Bill!

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Searchable archives (was: [modperl site design challenge] and the winner is...)

[Bill Moseley]

At 02:13 PM 12/24/01 +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
>FWIW, we are having what seems to be a very productive discussion at 
>docs-dev mailing list. Unfortunately no mail archiver seem to pick this 
>list up, so only the mbox files are available:
>http://perl.apache.org/mail/docs-dev/
>
>Is anyone up to make the searchable archives available? We have a bunch 
>of lists that aren't browsable/searchable :(
>http://perl.apache.org/#maillists

Hi Stas,

Any reason to not use hypermail?  Do you have mbox files for all the lists
in question?

I could setup searchable archives like this example, if you like.

   http://search.apache.org/docs-dev/  (this URL is temporary!)



Bill Moseley
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Modperl + ASP-perl buffering problems

[Szymon Juraszczyk]

On Wed, 2001-12-26 at 21:50:49, Ged Haywood wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Szymon Juraszczyk wrote:
> 
> > I use Apache-1.3.22 + modperl-1.26 and Apache::ASP 2.29. I experience
> > problems with Apache::ASP $Response->Flush() method,
> [snip]
> > the data are still getting buffered somewhere.
> 
> Can you be sure that it isn't a browser which is doing the buffering?
> Have you monitored the tcp connection?  Try tcpdump or something?

  Actually it eventually appears to be browser problem. I must have been to
tired when I was testing it under Links (but it certainly did not work with
the oldest version of Apache::ASP, wchich did not use $| = 1 magic at all).
Now I'm doing tests in a text browser and amazingly it works! In MSIE it all
depends very subtly on the page contents.

  Sorry for false alert... :-)

Regards,
-- 
Szymon Juraszczyk, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Modperl + ASP-perl buffering problems

[Ged Haywood]

Hi there,

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Szymon Juraszczyk wrote:

> I use Apache-1.3.22 + modperl-1.26 and Apache::ASP 2.29. I experience
> problems with Apache::ASP $Response->Flush() method,
[snip]
> the data are still getting buffered somewhere.

Can you be sure that it isn't a browser which is doing the buffering?
Have you monitored the tcp connection?  Try tcpdump or something?

73,
Ged.

Re: FW: PerlEditor - Freeware or Trialware

[tfinney]

Not that anyone died and left me in charge, but the discussion of text
editors really isn't appropriate for this is list.  Anand, people have
recommended a few different editors already, please take it upon yourself
for test those tools, and find something else if they're not sufficient.

To recap for you:

Unix: emacs or, if you're not right in the head, vi.
(ok, that's a troll, so sue me)

Windows: Ultraedit is nice, EditPad is my personal favorite.

IIRC, the Mac editor of choice is bbedit, but it's been years.

Try ZDNet if you need to find more, http://www.hotfiles.com/.

Todd



On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Anand Ratnasabapathy wrote:

> Sorry ! I am on Windows NT 4.01,
> I need some thing similar to PerlBuilder
> which has only 14 days trial,
> something more ,I need...
> 
> TIA,
> Anand 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Anand Ratnasabapathy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PerlEditor - Freeware or Trialware
> 
> 
> Can any one help me with a Nice Editor for 
> working on Perl-cgi,
> Must be trial or freeware for me to test.
> 
> Any Takers,
> 
> Regds,
> Anand R
> DSM Soft
> 
> I am back to the ring
> 

Modperl + ASP-perl buffering problems

[Szymon Juraszczyk]

  Hi,

  I use Apache-1.3.22 + modperl-1.26 and Apache::ASP 2.29. I experience
problems with Apache::ASP $Response->Flush() method, which is supposed to
push already printed data to the client. Although this Flush() method calls
print() method from modperl's Apache request object, the data are still
getting buffered somewhere. The magic $| = 1 in Apache::ASP code doesn't
seem to help. The author of Apache::ASP module says it used to work with
previous versions of Apache and modperl. I even tried manually calling
rflush() method but it didn't help either.
  Are there any mechanisms in modperl code that buffer the data? How to make
Flush() method from Apache::ASP work then?

Regards,
-- 
Szymon Juraszczyk, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Surfland Computer Systems S.A.
tel. +48 71 78-02-952, http://www.ssk.com.pl/

Re: irc

[Philippe M. Chiasson]

On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 07:40:06PM +0100, Thomas Eibner wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 12:25:51PM -0800, Cure wrote:
> > On irc.dal.net, theres a #mod_perl, Nobody goes there anyomore, But we all
> > could start joining it.
> 
> Please, no more networks =) I think something like #modperl would be
> appropriate on rhizomatic, but it's not up to me.

I am usually on rhizomatic, and #mod_perl sounds pretty good to me.

> -- 
>   Thomas Eibner  DnsZone 
>   mod_pointer  
> 



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Re: FW: PerlEditor - Freeware or Trialware

[wsheldah]

Use vim, namely the "gvim" or "graphical" vim editor, which works very well
under windows. syntax highlighting, full toolbar, and all the rest. If you've
tried vim before and the two modes gave you fits, there's now an "Easy" version
that doesn't make you switch between command and insert mode; can't say I've
tried it, but it's another reason to check it out. I've also heard that vim can
actually integrate with Visual Studio, if that matters to you.  If you go to
http://www.vim.org, and look for the mirrors, you should be able to find a
precompiled Windows binary of gvim without too much trouble.

--Wes Sheldahl



"Anand Ratnasabapathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/25/2001
11:19:38 PM

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Wesley Sheldahl/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  FW: PerlEditor  - Freeware or Trialware


Sorry ! I am on Windows NT 4.01,
I need some thing similar to PerlBuilder
which has only 14 days trial,
something more ,I need...

TIA,
Anand

-Original Message-
From: Anand Ratnasabapathy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 12:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PerlEditor - Freeware or Trialware


Can any one help me with a Nice Editor for
working on Perl-cgi,
Must be trial or freeware for me to test.

Any Takers,

Regds,
Anand R
DSM Soft

I am back to the ring

Re: PerlEditor - Freeware or Trialware

[Rafiq Ismail]

On 25 Dec 2001, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > "Anand" == Anand Ratnasabapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anand> Can any one help me with a Nice Editor for 
> Anand> working on Perl-cgi,
> Anand> Must be trial or freeware for me to test.
> 
> GNU Emacs is free.
Given that you're talking about 'trial' and 'freeware' I assume this is
for Win32?  There is a version of XEmacs for Windows, which I've used and
have to admit is pretty good.  It really looks and feels like XEmacs.  
You'll also be able to learn all your fancy key-mappings and take them
straight over to Xnix boxes.  Provided that emacs is installed, that is.

My second favourite windows editor is pfe which you could probably also
search for.  No special perl-friendliness, however I've used it with
prolog and java in the past.  You can set up macros to load things
straight into a debugger or to start up a compiler, thus I don't see why
you can't pipe straight to a perl -d session?

There is also a version of vim which runs under windows, although I
haven't personally tried this out; you might want to?  VI is a standard
editor on Xnix boxes and might be a useful tool to master if you're going
to ever start working on native platforms - well not native, but UNIX
based.  I'm think it likely that the windows version may offer syntax
highlighting under perl.  You'll have to check the doccos:

http://www.tqbase.demon.co.uk/mirror/vim/binaries.html

Hope that helps?

Merry Christmas, a day belated, :)

Fiq

-- 
Rafiq Ismail

Software Engineer and Systems Administrator
http://www.codix.net


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